Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

you watch him talk and it's a million red flags within the first twenty seconds aside from the obvious 'i'm going to have vengeance today' BS. i assume there are more red flags after that, i stopped watching.

Do we have external confirmation that he'd never got a date/was a virgin? I always wonder about this, like in cases where the killer 'was a victim of bullying' (probably because I don't want to believe that people who really struggle socially are the ones who become killers, tbh).

figure he's the type who had a lot of money and status thrown at him, maybe more than love was given him, and he fell in with a bunch of online creeps who misled him further on how women were horrible and how they couldn't be trusted.

xp (i.e. I like to think that the killers pretend to be having a bad time, sort of stealing that identity from the people who really are)

seems like he was a weakminded kind of guy who was pushed by a bunch of psychotic alpha male wannabes into a place where he ended up doing something like this.

I do wonder what his dad's like.

Has anyone ever published a study of the rate at which these US school and college shootings are happening? Part of the horror is it feels like it's becoming a 'standard' thing now, an emerging liability that every year there's going to be one, something that just happens

AJ Soprano

I will be a god compared to you, you will all be animals, you are animals and I will slaughter you like animals.

this is p bog-standard frustrated-psycho, right? probably woulda found another value system to be an ubermensch in had pua-culture not existed. still highlights p vividly the kind of people (or the kind of parts in people) that shit plugs into.

So early reports say he is the son of the Hunger Games director.

Family attorney has issued a statement:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/killed-mass-murder-shooting-uc-santa-barbara/story?id=23853918

Key part:

The gunman who killed six people and died in a mass shooting near the University of California, Santa Barbara, has been identified by an attorney representing his father. The father of Elliot Rodger confirmed through his attorney, Alan Schifman, that his son was the gunman. The 22-year-old was being treated by multiple therapists and was a student at Santa Barbara City College, said Schifman. Schifman said that Rodger’s family was “devastated.” Schifman said in recent weeks that Rodger’s parents were concerned for their son's well being and reported his disturbing YouTube videos to police, which lead to an investigation. According to Schifman, police interviewed Rodger and found him to be “polite and kind.” He did not specify which law enforcement division conducted the interview. A social worker also contacted police about Rodger last week, said Schifman. Schifman said Rodger was diagnosed as being a high-functioning patient with Asperger syndrome and had faced bullying through much of his life as he had trouble making friends.

oof.

my god it's full of lawsuits

If what's said by the attorney is as described, I am strongly suspecting one of the results of this will be discussion/possible adoption of Laura's Law in Santa Barbara. It's a California statute calling for required institutionalizing of patients even against their will. I don't need to spell out exactly how/why this would be fraught; I would defer to others to add further thoughts. More here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura's_Law

Just was on a rooftop deck blasting "Pumped Up Kicks" of all songs.

Three bodies found in his apartment:

http://gawker.com/this-afternoon-at-least-one-body-was-removed-from-the-1581174371

:'( God, this sucks.

jesus

I hope they delete this loser's 'manifesto' before showing it to anybody

I'm reading it now. :/

why?

Just reinforcing the jolts of panic that shoot through me when I realize I've just spent X amount of time without looking behind me for menacing randoms or assessing the nearest exit door.

apparently police had visited the shooter after his father called and told them his son had been ranting about suicide and killing people. police supposedly found nothing wrong w/ him.

shouldn't ANYONE who posts youtubes that say such things be institutionalized until they find out what the fuck is going on? i just can't believe the police were like, "nah, he checks out, have a nice day."

why?

Your Boring Saturday Night

amateurist, that's probably due to the sheer amount of people posting stuff like this on youtube and the lack of time and resources police have to analyse it?

xp c'mon man

I'm sure it doesn't matter, but it just doesn't seem like the most empathetic move. I could be wrong about that, though.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/deranged-santa-barbara-california-killer-tied-premeditated-youtube-video-reports-article-1.1804354

Martinez's father, Richard, shouted with grief and blamed “craven” and “irresponsible” politicians and the NRA for the death of his only son at a press conference on Saturday.
“You don’t think it will happen to your child until it does,” Martinez said as he held a photo of his son as a child playing baseball. “Chris was a really great kid, ask anyone who knew him. His death has left our family lost and broken.”
"When will this insanity stop," the crying dad screamed. He added, "We should say to ourselves, 'Not one more," before he dropped the mic and stormed away from the podium.

The "manifesto" is actually a 150-page autobiography.

For what it's worth. Maybe not much.

I see. I guess I just feel like the shooter wanted us to read it. So the only 'fuck you' available to me is to not read it. But like I said, it doesn't really matter.

he clearly couldn't get a date because he was a freaky creep and women had the good sense to stay away from him.

― akm, Saturday, May 24, 2014 12:28 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Having now read the entire "manifesto," what strikes me is that he constantly bemoans the fact that women don't pay attention to him and are "repulsed by" him, but at no point does he ever actually approach a woman -- he seems to think that women should immediately recognize his "magnificence" and throw themselves at him. Perhaps his creepiness was apparent to the world, but it may also be true that the women who enraged him never had any cause to notice him in the first place.

yeah, that's what I got too. & a very conflicted view of the acts of male-female sexuality.

ie he was grossed out by male-female sex

the more i read about this the more pissed off i get at gun interests in america. that people so unstable as this continue to have ready access to firearms is a thing i fail to comprehend. and i know that this is only going to embolden gun owners to assert their position with the same tired arguments.

Um, from his dad's website:
http://www.rodgerpictures.com/#!/portfolio/G0000FDyJy6_MOJY

Looks like his stepmom in all of those photos.

Idg how that can be an actual photo from the taj mahal

who doesn't love a good juicy manifesto amirite

In January, officials said, Rodger accused his roommate of stealing three candles worth $22 and performed a citizen's arrest. The Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department eventually arrested the roommate and booked him on petty theft charges.

Last summer, he accused several people of assaulting him. But investigators concluded he was the aggressor in the incident and a detective suspended the case.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-isla-vista-shooting-suspect-feared-police-visit-would-foil-attack-20140524-story.html

He was eventually found dead of a gunshot wound to the head that appeared to be elf-inflicted.

sometimes, you have to find some comedy in the darkness.

I hate how cnn/everyone blames the parents.

His parents fucking <b>reported him</b> way before all this. Do you know what that takes as a parent?

What else were they "supposed to do"??

....and fuck bbcode while we're at it

I don't know. The parents probably live near by. If they don't, they can afford to come out. Maybe they did. Not blaming them, but I don't think 'reporting' your child is the ultimate effort.

but it sounds like their son was not well. I'm sure it's difficult.

He seems to be somewhat charismatic in fooling authority. He maybe fooled his parents too?

actually reporting your child isn't just making a phone call, it's an agonizing process.

You mean the process behind making the decision? Or the actual process of reporting?

I'd imagine all of it

yeah, I can imagine as well. I'm still not sure that it represents evidence for "we've done all that we can do". I think that remains an open question. But then again I'm not trying to blame the parents, and I'm doing a bad job of that here. so I'll just shut up about it.