RFI: The 1970’s Vaudeville / Music hall / Old-timey variety show revival

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I’ve always been kind of fascinated by how many things from the 1970’s I see that seem to be related to what looks like late 19th / early 20th century stage entertainment, and yet how completely this aspect of the 1970’s has been forgotten, and isn’t part of the popular idea of 70’s culture (I’m sure it existed in other decades too, but most things I see like this seem to be from the 70’s).
It seems to have mostly taken the form of TV variety shows, right? The most basic image I can think of is of men dressed in candy striped suits, wearing skimmer hats, twirling bamboo (?) canes and doing a softshoe song and dance. Maybe there weren’t any shows strictly dedicated to replicating the old stage look, but even on the variety shows that didn’t have an “old days” theme, sometimes the regular cast members would put on that stereotypical outfit and do a song and dance routine like that (I know the Brady Bunch Variety Hour did this; I think Sonny & Cher probably did too). There was the Muppet Show, of course, although I think they quickly drifted away from the concept. Some mimes might fit into this too. I want to say Shields and Yarnell, but I think there might have been a male pair of mimes that made the old timey look their specialty. I don’t know if any of this translated over to the UK or not; was stuff like The Good Old Days anything like this? I can even think of a couple of pop songs from the 70’s in which elements of the music seem to refer to the culture I’m thinking of; for example Sweet City Woman by the Stampeders, or Gimme Dat Ding by the Pipkins (I like both of those songs, personally). You know, the sound of a jangly out-of-tune saloon piano, or of quickly strummed (rather than finger picked) banjos
Part of why I’m so interested in this idea is that the impression I get is that this kind of entertainment was the very most mainstream thing in existence, that it was watched mostly by old people and hopeless squares, that it was the flattest and dullest kind of family-safe pabulum at the time. It’s amazing to me that what seems to have been such a large phenomenon has now mostly evaporated into history because it had absolutely no edge to it at all!
It’s not that I like this stuff, really, I think it was probably mostly shit; I’m just amazed at the void that it seems to have left in people’s memories. Was it the case that even at the time no one really liked any of it, but that the people who the programs were aimed at were just the sort of no-brain Nixon-voting TV dinner eaters that would watch whatever was put in front of them that seemed to be the least offensive thing available? (I’m not trying to wallow in the cartoonish invective there, it’s just that having not been around in the 70’s that’s as fleshed out as my idea of the audience for this kind of entertainment product has been able to get.)
Was it even really a revival/resurgence at all, or was it actually just the tail-end of a tradition that had never gone away? What could be considered the end of it? When the Muppet Show went off the air? Or is there something from the last 30 years that I’m forgetting to consider?

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

argh, of course none of the paragraph indentations worked.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I meant to put something in there about how the Muppet Show was actually good, not like the rest of it!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Fear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

When I mention those pop songs with the music hall flourishes, that's not to ignore the fact that so many of the variety shows were hosted by pop music stars who mostly did music more typical to the second half of the 20th century of course. I had just been thinking specifically of anachronistic indicators and mannerisms and stuff.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: yeah, exactly!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

You know what else has aspects of this in it? Super Mario Brothers 2!

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to come back to this thread in a year and post a photo of a stillbirth dressed in little baby clothes.

"Stillborn Thread Irons: 10/26/6 - 10/26/6. '...it is not the will of you father, which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish'"

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 26 October 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Was it even really a revival/resurgence at all, or was it actually just the tail-end of a tradition that had never gone away?

It's a little of both. I remember the revival, and I recall it being part of a larger, but amorphous resurgence of early (meaning pre-WWII) American culture - much of it trying to be evocative of the 1920s.

There are the TV shows (I remember that Donnie & Marie always had some sort of 20s-era sketch/song in their show), but there's also Farrell's Ice Cream Parlor, the movie Bugsy Malone, the That's Entertainment movies, the 1971 revival of the Saturday Evening Post (which really had nothing to do with the original SEP, but was an excuse for everyone to reminisce and bother old Norman Rockwell again) and the demise of Life Magazine in 1972. Knott's Berry Farm's Roaring '20s addition. etc. etc.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

where does "the sting" and the subsequent chart re-popularity of "the entertainer" fit in?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 27 October 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

I was looking for a thread on the New Vaudeville Band. I don't have anything to say about them, but bumping for the hell of it.

What are you doing here? (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:40 (fifteen years ago)

doesn't shakey's pizza fit in here somewhere? i think back in the day old-timey vibe figured into their angle hugely

beggin' strips continuum (del), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

shakey's pizza

That the actual chain was the second thing I thought of after Shakey Mo when I read this says something...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

haha, i hears ya

beggin' strips continuum (del), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

as the time is ripe i wanna start The Last American Virgin Pizza Parlor. you'll come for the ms. pacman table game, but stay for the Bitchen Breadsticks. "Are you ready for the Breadsticks, the hot hot super special real Breadsticks?"

beggin' strips continuum (del), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

The British equivalent of Music Hall seemed to be more prevalent in the '60s, what with McCarteny, Neil Innes and NVB plus other things such as Monty Python.

What are you doing here? (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:27 (fifteen years ago)

we're slow over here. i mean, it took us a good two decades to begin to understand the magic of denny laine

beggin' strips continuum (del), Tuesday, 7 December 2010 16:31 (fifteen years ago)

Not mentioned above, but looming large in the olde-tymey revival: Tony Orlando and Dawn, who put three similar sounding songs into the US and UK Top 40, as well as hosting a TV variety show.

1973 "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree" #1 US (Gold); #1 UK; #1 AC
1973 "Say, Has Anybody Seen My Sweet Gypsy Rose" #3 US (Gold); #12 UK (1974 release); #1 AC
1974 "Who's in the Strawberry Patch with Sally" #27 US; #37 UK; #3 AC

http://www.recordsale.org/cdpix/d/dawn-dawns_new_ragtime_follies.jpg

The animal magnetism of Tim Pawlenty (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:01 (fifteen years ago)


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