"Prize Redemption Center"

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Today I received a postcard from "NDI Redemption Center" with a claim number on it an a phone number that I had to "call within 24 hours of receipt". Well, they used a real stamp and everything, so I thought it might be a little more than junk mail. I call the place and it turns out that if I go to a conferance room at a local hotel and listen to a 45-minute spiel of them trying to sell me discounted stuff direct from manufacturers (no way in hell that's happening, by the way), I'm "guaranteed" to get a computer, a vacation in the bahamas, a condo package, a color TV, or... a gift card from the company itself. I can already see where this is going, but do you think it's worth the 45 minutes of my time anyway? Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? should I go? advise me please.

Dan I, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

go anyway, sign nothing, and ask questions that are very personal, like how owuld this benift someone with inflamed hemorroids. tehy will give you free shit just to get you outta there

Queen G, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I certainly will not sign anything. Stupidly, I already gave them my e-mail address, but I figure I post it on here everyday, and how much can some more spam hurt (shuddering with dread at what I've just set myself up for).

And I do plan on making as much of an ass of myself as possible. Shouldn't be that hard, and these guys' techniques seem shady, to say the least, so I'm sure they deserve it. I wonder if I can do my homework while I'm there?

Also, it seems unlikely this is some elaborate scam like "The Spanish Prisoner" (Mamet fucking sucks.); and even if it is, I really don't have that much to lose. Unless they're going to frame me for murder or something, hmm... that would be bad.

Dan I., Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

not that bad if you got a free tele

QUeen G, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Stay away. There is NO WAY you will come away from it with anything worth your while. These things are not designed that way; they are designed so that they either waste your time or empty your wallet.

Douglas, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Well, did you go to it and get anything? I got the same thing in the mail,just wondering if it actually got you anything.

CP, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

isn't this the main way clevah policemen catch dim crims?

mark s, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

only heard about this re: Timeshare scams, but guess it can be extended to teevees etc. anyway, the outcome of the Timeshare one was some very expensive holidays indeed. don't go! (if you haven't already)

michael, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I've just recieved one of these NDI Cards. They've been in this business for over 20 years.

Here's an article I found: http://www3.baylor.edu/Lariat/Archives/1997/19970321/14_dfk.html

Good luck people.

Sam Jones, Saturday, 1 June 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I got the same postcard in the mail today (Austin, TX). Looks like it might be sweeping the country. Anyhoo, it's a good thing I checked the web, but then again, I do that everytime I suspect a scam. The one time a possible scam didn't show up -- I actually had won a real, bonafide contest: a free computer. Go figure.

Adam Sowalsky, Thursday, 25 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Well, I'm from Austin, too, and I just received one of them and I'm glad to see that other people try to check this thing out as well. I'm skeptical about the whole thing, and I think I'm just going to call it off. Besides, it's summer midterm time, and I certainly don't have 45 minutes to listen to a bunch of b.s. (not counting the time it would take to drive to this place, etc.) Maybe I'll change my mind by the end of the day, but I doubt it. Thanks for the advice.

Jeremiah Johnson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four months pass...
Thanks for the info guys! I'm from Fort Worth and I just got one of the cards in the mail. You definitely saved me some time. :)

Bonnye Sanders, Saturday, 14 December 2002 16:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

shcok horror skandal - ILX helps strangers, does not demand payment or sexual favours in return.

Queen G (Queeng), Saturday, 14 December 2002 16:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Though we would quite like some sexual favours, obviously.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 14 December 2002 18:03 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I received the same NDI card too in mail (Tallahassee), I was wondering what the hell was that, i am glad i check this site out,'cause now i have an idea of how much that might cost me.

Patrick C

Patrick C, Tuesday, 21 January 2003 20:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

well whaddya know? Strike Gainesville Fl up as another NDI infested city! Im not gonna even bother calling, screw it...
im not one to look things up on the internet, but once i got the card in the mail today, jan 22, i decided to do some research. thanks for posting dudes

Chad C, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hey Mount Pleasant MI here. Got the card today on 23 january and do not intend to call primarily due to the research I did. The company is called Network Direct Inc. and they have a website, www.networkdirectinc.com. If you go there ou find they are a telemarketing site that " has successfully managed close to $100 million in call center outsourcing business since its inception" This does not sound like anything but a very elaborate scam. Do the homework its all there.

