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Just got the trilogy out the library. I was a bit too young to appreciate how awesome this show was at the time but I saw the first episode and it's brilliant! Like the Sopranos but set in Thatcherite Parliament. Awesome!

the next grozart, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

You might say that. I could not possibly comment.

Michael White, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

no love for this... :-(

the next grozart, Saturday, 9 June 2007 16:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

My parents loved it.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 June 2007 16:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

this is freaking phenomenal. how could i have been unaware of the existence of ian richardson for my entire life???

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

So good. Everyone should watch it.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think To Play the King is my favourite of the trilogy.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Remembered watching when I was quite young and loving it, but heaps must have gone over my head. Have just been given the complete DVD set. Will enjoy!

X-post: Yeah, the whole destroy Prince Charles thing done very well!

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

The Sopranos comparison at the top of the thread is apt in that you objectively find the protagonist repugnant on every level, but can't help but root for him.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's because ian richardson is quite possibly the most charming actor who ever lived.

he is just impeccable in this. so precise. so sure of himself. so vain.

there's a scene in the third episode, about 4 or 5 minutes in, when the PM has just announced his resignation. richardson comes into the MPs' washroom - where we/the camera are - and talks to us about it, his voice simply dripping with disdain for the PM.

i've watched this short scene about 5 or 6 times now. throughout his speech he is doing what you do in a washroom, down to the last detail. he takes off his jacket and hangs it on the door. he uses the urinal. still talking to us, of course, looking right in the camera. he goes to the sink, removes his ring, soaps up his hands, still talking. rinses them, shakes them violently a few times, dries them, heads back for the door, takes his coat, puts it on.. and with each of these small bits of business, linked seamlessly and naturally together, he emphasizes what he's saying. he uses all of it as punctuation to his speech.

apparently he modelled francis on richard III (francis even quotes from that play in one scene with his wife). i wish i could have seen him on stage.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

The scene in question:

"An admirable trait in a spaniel... Or a whore... But not, I think, in a Prime Minister."

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

I always feel oddly flattered when he addresses the camera, the audience is the only entity he treats as an equal apart from his wife.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

LOVE this series

i have been on a bbc tear lately. this and edge of darkness are top-notch, i am reevaluating my opinion of british culture.

max, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 13:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

also cant stop irritating my coworkers by saying "YOU might think that... I couldnt possibly comment"

max, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^as you are working in PR you may find that a useful sentence from time to time. Your coworkers will stop wanting to kill you the first time you use it on a hostile journalist.

I love this series - self and boyfriend at the time watched it when it first aired, riveted to the sofa.

gnothi sautée (suzy), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

apparently he modelled francis on richard III

I think I read that Richardson wouldn't come back for the third series unless something unseemly befell FU since he felt he'd made him entirely too seductive a vilain.


Mit der Kattzheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Michael White), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:30 (seven years ago) Permalink


yeah this was definitely an EEP moment

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

have you seen tinker, tailor, soldier, spy?

conrad, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

nope but i want to

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 30 January 2010 16:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Love the way this ended, by the way (Part I that is)

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 30 January 2010 16:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

My memories were that I liked it at the beginning but I got more resistant to his Shakesperian mask...the catchphrase wore itself out amidst those ever so ridiculous plots.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 January 2010 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

I thought the 3rd one was a bit disappointing, except his wife really came into her own in it.

sarahel, Saturday, 30 January 2010 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah I liked her more actually.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 January 2010 21:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

The third is the weakest, but it's still good. Geoffrey Boozer-Pitt is an excellent character.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Sunday, 31 January 2010 21:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

man i've GOT to see this show, i must have missed it when it was on the bbc first time round. i recall the hype dimly. god knows what i was doing instead at the time.
was it 3 self contained series? is he the same 'rank'/ title in all 3?

piscesx, Sunday, 31 January 2010 22:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I saw the first series and liked it a lot - it was on at exactly the same time as Thatcher's downfall, wasn't it? I've never seen the second or third ones.

Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 31 January 2010 22:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

was it 3 self contained series? is he the same 'rank'/ title in all 3?

They're all pretty much self-contained, but there are threads running through all three. Each series is four hour-long episodes. He's Chief Whip in the first, and PM in the second two.

BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Sunday, 31 January 2010 23:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

watchin this again! :-)

village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 1 November 2010 10:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey, they're on netflix! This looks good!

Dan I., Monday, 1 November 2010 10:16 (six years ago) Permalink

If he's Richard III then his wife is Lady Macbeth

A Reclaimer Hewn With (Michael White), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:41 (six years ago) Permalink


progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 November 2010 14:47 (six years ago) Permalink

god the irish bloke in this...prob the worst paddy stereotype i've ever seen in a drama, not least cos it appears to be a genuine attempt at crafting a character. also...tories in the 80s, would they REALLY have an Irish press officer? like how many years after hunger strikes and shit? can't believe they'd want an Irish guy or an Irish person would want to work for them.

his name is Roger O'Neill and they mention him playing rugby a lot so is he meant to be protestant or something? V confused as a character, or second gen Irish?

this show is good but it's imperfect imo, some of the "sardonic asides" are a bit too comfortable/cosy.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 7 November 2010 21:36 (six years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

so apparently kevin spacey and david fincher are remaking this... for netflix?

max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:27 (six years ago) Permalink

i actually think spacey could do pretty well, hes got that kind of menacing camp thing going on

max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:28 (six years ago) Permalink


three megabytes of hot RAM (abanana), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 05:16 (six years ago) Permalink

this is interesting news

could be awesome

'apparently aaron sorkin is scripting an ed gein biopic' - an entertainment news blog

suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:14 (six years ago) Permalink

No, terrible idea.

Inevitable stupid dubstep mix (chap), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

how so?

the original is good -- ian richardson kills it obvi -- but it's not like it couldn't be done again well. plus that was a four-parter, this is already 26 episodes, so it's not going to be the same.

suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:26 (six years ago) Permalink

aw this is gonna be 26 episodes? was hoping for a 12-episode hbo-style series

max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:27 (six years ago) Permalink

they've ordered 2x series of 13 eps, which is bold

suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:28 (six years ago) Permalink

2 arcs over 13 episodes each better than 1 over 16, i think

max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:45 (six years ago) Permalink

26, rather. esp with a show like this.

max, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 21:45 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah. the really long 23-ep thing... <3 'the west wing' but in general 23 eps is too much for full-length shows. though im loving the hell out of the_killing.

suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 22:10 (six years ago) Permalink

It doesn't matter if it's not as good as UK series, cuz only US politics/BBC nerds hv seen Richardson version.

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 March 2011 14:47 (six years ago) Permalink

will be interested in this version if villain is a Democrat btw

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 March 2011 14:52 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Just started watching this last night, great stuff. Richardson breaking the 4th wall every so often is ultra-effective. Also notable how different London looked just 20yrs ago.

Neil S, Sunday, 8 May 2011 10:46 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

so apparently kevin spacey and david fincher are remaking this... for netflix?

― max, Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:27 AM (1 year ago)

this is filming right now... in baltimore

The new Netflix political drama "House of Cards" is now in production in the Baltimore, Maryland and Washington, D.C. areas. The casting directors are auditioning actors in New York, Los Angeles and Baltimore/D.C. for guest starring, recurring, and day player roles. In addition to the acting roles, many extras are being hired throughout the season. "House of Cards" will be based on the BBC miniseries of the same name. That original BBC version was based on a novel from British author Michael Dobbs. Netflix has ordered two seasons of episodes.

