premiership worst XI nominations

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hello, this is the thread where we nominate players for ILX premiership worst XI.

nominate worst GK, defenders, midfield dudes, forwards and then they all go to a poll and then we have premiership worst XI, innit.

ken c, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

when nominating please specify their position on brackets.

e.g. Lehmann (GK)

ken c, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Massimo Taibi (GK)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Shall we get the really obvious ones out of the way first?

Alia Dia (FC)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:37 (eighteen years ago)

*Ali

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:37 (eighteen years ago)

Istvan Kozma, William Prunier (CB)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

Sean Dundee (F)

Matt, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

ANDREA SILENZI (FC)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

Djimi Traore (CB)

ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

current or all time?

paul robinson(gk)

darraghmac, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Marco Boogers, Eric Djemba Djemba (FC)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

i was thinking current would be easier as the resulting poll wouldn't be so large but folks seem to have gone with ALL TIME so we might as well do all time now!

ken c, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

nomination ends next monday, btw

ken c, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

God, Silenzi the fucking sack of shit. Didn't he score 30 goals in a Serie A season before he joined Forest or something?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

In Serie B. He was talked up as a potential great at one point, but then again so was Alvaro Recoba. Very hard to judge a player before they get found out.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

Was he worse than Romario though?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

Darren Ferguson (MC)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

Slavisa Jokanovic (CM)

Just got offed, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

franny benali (LB)

jabba hands, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

Lee Hughes (HMP)

Just got offed, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

Carlton "18 caps for England" Palmer (LW)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

Come on, who's afraid to nominate Geoff Thomas just because he's got cancer?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

Djimi Traore (CB)

You mean "Champions League Winner Djimi Traore (CB)"

Jean-Alain Boumsong (LOL CB)
Franny Jeffers (LOLOL FOXINABOX)

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

ROQUE JUNIOR

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

REBROV

blueski, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)

Geoff Thomas was pretty good for a while

DJ Mencap, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

Gordon Strachan on Claus Lundekvam: "He was carried off at Leicester and someone asked me if he was unconscious. I didn’t have a clue. That’s what he’s always like."

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

Rosario I meant further upthread obviously, not the Brazillian legend.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

I was about to mention Boumsong and Fanny Jeffers!

Better get Bosko Balaban in there as well.

ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

Robert Rosario and Marco Gabbiadini are the only two gypsies to ever play in the Premiership, right?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

(insert obligatory "He doesn't get transferred, the council just move him on" gag)

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

Freddy Eastwood is next in line.

Just got offed, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

World Cup Winner Stephane Guivarc'h (striker, allegedly)

ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

Reyes xxpost.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

Guivarc'h is the worst player I can remember turning out for a major international nation in recent memory.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

Worst Chelsea prem XI

Neil Sullivan
Christian Pannucci
Andy Myers
Fucking Bouhlarouz
Andy Dow
David Hopkin
Enrique De Lucas
Slavisa Jakanovic
Gabriel Ambrosetti
Andri Shevchenko
Mark Nicholls

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

In Italy they use the term "bidone" to describe expensive, hyped players who turn out to be absolute dreck. Famously, a popular DVD called "I Bidone" just features a picture of Paul Gascoigne on the cover.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

Of those Ambrosetti (MF), De Lucas (MF) and Nicholls (F) are all candidates for a worst XI.

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

David Hopkin

He used to do bar work in my Dad's local when he was a part timer at Morton. I remember Chelsea launching a new kit or something and he was the only one in long sleeves in the promo shots as they wanted to hide his tattoos. He's managing Port Glasgow Juniors now.

Scored for Scotland against Malta iirc.

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

He was very ginger.

Did great at Palace.

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

Taibi and Recoba were both immense when on loan at Venezia, so I can't vote for them, and Sullivan was immense when at Wimbledon. So please don't vote for any of them.

Mark C, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

Haha a GIS for him brings up a hit from the BBC with the alt text "Look away now it's David Hopkin!"