Kevin S, Thursday, 23 January 2003 22:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Just got the same thing in the mail in Radford VA. Has anyone actually gone to one of their "meetings" to see how big a load of bull they are actualy trying to sell? Or are they possibly trying to recruit new telemarketers like they do in all college towns.

Jon O, Friday, 24 January 2003 21:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I went to the meeting today. they seem to check out ok the guy that gave the presentation gave the number to the better bussiness bureau and said to call them if we wanted to.by the way the site www.networkdirectinc.com. is for a differnt company the correct site is http://www.networkdirect.com./

Shawn, Saturday, 25 January 2003 22:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Whilst they might be above board (I know nothing about this company), suggesting that people can check them out in a place that people already know they can use for that purpose is common practice for companies that know that hardly anyone will make the call, and most will take the apparent confidence as proof that they are above board. If you are thinking of having anything to do with them, do make the call.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 25 January 2003 22:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Take a potato bazooka with you,and threaten to give 'em a taste of Spud-U-Don't-Like if you don't get a free telly.

Eugene Speed (Eugene Speed), Saturday, 25 January 2003 22:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
They just made their way to Lubbock, Texas. I just got the card about two hours ago and I think I am going to call tomarrow. If I have time I might go to the meeting just for a good laugh. I am really curious how they could benefit someone with inflammed hemorroids. I'll let yall know how everything went. Dont try and email me cause I just gave you some other guys address. This guy must hate me by now. :)

Roland Hernandez, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
mark down Carbondale, Illinois- home of the SIU Salukis as yet another NDI target market.

Laura, Thursday, 23 October 2003 18:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 23 October 2003 19:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
After reading the messages above, I tossed that invitation in the trash. I have better things to do with my time than letting some shady salesman try to lure me with a cheap TV.

Martin Szakodyn, Friday, 7 November 2003 03:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Everyone's posts above have been helpful, but is there anyone who actually went to the meeting and went through with the program? It seems like most just threw the card in the trash. My boyfriend went to a meeting last night and got sucked in, so now I'm doing my best to check it out so he doesn't end up broke. I checked out the Better Business Bureau and they check out there. We also called the company and checked out their prices vs. prices in a Crutchfield catalog (stereo and entertainment equipment). Every price the receptionist gave us was at lead a few hundred or more below the prices listed in the catalog. I'm a natural skeptic so I want to research this the best I can before he gets really involved with the company. By the way, the meeting was at NDSU in Fargo.

Nicole Anderson, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 14:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hey Nicole, how is it working out for your boo? What is the program about, do you have to pay a fee or sell stuff for them or what? I got the card today and was considering calling if I could find out anything about htem before tommorrow. Seems like mostly speculation though. BTW, Im in Lawrence, Kansas, and I was up at Fargo a few weeks ago, good place. :)

Andrea Stwa, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 02:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I just got one of the NDI Prize craps (Gainesville FL; UF)... Anyway, what's ironic about it is that my consumer behavior professor was just talking about these in class within the past week. It reminds me of the southpark episode where the families get "free" condos and are forced to spend all their time at propotional events with the condo company. These are obviously not worth anything; just look at how many of you received them! Also, they are targeted at us college students, that should tell you that just about anyone else wouldn't bother replying. Another thing to watch out for are fake posts from people (rogue agents for the company) claiming it worked out for them... people actually get paid for this (actors walked around with the picture phone and asked people to take pictures of them to create buzz for their new product). Well NDI, you wasted a 23cent on stamp on me, cuz I'm not buyin it. Take Care all

Go Gators, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 16:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i had no idea what this thread was about, my browser took me straight to the new message.... and i was like, wow, did i just stumble on the Attention Deficit Thread? awesome! but then... it's not.

possible m (mandinina), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This site looks like it is filled with a bunch of Close Minded Mama's Boys. What are you afraid of? I got the card at SFA in East Texas. I went to presentation won a week Condo Stay and purchased their service and it has worked great. The company has done this since 1971 and has hundreds of thousands of clients across the country. They do check out with the BBB. It is not a perfect service, but it does what they say it does! Here is some of what I have used it for:

32" Sony Flat Screen HDTV.
Best Buy's Price= $1600 + tax

Leather Couch, Loveseat, and Chair by Ashley.
Castleberry's "Back to School Blowout Price" = $2100+tax+$65 delivery

Ping I-3 golf irons
The Fairways Golf Shop = $1200

Samsung Surround Sound System
Best Buy's Price = $652

Cocoamotion by Mr. Coffee
Linens and Things= $49 + tax

July 4th in the Park City, Utah area. NDI got us 3 condos that could sleep 30 people and were very spacious with full kitchens, private hot tubs, saunas, one had a pool table in it!
Normal Price for the summer = $2170 + $2800 +$2170 = $7140
They were managed by High Mountain Properties, you can go to their website and check them out for yourself:

This company does a great job! I gave you difference totals around $2000 not including the $4578 difference on that ONE vacation! You get to use this service forever!!!