Starring in "House of Cards" is two-time Academy Award winner Kevin Spacey as Rep. Frank Underwood, a House of Representatives Majority Whip who, after not being appointed Secretary of State, derives a plan to bring down the new president and take over the Oval Office. Golden Globe Award nominee Robin Wright plays Frank's wife Claire Underwood; Kate Mara is playing Zoe Barnes, a reporter for a Washington paper who conspires with Underwood to land a killer scoop; Michael Gill plays U.S. President Garrett Walker; two-time Tony nominee Jayne Atkinson is Sen. Catherine Durant; Corey Stoll landed the role of womanizing Rep. Patrick Russo, and Kristen Connolly plays Russo's Executive Assistant Christina Malone with whom he has a torrid affair.

am0n, Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:40 (four years ago) Permalink

i tried to watch this recently, i found it oddly unamenable. does it become less arch after the first ten minutes?

human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:44 (four years ago) Permalink

Kate Mara = Rooney's older sister.

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:46 (four years ago) Permalink

does it become less arch after the first ten minutes?

― human centipede hz (thomp)

Oh it's incredibly arch. I still love it.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 20 September 2012 18:59 (four years ago) Permalink

I agree that Underwood's everyday access to Russo made it easier to do what he did. But Zoe's murder was cloak-and-dagger stuff; he was in full disguise so as not to be seen. Don't see how him killing Rachel would play out any differently. Anyway, minor point, and you say explanations are on the way. (One reason might be that Stamper obviously has feelings for Rachel that go beyond sexual.)

Another thing I liked about the Civil War episode: the way Stamper sidles up to Underwood at the end and whispers "They got Lucas Goodwin." I suspect it was meant to be a direct echo of the way Rocco goes up to Michael near the end of The Godfather and whispers "We got them all."

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 23:16 (two years ago) Permalink

Kevin Spacey throwing a baseball...I think that was supposed to be the character's ineptitude, no Spacey's. I really, really, really hope so.

clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2015 00:46 (two years ago) Permalink

The Tusk-Feng-Danton-Underwood-Lanagin maneuvering: I don't understand all of this, although it's probably pretty straightforward if I took a minute to work it out. Best thing on the show right now, a few episodes from finishing season 2: the Doug-Rachel relationship. Asking her to read A Tale of Two Cities off her phone was excellent.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 March 2015 22:49 (two years ago) Permalink


one helluva law firm

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2015 23:09 (two years ago) Permalink

I remember not really understanding a lot of the political maneuvering of season 2 either. I'm guess I probably could have figured it out if I put some thought into it, but it didn't really seem worth the effort.

I just finished season 3. If they would have compressed this season into 4-5 episodes, it might have been good, but a lot of this just felt unnecessarily long.

silverfish, Sunday, 29 March 2015 03:12 (two years ago) Permalink

I came to this show cold, so everything's a surprise. I think Jump-the-Meechum moments should enter television vernacular.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2015 04:47 (two years ago) Permalink

I assume I'm correct in thinking that Underwood's long-standing plan to bring down Walker was a plan in broad outline only--that he's had to improvise along the way as circumstances warranted. I mean, you're not supposed to accept that everything that's happened was carefully calibrated from the beginning, right? That would be a bit much.

I like the Seth character a lot. He's as bland and as non-descript as cutthroat gets.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2015 18:31 (two years ago) Permalink

Finished the second season. I know there are other options, but I'll probably just wait for the DVDs to continue.

In the midst of all the detours, believable and preposterous, Doug Stamper strikes me as a genuinely tragic character--the last shot of him made me sad. (I shouldn't have, but I checked to find out if he was dead or not.)

