Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

was at a bar the other night, someone's purse got knocked over and a gun fell out. I've seen guns in public before and it's scary & annoying, but you know it's just idiots waving their dicks around. concealed carry on the other hand is something else, this person goes out thinking "I'm going to bring my handgun with me just in case I need to murder someone", I just cannot fucking understand that frame of mind. I don't think so much as a slap fight has ever broken out in this place!

there were cops with machine guns posted outside our theatre and walking the streets outside it a few weeks ago, not long after the Robb Elementary shooting, and they wouldn't tell us what it was about. was a bit unnerving.

the US averaged 51.2 mass shooting deaths per month from Jan through May. In the first 5 days of June there have already been 22 deaths.

Speaking of cops and machine guns:

https://www.fox19.com/2021/03/29/former-addyston-police-chief-returns-federal-court-machine-gun-scheme-charges-8/

A former Tri-State police chief won’t spend a day in prison

LaCourse, who used to lead the Addyston Police Department, was convicted in April of using his law enforcement position to illegally help two federally licensed firearms dealers in Indiana acquire and resell about 200 fully automatic machine guns.

the wild bears are out of control this season. only machine guns can help the good people of ohio to defeat the bears

I'm sorry to ask such a naïve question, but the thread is too long to open up for searching. I was wondering how, if the NRA filed for bankruptcy recently, do they still accrue such clout with political donations? Or is it just a full-on culture war now and the donations are no longer a factor?

the bankruptcy was just admin, to try and move states in order to avoid prosecution. they are not out of money.

They must be mind-wreckingly stupid to imagine that a bankruptcy would get up when they are literally giving away (tens? hundreds? of) millions.

god I had better not engage with this, I'm both clueless and easily depressed

Son of Buffalo shooting victim asks Senate: "Is there nothing that you personally are willing to do to stop the cancer of white supremacy and the domestic terrorism it inspires? Because if there is nothing, then...you should yield your positions." pic.twitter.com/Yv9cPfEkAt

— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) June 7, 2022

Let’s not underestimate the clout of gun manufacturers who just shovel millions to right wing politicians, but quietly.

I can’t find it online but I read in the dead-tree Washington Post about the political activities of the manufacturer of the weapon used in Uvalde.

And mass shootings always lead to increased gun sales. Killing is their business…and business is good!

I wonder if the Kremlin can still keep the NRA afloat with their current, eh, 'expenditures'

Um, huh? How did the Kremlin get mentioned here

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/nra-maria-butina-ukraine-putin-war-crimea-republicans-trump-guns/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804

progress (........?)

Facebook’s ban on gun sales gives sellers 10 strikes before booting them

Facebook prohibits gun sales on its service. But buyers and sellers can violate the rule 10 times before they are kicked off the social network, according to internal guidance obtained by The Washington Post.

The policy, which has not previously been reported, is much more lenient than for users who post child pornography, which is illegal, or a terrorist image on Facebook, which prompts immediate removal from the platform.

A separate five-strikes policy extends even to gun sellers and purchasers who actively call for violence or praise a known dangerous organization, according to the documents.

...But while the company was publicly praised for banning the sales, internally, enforcement was lax, they added.

“The number of strikes needed to actually take someone off was so great that the policy didn’t really make a difference. The only ramification was that a seller’s post was taken down,” the person said.

Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/09/facebook-gun-sellers-10-strikes/

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/facebook-enforces-ban-on-gun-sales-with-10-strikes-and-youre-out-policy/

they just need nine reminders before it sinks in

thing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

Sigh

flag football?

When I was using Facebook Marketplace to sell off some power tools, I'd report all the EMPTY GLOCK CASE WINKWINK $600 ads and Facebook said they were all legit and above board.

no see what they were saying is that was a 'partial strike' so like it counts as a half-strike towards their ten strike total but the ad is allowed to stay up in the meantime because I mean they have to make a living maaaan

hing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, June 9, 2022 1:59 PM bookmarkflaglink

lol seriously, though they did manage to figure out the last time I did that and ban my other account. shoulda used VPN

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

keep in mind, with facebook the number used to be higher! "Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower."

honestly, having been a veteran on a couple of mid-to-low projects that no one really cared about in a large organization, this kind of sounds like the thing where you only make about a third of the very obvious improvements you can make. why do it all at once and have to start over on new project when you can spread the "doing good" part over several years instead? Don't go from 20 strikes (or 40. or 51?) to 3 strikes or 2 strikes or 1 strike all at once. you gotta slooooowly get there and build up some PT along the way

A friend from high school got banned for drunkenly ranting at COVID deniers night after night over the summer of 2020 and decided it was time to go to rehab. Getting banned from Facebook is a pretty legit rock bottom IMO.

why would anyone want to sell a firearm anyway? guns are for hoarding, hundreds of them

Guns are for killing, you Commie dirtbag.

guns are for killing the bears that threaten my family here on the frontier. the local bears are incredibly angry with my family, and particularly me

Don't piss off the gays, Karl.

i don't understand why they're all so angry with me when all did was them to stay off my frontier, please

(multiple words eaten by wildlife)

the wildlife has a right to eat your words, its their land

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

― When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Thursday, June 9, 2022 11:01 AM

take your pick: sexually abusing children, insider trading, use of excessive force, etc.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/09/1104010176/washington-county-maryland-shooting

xpost Yeah of course but I'm thinking a more formalized 'careful, guy, u just got yr ninth strike so you're super close to suffering a mild consequence' type of situation

co-worker reporting the mall her son works at (Eastridge Mall in Gastonia, NC) just had a shooting. early news = 3 shot, with non-life threatening injuries (hope it stays that way)

department of homeland security helpfully informs us that many more people are going to be killed this summer

if only there were something, anything, anyfuckingthing at all that could be done to prevent even a few of these murders that we know are going to happen, but nah

If only.

Minority Report but the precogs are like w/e d00d

Dumb question from a non-American: I remember Trump issuing executive orders on all kinds of crazy stuff, why can't Biden issue an executive order banning assault rifles?

like with most of trump’s crazy shit it would be thrown out by the courts asap and set terrible legal precedents

and Biden's trying to present himself as the calmer, saner alternative to Trump's wild-eyed crazy act

And Biden like most Democrats is an institutionalist who doesn’t want to disturb “norms” or tradition.

Oh man---even more bad details re police response, I think---was already pretty granular in prev. reports--this is summary of latest testimony in Texas legislature:
https://link.motherjones.com/view/5eb474cbb01fd7378a5c1c4agqx0t.13x4/49c04054

Didn't realize they got there within 3 minutes---but then, of course--

That the door might not have even been locked and the person in charge at the scene claiming he didn't know he was in charge...jfc

https://apnews.com/article/alabama-birmingham-shootings-religion-1c773c7332c344e5ac30a1101cedeeef

Wow. Eva Mireles, a Uvalde teacher, called her husband and told him she had been shot and was dying.

Her husband, a police officer, tried to take down the shooter but was detained by other officers and had his gun taken away. https://t.co/fPgfra6n5z

— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) June 22, 2022

There's going to be a new horrifying piece of information every other day until the sun swallows us all