I hope these personal examples help better than some idiots who just through their card in the trash!

phil moore (crazy phil), Thursday, 11 December 2003 07:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This is so strange, because I got one of those cards as well. I am in Colorado. My old roommate bought into the deal. She did not use it as much as that Phil guy, but we have taken some fun trips for a lot less! I guess I will probably go in to the presentation. I am not sure if I will buy into it, but it seems like it works, so I will see. Thanks for the info Crazy Phil.

Tara (Tara), Thursday, 11 December 2003 08:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

why this is so weird, because you 2 guys have, like the same IP address! what a coincidence! i wonder if this we be as succesful as the emails which get sent straight into my junk folder that i never get a chance to read.

will you post again with a different name? i hope so!

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 11 December 2003 08:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, so I never went. There's no such thing as a free lunch. No offense Phil, but I doubt it could be more obvious that you actually work for the company.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 11 December 2003 08:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 11 December 2003 09:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

You guys are so cool! Phil is my friend who is visiting me here in Colorado. He asked me to post what I know, but he does NOT work for that company. He just thought it was funny that everyone on the post was basically shooting it down, and none of them had even gone to the presentation. It is not free to use their service either.

Tara (Tara), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Isn't Texas filled with a bunch of Close Minded Mama's Boys?

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Good Point Dean! Although Phil is from Texas! LOL!

Tara (Tara), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:08 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

man, i can't wait for Epic/Legacy to reissue all those old Close Minded Mama's Boys sides. their version of "Long Black Veil" sends CHILLS down the spine, i tells ya!

El Santo Claus (Kingfish), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

This company is fantastic! I went to their presentation and joined up immediately! Here are some examples of things I got:

32" Sony Flat Screen HDTV.

Small monkey

Decemberists CD

Lifetime supply of cat food

Sex change, MTF

Sex change, FTM

Small monkey (alive)

Enemy's head on plate

Trip back in time, 500 years

Hentai porn DVDs

As you can see, this is a fabulous deal. You should all join up.

Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Friday, 12 December 2003 01:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink


Flex Kavannah (Ferg), Friday, 12 December 2003 01:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I'm following up to my previous post (Nov.19) My boyfriend did join the service and I just ordered from it for the first time - A Coach purse (Reg. price $168 NDI price $136.11). It will be here in a week or two and I'll let you know how it goes :)

Nicole Anderson, Thursday, 22 January 2004 20:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I just got one of those post cards today, and I think it's a scam...no matter what people say about it. I'm going to do some quick research, I saw a link online that mentioned NDI Redemption Center was a scam, so I'll check that out. It all sounds too good to be true.

H. H., Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

OK, here is the link to the website with NDI Redemption Center listed as a scam: "Harold's List of Scams" http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/scams/ndi/ There is a link on that page to an article about NDI, and there is a picture of the actual postcard...notice the stamp...that's the same exact stamp that was on mine, and if I remember correctly, the postcard in the picture is dated 2002...maybe 2003.
See for yourselves.

H.H., Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I received a card recently and went to the presentation in Austin, TX. I won a 8 day, 7 night condo, its not completely free, you still have to pay $49.00, but thats it. The service seems to be pretty legitimate, although it is 1500 to sign up.

Hope that helps coming from someone who actually went to the presentation.

Stephen, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 01:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Valdosta, Ga here. I just got a shiny new card in the mail, with a real stamp and a postmark and everything. Instead of calling them, I think I may frame it (I don't get much mail)...although the possibilities are endless....anyway, thanks for the info, guys.

