http://internetvibes.blogspot.com/2005/11/post-hippie-domesticity_11.html
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)
O HEY MOM AND DAD
― max, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 05:19 (eighteen years ago)
i didnt know this was an unexamined phenomenon? it basically describes 95% of the (white, middle-class) people between 40 and 60 in princeton where i grew up.
― max, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 05:20 (eighteen years ago)
incl. my folks. my dad is a creative director and even HAS A BEARD. and my mom works for a non-profit.
my dad totally looked like michael gross/squid and the whale jeff daniels in the '80s. i have pictures to prove it.
― get bent, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 06:16 (eighteen years ago)
It isn't just domesticity, it is entwined with ideas about land, about the countryside - the hippie (late 60s) phase of this generation coinciding with (still) an urban decade, concerns of personal freedom, rebellion, sticking it to the man etc, but the post-hippie phase really coinciding with a move away from that, coinciding with economic uncertainty, and environmental worry - which could really tie in with ideas about getting away from the city, living the simple life
I guess the children of these parents coincided with a period where environmental concerns were pushed back into the background, the cyclical nature of things.
― cedar, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 09:16 (eighteen years ago)
the comment abt beards/forests and hippie masculinity is genius. plz note I have never bearded or stached.
― m coleman, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)
well not counting the invisible blond/fuzz mustaches my friend matt and I grew in high school
― m coleman, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 10:03 (eighteen years ago)
I kind of thought this was old news/taken for granted by now (even the blog post is from 2005).
Maybe with hindsight we can see that post-hippie domesticity is far less surprising when you consider that for every full-fledged hippie or raging 60s radical (which are not the same thing), there were probably 50-100 people on the periphery of those cultures who incorporated some of the ideas but never really imagined they were forging an alternative to traditional adulthood (or never more than vaguely entertained the idea). My parents certainly looked like they were of their time, read some of the right books and incorporated some of the popular ideas, but I don't think they ever seriously thought they wouldn't settle down, have kids, take out a mortgage, etc.
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)
What about those Will Ferrell and Ratchel Dratch professor characters that always say the word "luvah" in some kind of weird Kate Hepburn accent, where do they fit in? (Sorry, couldn't find an image)
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)
Also, maybe when Elvis made that comment about "bands like the Beatles and the Beards" he was onto something.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)
Oh man, my mom totally makes fun of me for listening to the Incredible String Band. Is that part of the vibe?
― s. morris, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)
This weekend I was glowing because I found a copy of The Big Huge that looked like it had never been played. My mom was all "Yeah, that's because it probably used to be mine."
PWNED by mom.
― s. morris, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)
the linked post is virtually contentless
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)
tracer 8080, someone please draft legislation requiring mandatory blogging licenses
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)
Compared to the post gabb linked on the worldbeat indie renaissance thread, it's a font of insight
( http://internetvibes.blogspot.com/2006/02/prep-osterous.html )
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
tracer is not feeling the vibe
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)
I'm feeling that this kid has a lot to say about nothing
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)
okay now i see (feel)
― youn, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)
my dad was a mod in the 60s, so when everybody started cutting their hair and ditching the flares in the 80s he was like "about fucken time, fellas!"
― pc user, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)
Aw that last Whole Earth catalog pic is so sad. : ( Bye whole earth! Pouring 96 tears and a 40 for you, man.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)
i just think this is some of the most awesomely circular thinking ever:
Have you ever met a total middle-aged hippie? Still driving the VW bus, still wearing tie-dye, probably doesn't have any kids, never got a "real" job. Try to imagine one...Now imagine the most tight-ass, corporate dad you've ever met. He wouldn't even wear sandals on the weekends. He's kind of racist. He listens to CD 101.9 and may not know who Jerry Garcia is.OK, now imagine the adult/parent in between these two extremes: it's most of them!http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/856/1336/400/bellcurve.png
Now imagine the most tight-ass, corporate dad you've ever met. He wouldn't even wear sandals on the weekends. He's kind of racist. He listens to CD 101.9 and may not know who Jerry Garcia is.
OK, now imagine the adult/parent in between these two extremes: it's most of them!
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/856/1336/400/bellcurve.png
and yes he includes the graph.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:15 (eighteen years ago)
That damn bell curve! It explains so much, yet so little.
― moley, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:20 (eighteen years ago)
why don't indie girls protest loss of womanhood? or is simon reynolds's sack story a myth?
― youn, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)
-- pc user, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 00:03 (3 hours ago) Link
I love the image of your dad yelling this as a 43-year-old mod
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 03:06 (eighteen years ago)