WTF is going on in the White House

this thread sure went classic in a hurry.

Can we go back to talking about butching up Hillary's campaign again yet?

and what exactly are we fighting about here? it's news that the dude's dad is gay? john doesn't want some people to put links on their blogs?

"disingenuous," adJ: adj.
1. Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating: "an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, who ... exemplified ... the most disagreeable traits of his time" (David Cannadine).
2. Pretending to be unaware or unsophisticated; faux-naïf.

srsly dude what I want is for people who like to imagine they're holding the high ground to either walk it like they talk it or STFU

anyway, afaic john's distinction is one without a difference, as they say in my arena. he's basically saying that it's acceptable to attempt to point to a politician's own behavior, because that could demonstrate that a politician doesn't believe what he preaches, but it's unacceptable to point to a politician's family member's behavior contrary to the politican's preaching, because that can only be motivated by hate for, or an attempt to make use of hatred for, the behavior itself. never mind that:

1) demonstrating that a politician doesn't believe what he preaches by pointing to his own behavior is in this case necessarily an attempt to make use of hatred for the behavior

2) the politician's love for his family member might identically demonstrate the politican's hypocrisy, either because a) it demonstrates that the politician doesn't believe what he preaches at all, or b) the pollitician's preaching stops at the family line, which is different from the one the politician's supporters would draw

3) the politician's preaching might be expressive of self-loathing more than hypocrisy, which might in turn be echoed in more than a few of his supporters

4) the politician's preaching might be motivated by self-loathing derived from the family member's behavior or loathing of the family member's behavior

don, if this thread gets any 'classic'-er, will you 'bet your balls' on something? you've already done the requisite hillary post.

xp - without endorsing any of the tactics ascribed to me, i don't believe i've ever put myself on any specific high ground as far as putting the higher-grounded team over the top, so you can revise your imagination there

gabbneb on lefty fagbaiting: "I got a whole host of reasons why shit than would be outrageous if it came from the other side of the aisle is totes kewl when it scores points for my side"

than=that

"totes"

i mean, from here your position looks just like dick cheney's - it's more not-ok to play rough with family members than to prevent some rough policy from being enacted (oh i forgot, the governing party makes exactly zero difference regarding which countries are invaded, the top marginal tax rate, SChip coverage, FDA enforcement, etc etc etc)

gabbneb, the Cheney line doesn't work because (a) he has publicly spoken against the adminstration on this issue; (b) Mary Cheney by all accounts has such a happy relationship with her father that she and her partner appear on stage with him at political rallies.

yes gabbneb I am pretty indistinguishable from Dick Cheney in my belief that people don't have any business using "your dad's a fag! a kinky fag!" as a political trump card

I'm tappin yr phone also

al - that was self-parody, right?

I had to match the stuff you've been posting the last hour.

I'm the fag on this thread, and it's enough for me to despise Rove's tactics without my constructing hopeless psychonanalytic and biographical explanations for his behavior.

yes, it should be verboten to discuss psychonanalytic and biographical explanations for the behavior of very powerful people

shut up Alfred, The Party will tell you when to be offended or delighted

haha xpost yes gabbneb VERBOTEN, that's what people are talking about: CENSORSHIP!!!

looooooooool

alfred is not part of the party; he seems convinced that he is required to show some deference to the other side at regular intervals to be assured of his intellectual honesty

sounds like a pretty good rule to me

I can't believe gabbneb is as cynical as he pretends. I suppose it's fitting that he resort to GOP fag baiting when in today's NYT his party just gave yet another reason why they're as stupid as the one filled with sons of fags.

The Party knows better than gay men whether The Party is selectively homophobic

gabbneb, I'll never ever forget your post where you wanted to butch up Hillary. You can bet your balls on that.

I don't think gabbneb is nearly as cynical as he is a poltical realist. It's nice to crusade for a world where ethics and bigotry aren't situational but shit, we got us some elections to win before we can start the moral cleansing process.

alfred is not part of the party; he seems convinced that he is required to show some deference to the other side at regular intervals to be assured of his intellectual honesty

Please to show how being a pol is preferable.