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

traore never played at centre back

Ronan, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

traore never played at centre back

Fixed

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

he played well in the CL final as far as I recall! I think he cleared off the line at one point.

definitely not bad enough for this thread, not least when Houllier bought about 10 players who were far worse.

Ronan, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

haha bruno cheyrou

Just got offed, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:36 (eighteen years ago)

First half of the CL final basically involved Traore playing everyone onside as his team mates stepped out, or stepping out as everyone else followed a ball in and leaving a huge gap. He is the main reason Milan should have been 132-0 up at H/T.

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

Comedy own goal vs Burnley = Djimi Traore ftw, also blocking one shot doesn't excuse his performance the rest of the game re Champs League final.

ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

Worst Chelsea prem XI

Neil Sullivan
Christian Pannucci
Andy Myers
Fucking Bouhlarouz
Andy Dow
David Hopkin
Enrique De Lucas
Slavisa Jakanovic
Gabriel Ambrosetti
Andri Shevchenko
Mark Nicholls

Aw come on Pete, De Lucas wasn't as bad as fucking Mario Stanic.

I'd like to see Geremi in there - totally pointless player.

Also, shite as Shevchenko is, what about Mateja Offside Kezman? Totally useless.

Was Robert Fleck pre-premiership?

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

Traore was ok when Liverpool came back into it - mainly because Milan went into Italian Defensive Mode after Liverpool scored and he was left alone for the most part.

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

Christian Gross could give Les Reed a run for his money I think.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

Avram Grant worst manager ever.

x-post Pete : That Norwich game when Beasant chucked in 3 goals was on my 30th birthday :(

Anyone remember William Prunier. He played a game for Man U on loan from some French Club - he was a centre-back. I think they got humped 4-0 or something and he was never seen again.

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.qprnet.com/images/managers/Stewart%20Houston.jpg

blueski, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

Jan Aage Fjortoft and Ade Akinbiyi upfront, maybe?

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Naylor was always shit, ails. He looks good going forwards sometimes but he can't defend to save his life.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone remember William Prunier. He played a game for Man U on loan from some French Club - he was a centre-back. I think they got humped 4-0 or something and he was never seen again.

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Istvan Kozma, William Prunier (CB)

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Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Fjortoft was GREAT. Top 10 premiership fatteys ever, easily.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Man: Mick McCarthy

onimo, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

which manager had the biggest fall from grace after moving from one 'over-achieving' side to a snoozing giant?

Mike Walker?

blueski, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

I suspect Kenny Miller is going to have the same sort of season this year as he had with Wolves too, i.e. not scoring anywhere near enough goals.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Oh good work on Prunier.

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Chairman: Robert Chase

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, as a side note, are there any members of Leeds United's relegation year side that don't qualify here?

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

Why you all make Steadinho cry?

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Dom that's a bit harsh on Alan Smith. Although Ian Harte, never did such a shit player get through so many games on being sweet with a dead ball.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Woodgate was there for part of that season yes?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://football.guardian.co.uk/Match_Report/0,1527,1208416,00.html

It's not actually THAT bad a team.

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

James Milner: remember when this guy and Wayne Rooney were spoken about in the same breath? Crazy times.

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

You know, we really need Vinnie Jones and John Fashanu in here for comedy value alone.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Alessandro Pistone (CB, LB)

I saw Vinny's Chelsea debut. Booked within about 10 seconds for a chest high two-footed lunge. Love the man!

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

Dean Holdsworth (CF).

x-post Vinny was never that bad, or at least as bad as I expected.

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, as a side note, are there any members of Leeds United's relegation year side that don't qualify here?

Mark Viduka. Unless you're still talking about premiership fatteys.

ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

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Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

No Vinny was OK.

Did Jason Dozell make Matt's Spurs worst XI? Can't be bothered to look upthread.

Mikkel Beck (reputedly Striker) Middlesborough

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

You know those really cheap crap birthday cards that no-one ever buys that are "happy birthday to a football fan" and always have ancient pictures of ugly men with bad perms and too-tight shorts jumping for a ball? I've got one of them somewhere with Terry Hurlock on it.

ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Marcelo (CB) Newcastle.