Bill H, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 17:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I love that there's a product called "Cocoamotion"

That's all, really.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Add Macomb, Illinois to the list. I went to the meeting. I DID NOT research it on-line. I paid for the membership like the dumb-ass that I can be. I spent a couple of days "experimenting" with their service, but every corner had another added fee or some other sort of obstacle. Now I have looked at other people's oppinions on-line and have found nothing to the positive (except for Phil and Tara who obviously work for the company). Even the Sex change, MTF
(NDI DELIVERED = $750) ended up being located in the Australian outback (transportation not included). So, I sent in my cancellation notice today (within three days like they asked for). I have read about other people having a hard time getting the company to honor their cancelation. I will post again when I see what happens.

Chap Harbecke, Saturday, 27 March 2004 19:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just got one in the mail today. I did a goodle search and the pictures on the first site looked like the exact card...same stamp and everything. I'm in waco tx... i'm not going.. last time I went to one of these scams was from winning something at a bridal extravaganza and said it was no more than 90 minutes.. I stayed there for 3 hours! they stood by the door and didn't let anyone out.

Ann Le, Sunday, 28 March 2004 18:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah I just got one of these in San Marcos, TX. I called right away and when someone says free stuff there is no such thing as free so I decided to research it online. This is so much crap it sounds like. That picture on that site is exactly like mine and that picture was taken 2 years ago. They don't even make the same stamps today that they made 2 years ago so obviously the company bought millions of them years ago and they are lucky a postage stamp is still 23 cents. I told the company I was going but there is no way in hell I am. I am way too busy and I certainly don't have 1500 dollars to spend on some crappy service that I don't have the money to buy anything from anyway. I'm a poor college student and this whole thing is annoying and rediculous.

RJM, Monday, 29 March 2004 21:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Im going tommorrow at 4pm..Ill tell you guys how it went..

Tony Orellana, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 15:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Syracuse, NY here, got one in the mail. No way I'd ever call one of these things, if you're really a winner of anything expect someone at the front door. If not, you're a sucker.

DE, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 21:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Is it wrong to occasionally think that stupid people deserve to be taken advantage of?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 21:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dear Moderators, please retitle this thread as "Stupid People Say They Darnedest Things!"

Speedy (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 09:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hey Ya'll, Great Falls, S.C. here, although we call it great bALLS! haha! Well I got one of these cards and I can't tell you how xcited we are! Me and Darleen just have to put a bigg screen and a dvd in our bedroom 'cause watching the Nascar gets her motor really running if you all know what I mean! I can't tell you what it does to her sistar Marleen because I might get caught, haha. well I got to go because my mom wants to looks up some recipes for tofu because she got a case of it at the fleamarket on saterday and wants us to start using it and we dont know how amd this is her computer sinse D and I are living here untill my insurance comes thru. I am also studying to be a data entry technician thru a corse What do you guys think of them ? Ok bye now and thanks!

number 3 4ever (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

hey ya'll I just fell asleep with a cigarete in my hand and set my hair on fire. Boy D is MAD! sHE says it stinks ok bye again

number 3 4ever (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 10:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wow, I just received one in the Atlanta area. I guess the Texas crowd feels that as a "transplanted" Johnny Reb I'm smart enough to buy from them. I was wondering where I could get a good deal on some cotton seeds cause I want to plant something in my back yard that looks pretty but dogwood trees have been suffering blight in this area.

Or maybe since the center is in TX, they can help me with a lifetime supply of "Texas Pete" hot sauce for only $1,500 plus product cost?

If they're legit, let me know immediately (or sooner if you can get the time machine started.) I've only got 23 hours and 42 minutes left on my "Please call" limit.

Thanks for the thread. It saved me from helping some pushy salesman learn what his mother does for a living.

Bor Nasucker, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 20:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Looks like they're sending them to the Daytona Beach area, too. I hate people who send me spam mail...especially since they bought my info from SOMEONE who should be tortured until they finally get the answers as to how the products will help inflammed hemorroids. And then tortured more.

satan_in_a_trashbag, Friday, 2 April 2004 06:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hey guys, I got one of the post cards as well here at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. I had a blonde moment and got excited and called the number. I am signed up to go tonight at 9:30. I even told the lady who answered the phone that this sounded too good to be true and she replied back with "well, yeah...we get that alot (laugh)." This may sound dumb...but I'm kinda torn b/c I really want to win something. But if this is all a scam (which it prob. is) I don't want to go. I don't see how they can charge you anything unless you give them a credit card number. They also want me to bring my drivers license. I'm kinda worried about goin...I think I might ask a guy friend to go b/c I don't think they would harrass a man like they would a chick. Please reply and give me some advice.
P.S. the email is not my real email..so just reply back with comments please. Thanks!