THE HEALING HAS BEGUN

yeah Don if you think that this kinda thing will attract more voters/donors than it repels then I'm the guy who gets to holler "impractical"

Put it to you this way John, it's not going to repel nearly as many as you or I wish.

The Party knows better than gay men whether The Party is selectively homophobic

http://static.flickr.com/32/54268941_d274cb5008.jpg

brilliant comparison, bozo

that "if only we'd stayed in Vietnam LONGER" narrative never gets old, does it

(besides, I thought we were fighting WWII over, not Vietnam...? Sadaam worse than Hitler etc)

Ok.

Today, we remember a legend.

On this day in history, Harambe would have celebrated another birthday. An icon that became part of internet history, American culture, and an entire generation’s timeline.

Tomorrow marks 10 years since we lost him. Ten years since the moment the… pic.twitter.com/8kfaiuY5zy

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) May 27, 2026

I can't in good conscience say that this is the worst aspect of the trump regime, but part of me wants to

Oof. Is there an anniversary of chuck norris memes coming up that the nazis can celebrate

Harambe is canonically MAGA in the Garrison-verse:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CscYXUeVYAA95A5.jpg

is that gorilla a symbol for something? It just seems like an abject tragedy

I guess the whole thing is seen as a sort of harbinger of our current timeline or some shit

I think Harambe memes in 2016 were especially popular among internet-poisoned young men who voted for Trump for the lulz. Now a bunch of them work in the White House.

yeah, clearly some dog whistle that I can't hear

From September 2016:

Isbell is among a cadre of aspiring pop and hip hop artists who have seized on the Trump zeitgeist to propel their budding careers, often to great effect. Crafting catchy beats and lyrics befitting of their brash subject, these young men — and they’re all men — have earned loyal fans and accolades among fellow Trump supporters online. They have also fielded threats from those outraged by the dewey-eyed fandom that, at times, is as much mischievous performance art as it is a campaign rallying cry.

...

“It’s all meme based. It’s internet trolling turned to music. That’s the best way I could put it,” said rapper Rockie Gold, whose “Donald Trump Anthem” and “Hillary For Prison” received bursts of online buzz this summer. After churning out pop songs for several years, the 18-year-old said his music didn’t take off until it resonated with fellow Trump fans.

“We’re all sensitive and offended by everything now. We don’t even say the pledge of allegiance anymore. It’s crazy, dude,” Gold told Vocativ. “I want the America that I know. The America that I grew up in.”

...

Questions also loom as to whether these performers can transcend the very Trump brand they embraced, and broaden their appeal to a wider audience of listeners. It’s a concern Gold said he’s grappling with currently. “I think I can take my talent beyond just Republican fans,” he told Vocativ in a follow-up interview. “I try to stay unpolitical now because I want to make serious music.”

Gold’s succeeded in part. His latest single, “Dicks out for Harambe,” is a millennial’s ode to the slain silverback gorilla and dark internet meme. It recently exploded on YouTube and climbed to number one on the Spotify Viral 50 chart.

ahh okay. Hopefully they've dropped the Pepe the Frog thing when all the woke vegan soyboys wore inflatable frog suits to protests

it's the same deal as the pepe the frog thing yeah, just a meme that was popular at the right time to get coopted by them

I'm scratching my head at that article Jaymc posted. 18 year old guy complaining America isn't the America he grew up in?? Come on..

There used to be cookies and afternoon naps.

this is a side of Jason Isbell I never imagined

Harambe memes paved the way for Shinzo Abe memes.

Meanwhile, the White House of 2026 is posting this vile shit: https://www.whitehouse.gov/aliens/

“Dicks out for Harambe”

lol I’m losing it over here

https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/english_editorials/1260473.html

"A culture of hateful mockery in far-right circles has become a form of entertainment that permeates our everyday lives to a greater extent than many would like to believe."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmrmqEJpG5k