10 mind-numbingly stupid quotes by howard dean - must read!!!!

More legible and intelligent than any Dubya speech too.

^^ mind-numbingly true

I don't see why the deen skreem was even a big DEAL, he was just loud. It was the dumbest reason EVER to take anyone down. I don't see why anyone thought it was foolish, at all. You should've seen how charged up folx got over singing "Tippecanoe and Tyler Too," it outscreamed Macho Man Randy Savage and Andrew W.K. combined. WHY did the people who ran "Entertainment Tongight" get to decide it was a bad political speech anyway? I am still very pissed about all this!

hahhhahhaa WAHT

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THIS, 8, is the dumb one.

I never understood why the yell became such a big deal. So he yelled. What? Is there something inherently wrong with yelling when you're excited? If so, I'm amazed we're not flooded with images of politicians and celebrities yelling at athletic events.

Eh. People who have no facts to back their arguments tend to fall back on personal attacks and the old "if I say it loud enough, it'll sound true" routine.

what a surprise that the list does not include his pre-war comments about the possible dire consequences of invading iraq.

dean's public personality post losing the primary is kind of douchebaggey though. it seems like once someone as inspiring and up-and-coming as he was gets to a certain level of noteriety, he/she suddenly gets surrounded with PR people, advisors and speechwriters that throw everything that got him/her to that point out the window and turn them into a boring douche.

i remember when he was on letterman like a year ago and the interview got to the point where they had planned on discussing the current state of the dems and dean totally bombed when he tried to deliver this joke: "well dave, i'm a doctor, and my diagnosis is that this party needs a spine transplant." timing all off, nervous gritting teeth smile... A W K W A R D.

while i'm on this tangent, EVERYONE should read the Atlantic's cover story on Hillary and Harper's cover story on Obama this month for more frightening examples of what i'm talking about here.

uh, that's exactly how he was before losing the primary too

he actually said this?!?

(also, it was the fact that the audio feed was coming directly off his mic, with none of the screaming crowd in the mix, making it sound a little like he was in a room by himself screaming into a mic)

1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after
3. Jack Ruby, who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later by coincidence

On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year. (That's almost 44 per day — every day)

A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants.' Crikey, that's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas. According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.

The average patient in Parkland's maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant. By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their immigration status or ability to pay. OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday, middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital, they do.

Parkland Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE. The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child — her previous two were also born at Parkland. Her first two deliveries were free and the Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even bother asking at this point.)

How long has this been going on? What are the long-term effects? Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly after her mother entered the U.S. illegally — now she is having her own child there as well. (That's right, she's technically a U.S. citizen.) These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition, birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car seats, bottles, diapers and formula.

Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost insurmountable.

Because these women are illegal immigrants they do not have to provide any sort of legitimate identification — no proof of income. An American citizen would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their annual income — an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the hospital must take them at their word.

My husband is a pilot for the United States Navy (yes, he fought in Iraq) and while the health care is good, we Navy wives don't get any of these perks! Car seats? Diapers? Not so much. So my question is this: Does our public medical care system treat illegal immigrants better than middle-class American citizens? Yes it does!

As I mentioned, the care I have received is perfectly adequate but it's bare bones, meat and potato medical care — not top of line.

Their (the illegals) medical care is free — simply because they are illegal immigrants? Once again, there is no way to verify their income. Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County earn less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the 'free' care is not so easy for Americans.)

There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County. So the hospital is going to sue them! Illegals get it all free! But U.S. citizens who live outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?

As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish. In this AP story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband. The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was apparently a great injustice to her.

In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.

Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost insurmountable.

^^^^ wtf on this - new mom "technically" a u.s. citizen but racist email-writing bitch is whining the care she gets isnt available to u.s. citizens

and what, it's also hard to see how the woman born at parkland in 1986 is having an "anchor baby" since she's a US citizen and therefore not "an illegal" (not bothering using an actual NOUN to describe people is such a classic rhetorical tack)

* tell press precisely how they are going to smear their opponents
* press breathlessly recites audacious, bare-knuckle plan in an article about "tactics," purporting to lay bare the machinery behind the posturing
* republicans/rove then smear their opponents in exactly the way described
* press breathlessly reports smears and democratic "response"
* repeat if desired

President Bush

those are the two i could find with googleILX.

anyways, "occasional rhetorical gracelessness" is pretty standard Dean going all the way back to the early 03 primary season. but the thing is, he never listened and learned how to not do that - thus, makes political strategists nervous because they never know when he'll accidentally make news. you know? he's never been ready for prime time..

And yes W mangles the English language constantly but that's exactly it, he does it so often you just brush it off as another Bushism & figure there's no thought behind it. Dean is plain spoken and clear for the most part, so when he says something that doesn't mean what he thinks it means, everyone goes OMG that guy's crazy.

And hell, Dean is a little crazy. Just saying. It's understandable - governor of a small state runs for President with no intentions beyond staying in the race long enough to get some air time in the debates & in the party platform for his pet issue of early childhood education.. then gets swept up in (anti)war fevor and Joe Trippi's netroots evangelizing and party-dividing rhetoric and suddenly is the Dem frontrunner with a huge organization and record fundraising and major media following his every move.

Obv he started to believe the hype and was just stubborn when he thought he was right - such as the speech declaring that Saddam's capture didn't make America safer. Well, he was right in the long run, but at the time, if the objective was to hold on to his frontrunner status, it was.. I don't know.. maybe unsayable, in strategic terms.

Don't know where the thread is, but there's an amusing web archive of The American Taliban.

My favorite: "I'm an old-fashioned woman. Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women today, we wouldn't have to vote."

8) "I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks."

I remember when he said this, and it def falls into the "poorly stated" category. He was basically saying he deserved the redneck vote in addition to all the other voting blocks, not that he was catering to racist hicks or appealing to them on that level.

What I found interesting was that during the whole pre-primary season Dean bubble Rove & his cronies went on about how they'd love to see Dean get the nomination since he'd be so easy to beat, but then after the election they admitted they'd been scared the Dems would nominate someone with the balls to take Bush out to the parking lot.