How Will you feel/What will you do when Margaret Thatcher Dies?

but he'll kinda have to do that, won't he? (or whomever it is that will be PM if Labour is in charge when maggie kicks it). i mean, clinton had to make nicey-nice when nixon dropped dead (and dubya would prob. be nicey-nice if carter or clinton died under his watch).

either way, seems kinda pointless to get too angry about it -- it's part of the job!

Thatcher in hospital
Those Brits sure love their Thatcher
Lets Celebrate The 25th Anniversary Of Margaret Thatcher Coming To Power. May 03 1979
How long has Margaret Thatcher got to live?

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FWIW, I think there will be a lot of undeniably true platitudes that don't actually say anything "she had a massive influence on the country", "she was a trail-blazer" etc. And no state funeral.

Her grave will be well watered.

There will be no Princess Diana type mourning

You're wrong there. There are still huge numbers of people who consider her a hero. I'm fairly sure a venn diagram would show a large overlap between those and the Queen of Hearts mourners.

thatcher herself? i doubt i'll be much affected.

I don't think she'll get a state funeral, because I think her family will decline due to threats of people pissing on her coffin etc. And why teh fuck would she get minute's silences at sporting events?

Lex, misogyny, wtf?

PM's only get state funerals if they die when PM don't they? (I assume however Winston Churchill got a state funeral?)

Not true. Actually, I don't think any PM who died in office got one. Very few non-Royals get a state funeral. I think Thatcher will be offered one due to place in history/first woman PM etc, but it'll be declined.

and it's got absolutely nothing to do with her gender. fwiw i don't think of her as a woman - or even as particularly human. i remember an old comic adventure thing i had called "you are margaret thatcher" in which they opened her up and found she had "the old-style heart: reptillian, with cold blood". that's exactly how i think of her.

but also living where i did it was v difficult to observe badness happening that could be directly attributed to her actions

this is an interesting and admirably honest point; i mean, i grew up in the north of england, part of an extended scottish family, and my mum was a nurse ... it was difficult for me to feel anything other than spectacular and painful loathing.

(my parents, fwiw, voted for her the first time round, i think. i understand their reasons for doing so; i accepted their grovelling apologies on behalf of my generation; and i still wind them up about it at every opportunity.)

and yes, plenty of people still revere her. she has been the topic of ferocious arguments round certain in-laws' dinner table.

(hopefully it's not too busy or i'll get shy bladder or something)

They should state clearly that it's a shame when someone dies but she was a disaster for the country and her actions will never be forgiven.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ToaK00BUcJE

an earnest question.

I thought we did.

the middle classes might not be materially richer. but at least the country might just have a fucking soul left.

Considering that Clinton was getting foreign policy advice from Tricky Dick up until the moment the latter was too sick to give it, this was the least he could do.

also lex, was that politics degree in fucking martian politics or something?

I shall stop my jigging long enough to laugh at the press if I actually see a "stop the presses! People dying is not a good thing!" article in any paper.

FWIW, if she'd died in the 80s, someone else would have carried on her reign of evil. This way she gets to see the shite she's inflicted on the country and the way she's fucked everything up and she gets to read and hear people moaning about it (if she cares, which I strongly suspect she doesn't). Small comfort, I know.

The Lex has a politics degree? and thinks the Thatcher hatred would be misogynistic? oh crikey.

(yep, that's the one)

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actually, fuck thatcher's death and two-minute silences. i might just do this at the weekend anyway.

"How will you feel, what will you do
when margaret thatcher dies?"

I too did not particularly feel the impact personally, being young and middle class at the time, but I felt it all around me, I still feel it now, and I cannot forgive. Grr.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzNhLRAgEU

At around 0:59 I atually stood up and applauded the telly. For people who can't be arsed listening to some comedians talking, they are discussing the potential state funeral. It is mentioned it will cost £3 million.

Frankie Boyle: "£3 million? For £3 million they could buy everyone in Scotland a shovel and we could dig a hole so deep that we could hand her over to Satan personally"

lol

"I almost fell off my chair. Watching her struggle with her words and her memory, I couldn't believe it," she says.
"She was in her 75th year but I had always thought of her as ageless, timeless and 100% cast-iron damage-proof."
The contrast was all the more striking because she had always had a memory "like a website", she writes.

