Crazy psychopath exes: C/D?

was she hot though?

nobody's ever gone psycho on me, which is pretty amazing all things considered. it's not like i don't deserve one.

was she hot though?

If she put as much effort into skin cleansing as she does into being crazy, maybe she could be.

people who are crazy afterwards tend to be needy beforehand. theres usually warning signs about these things. maybe it depends if you like people that are going to be reliant on you so you can be in control of them or something. not for me though

i agree. clingy neediness when things are goin good: flattering. the same, later, "psycho"

ie, a lot of the time with 'crazy stalker exes' the other person is also kind of as much to blame, in that certain modes of behaviour are actually encouraged (when it suits)

or, needyness and crazy-psycho-exes are both examples of low self-esteem and/or lack of self respect, and therefore an unequal power balance, which can be attractive to certain people who might want to feel or exercise a certain...dominance?

Gareth is pretty frighteningly OTM.

It's really easy to label a girl "psycho ex girlfriend" but not so easy to look at your own behaviour and realise what you've been doing to provoke her reactions.

ie, a lot of the time with 'crazy stalker exes' the other person is also kind of as much to blame, in that certain modes of behaviour are actually encouraged (when it suits)

Which doesn't put the blame on the victim. Stalking is unwanted attention. I know what you mean, but I really hate it when some of the blame is put on the victim (if s/he made it clear s/he doesn't like the attention).

There are signs? Twenty twenty hindsight (sometimes).

i think people usually end up with the kind of people they deserve. most behaviour is pretty predictable really, though maybe we only realise this subconsciously a lot of the time

most of mine are the complete opposite from what dom describes, leaves-in-the-wind when i met them, vanish into the ether afterwards. i like things to be easy, low pressure, no drama, and im also way too visually focused. so, similarly its not really a surprise that i end up with this kind of girl

there are always ALWAYS signs

(i meant to type psycho rather than stalker). but its pretty common that this kind of behaviour IS predictable (the friends usually see it straightaway for a start)

(ie, im pretty superficial when it comes down to it, so i encourage the negative sides of my own relationships, which is basically flightyness)

It is, true, but being in love=being somewhat naive and you fool yourself. You NEVER see reality, the world, the person as it is until it's *too* late.

And fuck people who say about this (and abusive relationships:"It'll never happen to me!" It angers me enormously when people (including my friends) say this. I nearly froth at the mouth when they say this.

Oh ffs, Gareth, they deserve that? Nobody deserves abuse (unless they are masochistic). Sorry, but you're completely wrong in this case. You may be strong and casual about emotions and (wrongly) think you're not going to be the <I>fool</I> who falls for that. You're only naive (or you can easily to switch off your emotions). Relationships are very tricky things: you fall in love and you are blind (up to a degree).

somewhere between want and deserve then (lets not forget, this negative behaviour was probably not viewed as negative DURING the relationship)

there's another kind?

never said i was strong or casual, dont really think its about that necessarily. its about behavioural archetypes

j/k ladies, u kno i love u

bitches, huh

some people have a need to be destructive, others have a need to be destroyed.

and, hey, maybe you guys are the crazy psycho exes too?

why do you think im moving?

oh shit, i just remembered

there was an article about this in yesterdays daily mail

i only had time for a cursory reading of it, but i think it was enough to tell me

oh i've totally been the crazy psycho ex in my day

crazy psycho exes = 99% of the time really funny from the outside. because they are crazy psychos, the dudes are right, but they also usually have reason, because the dudes also deserve it

Not all crazy exes are needy. Some are sociopaths who are very funny and charming at first and then they start controlling your every move and then they start abusing you and then when you leave them they call you at 5AM every night threatening you and then three years later when your best friend is their TA at college CONTINUE TO ASK ABOUT YOU.

Just saying, it's not always needy-turn-psycho. Sometimes it's nice guy-turn-monster.

Boys often like crazy girls when they first meet them but then later the boys gets tired of all the craziness and shout jeeringly at the girls that they are crazy.
-- estela (estelaisale...) (webmail), July 10th, 2003 1:16 AM. (estela) (later)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 8080

^^^^ that is my favourite good charlotte song

girls that hold cards are hotter than girls that dont btw. but, they might play a different card than you

girls that dont hold cards have to follow your lead, you shouldnt go for them though, even though your guaranteed to win the hand

what crazy card-based speed dating have you been involved in?

it was this weird game called Basketball

i've been dealt a few jokers

If you're gonna play the game boy, you better learn to play it right.

i dont have a gameboy:(

Usually, when people talk about "crazy psycho exes" there tends to be a bit of showing off, like "look how upset they are!". Because they really want to feel wanted, and want other people to see that they are wanted.

Also, it's a bit dishonest, because it's a kind of refusal to properly acknowledge the fact that "they are really angry with me about something", which is a bit different.

Unless they are actually mentally ill, in which case, hey talk about them on an internet board using your full name, that's bound to be helpful.

i have totally been a crazy psycho ex before, but i doubt i would be these days.

also is it just my imagination or has gareth been saying "there was an article about this in yesterdays daily mail" on every thread lately?

Even a cursory reading of every thread would tell you that.

gareth gets up at 5 every morning to steal my copy from my letterbox

i think the article was about paul scholes' leather pants

xpost

i wonder why Dom's 'crazy psycho ex' struck at the weekend - shoulda waited til today for bigger coverage. fookin amateurs.