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2015 00:25 (two years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, a radio ad backing Hanaway featured a Frank Underwood imitator mocking Schweich as a Barney Fife lookalike and a "little bug."

j., Tuesday, 31 March 2015 15:21 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Couple of more episodes and I'll be caught up. I'll put down some thoughts then, but I continue to find Doug Stamper a memorably haunted character. At one point there was a shot of him at the end of a hallway, and with his cane he reminded me of Everett Sloane Lady from Shanghai. I find those shots of him staring at that intersection on his monitor sad and moving.

clemenza, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:34 (two years ago) Permalink

"Everett Sloane from..."

clemenza, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:34 (two years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

omfg Ellen Burstyn we praise you

police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 6 March 2016 15:39 (one year ago) Permalink

also I am SO pleased to see that this show has officially become House of Claire bcz she really has been imo the "main" character this whole time and now she's first and foremost.

police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 6 March 2016 15:40 (one year ago) Permalink

man no one cares about this show anymore eh

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 March 2016 15:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Well, it certainly got less interesting after Frank stopped doing the really crazy stuff and now only does stuff that real politicians do. In retrospect I feel like they fired the big guns too early. Was a better season than season 3 at least. And I finished watching it in two days but I think that speaks more to my poor life choices than the show's quality

Vinnie, Sunday, 6 March 2016 17:29 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm still interested. But I'll have to wait until a co-worker gets it all onto a USB for me.

I'm so out of it sometimes as to the way things are done now. When she let me know on Friday that the new season was out this weekend, I said that that went along with theory that Claire would run again Frank, and that everything would be timed to the election in November. She then reminded me that the entire season was out this weekend.

clemenza, Monday, 7 March 2016 00:50 (one year ago) Permalink

really liked this season eventually -- slow start but set in place the right dynamics for later.

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 01:03 (one year ago) Permalink

final shot is kind of chilling

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 01:06 (one year ago) Permalink


calstars, Tuesday, 8 March 2016 01:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Six episodes in, liking most of it. The problem with watching it the way I have--the first three seasons quickly, then a few months away from it--is that characters pop up and I've forgotten their entire backstory (and am too lazy to check plot synopses on Wikipedia). I can't remember why Dunbar is running against Frank, can't remember how Secretary Durant got where she is; when Zoe Barnes, the alcoholic congressman, and Raymond Tusk turn up, it's amusing to remember how central they once were. Doug Stamper remains my favorite character; loved "Now, why don't you threaten me again?"

clemenza, Monday, 14 March 2016 00:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Stamper is like a scary Terminator death machine ugh

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:54 (one year ago) Permalink

he's like a sociopath without the charisma or someothing

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:54 (one year ago) Permalink

As someone who loved S1 and disliked S2 should I bother catching up with 3 and 4?

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 14 March 2016 12:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes, definitely. I think the show has plotlines that could very easily write themselves into corners but they manage to shift gears and continue along in interesting ways.

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 14 March 2016 13:01 (one year ago) Permalink

if you enjoy the idea of "Melrose Place" in the Beltway.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2016 13:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I think that's a partly true characterization of Stamper, but the best and most complicated relationship in the whole series for me was his obvious love for Rachel pitted against his maniacal loyalty to Underwood--at least until that was resolved, he was this great tortured and haunted character. (He's moved more towards the Terminator side since, but I still find the character fascinating.)

Just watched episode 8, my favourite in a while. I kept thinking about how great it all looked--much closer to the shadowy cool of All the President's Men than Spotlight ever got, say. I love the juxtaposition of the main story with the Zoe Barnes investigation burrowing underneath--very glad that's been resurrected. I've avoided reading anything on the new season, so I'm not sure where it's headed.

clemenza, Monday, 14 March 2016 13:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Not sure about the finale, but overall, good season. I especially liked Remy turning into Hal Holbrook.

clemenza, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 15:10 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm assuming that the first 3 seasons are adapted from the British Tv series or straight from the books which both only go up to a 3rd volume as far as i'm aware. So is this 4th series completely original to the US tv writers or was there any input from the original author?

Ian Richardson is really good as the central manipulator in the UK version.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:12 (one year ago) Permalink

this show is terrible, the bbc one was terrible, and richard iii is also terrible, to arrange them in ascending order of intermittently fun camp

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:18 (one year ago) Permalink

The editing on this is tight — we watched last night waiting for a place to pause it and go to bed but the scenes just snap one to the next until suddenly the episode is over.