Frankie Boyle: "£3 million? For £3 million they could buy everyone in Scotland a shovel and we could dig a hole so deep that we could hand her over to Satan personally"

They need to pay that much cause they'll need to pay for all those "grieving" people.

The contrast was all the more striking because she had always had a memory "like a website", she writes.

Too bad the source code was flawed.

I really dread the media coverage and eulogies when she does go.

there will probably be a new thread. so there is no need to be alarmed or news-hungry when these ones get bumped.

What will I think? Something along the lines of: too late; the damage has already been done.

Oh I think when it does happen it will be this one that's posted on.
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Assuming she doesn't outlive ILX

why are people bumping every single thatcher thread there is all of a sudden?

I assume her death is imminent.

Has to be something to cheer the masses in these times of recession, unemployment etc.

She's in good health as far as I know.

Why does she have to leave us Dead Poolers in torment by waiting right until the end of the year. Just why.

Secret papers released after 30 years show how Labour tried to sideline opposition leader Margaret Thatcher on the anniversary of universal suffrage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7796261.stm

I don't want her to die.

Some of us dealt with this concept a long time ago.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/261295913_e0ffe73062.jpg?v=0

tbh, blair will be a bigger celebration.

But Blair will probably be cryogenically frozen and saved for the nation with the help of millions of pounds worth of Lottery money.

I don't want him to die either.

tony blair is nowhere near as hated as thatcher. No one is.

hmmm

Such a small world you inhabit. Thatcher is hated by a small fraction of the population of a small country in the huge world where people are being blown the fuck up all the time. I'm part of that band of haters but I try to keep some perspective.

well, i meant personally re: the blair thing.

Via Twitter just now: "Just saw footage on TV of miners and Scousers celebrating. Is Thatcher dead?"

Last night I found myself wondering where you could rent tap shoes from.

have you seen the youtube of that weirdo dancing on haughey's grave? strange/creepy/hilarious. might be useful as a template

I saw the thread but didn't watch the vid. Was thinking of a more dignified soft shoe shuffle I suppose, but you'll probably be limited to a 60 second slot what with the queues and all.

"charlie, you old FUCKER"

Is it a coincidence that this was revived on her birthday?

i was thinking that, but i'd imagine it was just confluence of events re scousers and miners tbh

anyway hb iron lady

^ that should rack up the sb's

Chumbawamba split up.

Still, they have an e.p. pressed and ready to ship only to advance orders: http://www.chumba.com/thatchep.php

also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcXi-VYy_Yw Pete Wylie's got a track ready too.

So, will the chart be full of 'ironic' tributes, or will they all be BANNED!!! ?

Oh balls! I was starting to think about seeing them again.

You may be OK, they are doing the 'wind-down' to the end of the year.

Hmm, looks like it's time for my first folk festival then....

Well?

we're partying hard

http://www.youngs-hire.co.uk/dresswear/white_tie_and_tails

I texted grimly fiendish "time to conga" and he hadnt heard the news but knew exactly what i meant.

Co-ordinated congas abound

How do I feel? Terrified. This lot are worse, and this is likely to galvanise them. Imagine that shit that will leap from their mouths in praise, and stick to this country's legislature for however long it takes us to not elect cunts anymore.

http://medleymag.com/upload/2013/01/Justin-Timberlake-Suit-Tie-Lyric.jpg

I feel sort of jittery and excited

How do I feel? Terrified. This lot are worse, and this is likely to galvanise them. Imagine that shit that will leap from their mouths in praise, and stick to this country's legislature for however long it takes us to not elect cunts anymore.

― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, April 8, 2013 12:10 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah

There's two years to the election, the old bag will ancient history by then

will be

https://www.facebook.com/events/650707421611923/?notif_t=plan_user_invited

Surprisingly few wrong-uns on my Facebook timeline tonight.

Fuck her and fuck her legacy and fuck the Tories and fuck New Labour.

Nick S otm - this will galvanise them, though I'm struggling to think what they'll come up with next.