Hollar to the Midwest : ), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 19:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You do win a prize, but only if you don't go! The prize you win is you get to keep all your money.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 19:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

hahaha, thanks so much for that inspiring message...Yeah, I don't think I'll be attending. It just seems to good to be true, and Lord knows I don't have the money to afford any memberships. I barely have enough cash to buy myself a 12 pack of Diet Pepsi...haha (well, ok, I do have enough for that...but thats off the subject) thanks for replying man!

hollar to the midwest, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 19:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yep, just got mine today (Atlanta, GA).

The postcard is dated 1989! Interestingly, it came with another shady-looking money magnet letter. It's from "Saint Matthews Churches" (Scam Report: http://www.loper.org/~george/trends/2003/Apr/815.html) and seems to prey on the faithful's wallets. I guess these things like traveling together :D.

ZenZagg, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 01:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


An article telling more about the NDI thing.

ZenZagg, Wednesday, 14 April 2004 01:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yo, Peepps, sup? Welll\ since I talked at ya'll I had some bad news. Darlene saw that stuff abouy her sister and shit om me bad. Man I was sleeping in the storage shed fo' ever until I went to that meeting. IT ROCKED> I mean I am going to get big discounts on all kinds of shit now! Like I can get a wine rack for only like $9.00 and it would be 75.00 in a store. It will hold really big bottles, too. I'm hoping that D. is impressed by this and the leather chairs I will get too. She hasn't spoken to me for along time now and I got some kind of sick when I saw her at the Kum and Go. Shewas reading magizines and talking to Marlene and acted like she didn't even see me. Marelne did tho and she looked HOTTT! butt I didn't even smile at her because I was to sick thinking about what happenwd and all. Well soon my $1550 check will clear and I am looking foward to starting to be able to get a good deal on some good shit and I will get my life on track. I can't wait! BTW my hair is growing back where I burned it and shit, but then I cut the top of my foot off when i was mowing D.'s Mom's yard. It didn't hurt much since I was real drunk when it happened, now it does tho.

number 3 4ever (Speedy Gonzalas), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 07:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh. My. God. Who put the 'stealth' in 'marketing'?

Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 09:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Liz, note who did the login on that post there...

Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hey, all, I just got the postcard in the mail (Springfield, MO). I'm just curious now, b/c I've heard of all these people who've gotten them and didn't go, or those who claimed they were going and would post about it, but never followed through with it. I'm going tomorrow at 4, and will not buy anything (seriously, I have to "donate" plasma to afford my beer at this point, no way can I sign up for some $1000 club!). Will try to remember to let you all know how it goes

Kristin, Monday, 19 April 2004 19:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna go to that stupid meeting tomorrow and before they feed me any b.s., I'm gonna tell them to show me my prize and let me hold it before I hear any fuckin presentation! And I'm not gonna give them any money or sign up for anything, since that guy on the phone said there are no obligations. If they don't give me my home computer, condo package, or whatever the hell it is, then I'll just tell them to suck my balls and rip up his stupid presentation material

Billy Bob, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm just a little upset because I am going to school so its not like I have any money and by the sound of it, this is a big scam. So I would appeciate it if these assholes sent there shit mail to their own friends and relatives, not broke college students who are BUSY, if its such a good deal!!!

Billy Bob, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
My husband signed up for this before he met me. I would have talked him out of doing it, because it has all the markings of a scam. I have to admit though, he did get a great price on a trip to florida and his dad saved about $1000 while remodeling his house. I'm still not convinced we'll get enough out of it to ever make it worth the money, but he's already paid too much on it to be worth trying to back out.

It's not a "take your money and run" scam, but you have to buy a lot of stuff through their service to make it worth what they charge.

Elizabeth Johnson, Monday, 8 November 2004 15:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Just got my BRAND NEW postcard today from 1989!! It is still origional with the stamp and everything, maybe I could sell it on ebay as "vintage". Maybe they will run out of their stock someday!Anyway, it sounds like it is a big time scam, I dont think I could make it worth all the money I would have to stick into it!! Tata all

Arielle Ehli, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

same thing here in Colorado

Shaun RObinson, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 23:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The NDI disease has made its way across the city of Tulsa, Oklahoma. In fact I just sneezed.... NDI bastards.