Didn't he used to post here?

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

I've got one of them somewhere with Terry Hurlock on it.

I want this item! It's like those pictures from 20 seasons ago you still see on the windows outside bookies.

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

x-post ooh Hurlock was great! There's a bloke who drinks in my local who looks just like him.

http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_football/HURLOCK_Terry_19901013_SF_R.jpg

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Pete - Gareth Hall for right-back in the Chels worst of?

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

I'm tempted to nominate Dave Beasant, if not for the all-time prem XI, the certainly between the sticks in the Chelsea team. Sullivan was bad, but only for a few games, Beasant was appalling for his whole Chelsea career.

Sullivan Beasant was immense when at Wimbledon

Mark C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

x-post to self : I meant MARCELINO.

Also what about J-A BOUMSONG!! Terrible!

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

x-post it didn't help Beasant when he had to play behind such defensive colossi as Jason Cundy and Graham Roberts.

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, he's had a mention, don't worry.

xpost re Boumsong

ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

I seem to recall Hurlock breaking the net with a shot once

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

Holy fuck, Cundy was dreadful

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

Silvi Maric, then. 'Striker', Newcastle

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I was thinking Gareth Hall but I did once see him score the winner against United.

This from a Sunderland site. 'However the signing of Gareth Hall must rank as one of the biggest mistakes of Peter Reid’s managerial career. His decision to stick with the man who was voted Chelsea’s worst ever player shortly after he arrived at Roker park was surely the biggest error of his life.'

x-post I was distraught when we sold Cundy. I wrote to the fanzines about it!

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Of the players mentioned so far, both Dozell and Jason Lee looked massively out of their depth playing for the Cobblers, let alone a Premiership team

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

The biggest error of Peter Reid's managerial career. Just think about that for one minute.

Pete W, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Can we do a fat Premiership footballers XI? Andy Reid, Neville Southall, Jan Molby, Razor Ruddock, Jan Aage Fjortoft, Frank Lampard, it'd be a cracking team.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Frank Sinclair (CB) - I kinda like him despite a decade of unparalleled shitness, starting at Chelsea. Always knocks in a few classy own goals too.

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Mickey Quinn!

That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Laurent Charvet (FB, CB) Man City and Newcastle

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

All this talk is making me want to play footie again!

Dr.C, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Put Shaun Wright-Phillips' mum in the Fatteys XI as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

Per Kroldrup (it was after he was seen at Bellefield "practising his heading" - in a fairly basic "this part of your head, Per lad" kinda way - that we knew Moyes had signed someone purely for the five-a-sides). Oh, and Andy van der Meyde. Though I s'pose you'd need some actual evidence of him playing a few Premiership games to warrant consideration. Did get sent off in a derby which is always great.

There were plenty of Everton players from the mid-'90s who were worse but I've sort of erased that era from my memory.

Michael Jones, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

Jean Michel Ferri. In Fowler's book he says he reckons Ferri was bought solely as a spy for Houllier.

x-post let me jog it for you Michael, Hottiger, Bakayoko, Pistone, Brett Angell!

Ronan, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think you can have Prunier, there's not enough to go on. He only played in two games in two days: he played well in one game (which United won) and badly the other (which they lost). Before he turned up United had only won one in six games, so it's not like he had any significant impact.

I was going to nominate Brolin, but someone's got in there before me.

It kind of depends if we're talking about genuine lack of ability (in which case I'm sure there plenty of rubbish Barnsley, Swindon, Bradford, Wolves, etc. players that we've forgotten about) or expensive signings arriving with big reputations and completely failing to deliver (I'm thinking Jeffers, Veron and Shevchenko).

For Man Utd I'd say Darren Ferguson, Jordi Cruyff, David May (until he was allowed to play in the middle), Massimo Taibi, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Liam Miller, Kleberson, and David Bellion.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 19 October 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

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Chris Waddle's daughter gets pissy on Facebook

Dom Passantino, Friday, 19 October 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Earl Barrett (FB) Everton

Lynskey, Sunday, 21 October 2007 10:13 (eighteen years ago)


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