Also, it's a bit dishonest, because it's a kind of refusal to properly acknowledge the fact that "they are really angry with me about something", which is a bit different.

OTM OTM OTM OTM 8080 TO THE POWER OF A MILLION

It's just another way to be dismissive of female anger, oh they must just be crazy to be violating gender roles of nice, nuturing females - never mind that there might actually be something to be angry about.

I was actually going to say something like "it's not just dismissiveness of female anger", and then I realised it probably is.

Maybe it's because I don't hear women bandying about the term "psycho" about male exes. Or not as much anyway, because that carries serious connotations that (rightly or wrongly) are not as easily dismissed as with female "psychos".

woman be hysterical

i think i know what this is about

Instead of "pyscho" I've referred to male exes as "cruel" and "mysognistic" which is worse I think.

when are people going to learn that the way to deal with some one who's wronged you is to act nonchalantly and sleep with her/ his friend's?

crazy gets you nowhere.

men get the 'creepy' label a lot more than women tho (perhaps deservedly so in terms of ratio but there still seems an imbalance, maybe based on who tries to initiate stuff most often)

Well yes, "creepy" for men means "crazy psycho" for women. "Crazy psycho" for men usually means "wife-beater". It's a differently loaded term when applied to men.

Like women never get called "creepy"?

They get called "psycho" more often, by men AND other women. I very rarely hear women called "creepy".

too well

max r, get out of the refrigerator

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^^^max r theme tune

c'mon, everybody's at it.

http://www.ilsecoloxix.it/sport/foto/2007/05/28/QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ--U100640150404d9D-456x316.jpg

i'd ban the lot of you

^^^voice of reason

I bet he says that to all the girls.

Hey baby, come and take a look at my banhammer

i'm the peter sutcliffe of ILX

the post that had to be hit

Not just of ILX, I heard.

When Sutcliffe was stripped of his clothing at the police station, he was discovered to be wearing a V-neck sweater under his trousers; the arms had been pulled over his legs, so that the V-neck exposed his groin; the elbows were padded to protect his knees as, presumably, he knelt over his victims' corpses. The sexual implications of this outfit were held to be obvious, but this fact was not communicated to the public until disclosure in a book by Michael Bilton, published in 2003, called Wicked Beyond Belief: The Hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper.

Superpippo > Peter Sutcliffe > my ex

kv_nol, do you hate football?

-- Just got offed, Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:48 (Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:48)

I wouldn't cross the street to say hello but I wouldn't go so far as to say I hate it. Tolerate it might be a better way of putting it.

Do you tolerate Steve Staunton, though?

No. I can't understand why he is still manager.

Nor can we. It's great! :D

hurrr hurrr! women, eh?

It is rather amusing if you're not involved. The language I've learned hearing people talking about him though... (xpost)

i only had a cursory read of the first 70 posts on this thread but gareth and matt were OTM like innit.

Yeah, well you could have Roy Keane instead, but he and the Irish FA have some sort of awkward mutual loathing, and worse, God's got a plan for him, and that plan only involves Sunderland FC...

I think Dean Kiely or Mark Kinsella are the answers, myself. Maybe both?

OK, Max R is a troll. For realz.

Sorry LJ, you're well beyond me re. Irish football.

They weren't particularly sensible suggestions, to be honest. They're both experienced Ireland footballers of the recent past, and both have captained their clubs, but the only reason I mentioned them is that they're Charlton legends. Kinsella at least is a coach nowadays, so you never know!

(the alternative, of course, is Radio 5 'analyst' and occasional midfielder Matt Holland)

Okay stop now before I get all Tuomas and start asking silly questions that everyone else on this thread knows the answers to...

where's John Aldridge these days?

Apparently he won an Irish TV singing contest a few months back

yeah he did, but he was sh1te.

ireland job- neil warnock/martin jol combo

my favourite bit of the thread
"A "boyfriend"/"girlfriend" is something that people with social skills sometimes develop"

so true and those who develop a bf/gf are to be congratulated. although sometimes you just get lucky, like nani put in an assist the other day.

nani/rooney/tevez love-triangle just waiting to happen

thriller video screenshot, quick!

which one is the psycho ex?

my sister had a boyfriend who i thought was a really well adjusted, charming, funny guy. used to go out for drinks with even when we weren't hanging around with her. turned out he was a total nutter afterwards, saying he was gonna top himself and ringing her 50 times a day. so you never know, i never would have guessed.

xpost: auld slapper

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

-- max r, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

Gonna miss this dude.

max r is slinging rock now?

Turns out dude was fake.

the smiths had some funky jams.

(there's a quote for the ban max r thread)

-- max r, T

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Smiths should have covered "Strokin'", that's a funk jam right there.

i had a gf once

animated?

pretty excitable, maybe

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

-- max r, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:45 (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

Gonna miss this dude.

-- Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 16 October 2007

s'okay bud, any time you need any more serious gems of advice like this, just give me a shout.

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I don't he's so much crazy as a bit stoned most of the time.

"s'okay bud"

have a cheap pay as you go phone for girls' calls, and your regular one for mates.

-- max r, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:45 (2 months ago) Bookmark Link

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