Funny watching this season in light of Trump; almost seems like an outdated Pleasantville version of US politics, a venal candidate who still needs the cover of respectable political maneuvering to get ahead.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 17:20 (one year ago) Permalink

that's partly why the show's unwatchable for me in March 2016. I did experience a mild frisson at the sight of Ellen Burstyn.

Also: Kevin Spacey has become a dreary, predictable, terrible actor.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 17:22 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't know--if you like political maneuvering in films, this falls somewhere on a spectrum from Advise and Consent (the best) and The Best Man to lesser films like The Ides of March and The Contender. I thought Spacey was too much in the early episodes of the first season, but got better and better after that.

clemenza, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 17:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm glad the new season wasn't overloaded with Trump references--suspect that most of it was filmed before he became overlord of the world. Not surprisingly, Nixon and Clinton allusions dominated. If they were trying to be timely, I'm guessing Conway was a stand-in for what they thought would be a Rubio nomination.

clemenza, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 17:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Not sure I can (nor want to) picture Rubio starting his mornings that way. Maybe Justin Trudeau?

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 17:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Also: Kevin Spacey has become a dreary, predictable, terrible actor.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

I don't usually see his films, so can't speak generally, but I watched Margin Call for the second time last week, and I think he's excellent in that.

clemenza, Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:16 (one year ago) Permalink

he's OK until he has to cry for the dog

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I saw him in Moon for the Misbegotten on Broadway in 2008 and it was an...interesting performance. I liked Spacey in general in the 90s tho.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:31 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I'm nine episodes in and Season 4 is so fucking boring.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Does it get better?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I more or less liked the nine episodes you hated. So for you, I'd have to say no.

clemenza, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:58 (one year ago) Permalink

The final scene is really shocking and awesome and memorable. So if you've begrudgingly made it this far, you might as well stick it out.

Evan R, Thursday, 12 May 2016 03:53 (one year ago) Permalink

I haven't worked up the enthusiasm to get thru s3 let alone s4

the bleakness, darkness of it is really suffocating after a while

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 May 2016 05:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Liked this a lot more than season 3, where the Stamper/abduction roadtrip felt like a sadistic potboiler. Glad this one sticks to D.C.

Yung Chella (Eazy), Friday, 13 May 2016 00:28 (one year ago) Permalink

I more or less liked the nine episodes you hated. So for you, I'd have to say no.

I really enjoyed the first half of the season but the presidential campaign and Claire's ongoing rise towards the ticket is dull and seems to have killed off all the intrigue. Might as well stick it out I suppose.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 11:03 (one year ago) Permalink

finally finished this; really enjoyed it, in particular the Claire stuff because she's the most interesting character on the show, to me. really at this point they could kill Spacey off and it would probably be better. Also it was nice to see Walker back a bit, it made me nostalgic for his non-existence administration.

akm, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 03:14 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I'm mid-way into the current season and am not sure how I feel about it. Francis' and Claire's characters were loosely based on the Clintons, and with the way the 2016 election turned out IRL, the show kind of feels irrelevant now. I mean, I'm not faulting the creators as nobody could have predicted Trump or the sheer lunacy of today's national political scene back when they were writing/filming this season, but it's almost like watching a funhouse mirror version of the WH where everybody at least appears to have their shit together.

naus, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I'm five or six eps in and so far, not so good.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 02:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

The Elysian Fields / Bohemian Grove episode is the worst.

AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 05:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i can't listen to his voice. maria was watching this and i always had to leave the room. in theory, a cartoon about a campy gay southern house cat with a cruel streak would sound awesome to me. and i made it through the first two seasons okay.

but, yeah, trumpworld has kinda made this show seem quaint like a revival of our town.

actually, i think that's what he reminds me of. "well, hello there, things are quiet today in grover's corners..."

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

(also robin wright is just a beautiful bore who peaked with hollywood vice squad and the princess bride. and she wasn't even that great in those. she has made about 40 movies that nobody really needs to see though. that's an accomplishment.)

scott seward, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

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