JuJuBees, Wednesday, 1 December 2004 07:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That stamp is a keeper...
I am just wondering how it can be verified that I call within 24 hours after receiving this card. Card which btw seems to have been stored asif it really is the treasure they hold it out to be (must have been printed a while ago and still didn t turn yellow!).
I can understand NDI would prefer not to hold a meeting everyday in a town like Gainesville, FL and would therefore set a time limit, but this is a very cheap way of doing it. But that seems to be this company's key competency! CHEAPNESS
Liked the comment about the Cocoamotion by Mr. Coffee...even more creative than this marketing campaign! (and that s difficult!)

Enjoy the cheap stuff people! Give NDI another quarter of a century!

Lommer DeBom, Thursday, 2 December 2004 05:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Fucking weird.

%#, Thursday, 2 December 2004 05:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
I gotta say I agree with Elizabeth. I posted earlier about my boyfriend being in NDI. We've used it for a few things and saved some money. Conclusion: it's not a scam, but like Elizabeth said, you'd have to buy a lot of stuff to make it worth the money.

Nicole Anderson, Friday, 24 December 2004 05:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
Wow, I got one of the cards too, and I live in Mississippi. The meeting is tonight, if I go I will let y'all know whats up

Jocelyn Ashley, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 19:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I received the infamous card in the mail yesterday, and attended a presentation today. The only actually "free" thing I received was a 3-day / 2 night stay at any holiday inn express.... not bad for attending a presentation. I did "win" the bahamas trip, but apparently this deal is available to the public as well (it's not a FREE trip)... Anyway, since there is a 7-day cancellation policy at no obligation (even your down payment is refunded) and their deal was "only valid for one day" I signed up just to still have the option of joining after consulting my parents... I gave them everything... debit card #, SS# (for the credit APP), etc... THEN, I came home and researched the company. After reading the reviews here, I decided to go back and cancel in person (since some posts say there have been issues with cancellation). The presenter gave me back my filled-out forms although he had already submitted my name/address/phone# over the internet earlier. He assured me that my social security # and debit card# hadn't been submitted at all. Anyway, he gave me all copies of the forms back and seemed very cooperative. He even signed a document I had handwritten stating that he would cancel my membership immediately. All that remains (just for EXTRA EXTRA measure) is to snail-mail the cancellation request and request delivery confirmation. IF YOU ARE CANCELLING THIS MEMBERSHIP, BE SURE TO REQUEST DELIVERY CONFIRMATION FROM THE POST OFFICE. This probably isn't a scam, but since they had my SS# and CC# and I'm paranoid I didn't want to wait and find out. Plus, who wants to pay $38/mo for 5 years while they're in college?

Anyway, I'm sure there would have been a great deal of hidden fees if I were to try to take advantage of their services. Most products I searched for didn't actually have much discount, to tell you the truth... Oh, and by the way, you have to be a member just to CHECK prices... Ok, you've all had enough. Hope this helps.

K Mac, Saturday, 19 February 2005 23:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

My wife bought the membership 8 years ago before we were married and it has been okay. We used the travel service and bought a few small things. We really don't buy many things and would be willing to sell our membership if anyone's interested.

Kent White, Wednesday, 2 March 2005 21:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I just received the card a couple days ago and attended the metting. I received the holiday inn stay and bahama vacation/cruise as did many others. I havn't signed, but it does sound like something worthwhile for those who intend on making future purchases.

Josh Batt, Saturday, 5 March 2005 01:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i like how this thread is now almost nothing but spam posts by the scam perpetrators.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

no shit! I think I'm gonna ask the mods to delete it, if they still do that kind of thing. Beyond that it's just all scammers now, it has my full name in it.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 5 March 2005 09:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I went to this presentation and won the lottery, got a beautiful new girlfriend, and a promotion at my job...not that I needed it after winning the lottery!

My best friend Larry threw the card out, though. He lost his job, his girlfriend dumped him, his dog got run over, and he got arrested for cable theft!

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 6 March 2005 00:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It's getting to be well into 2005, and the folks at NDI, now the "University Award Center", are still going strong. Add Terre Haute, IN to the list and chalk up another dark day for decent marketing.

J.P., Monday, 7 March 2005 22:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I went to this presentation, and on my way out I got invited onto the Bangbus!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 March 2005 22:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
They've managed to make their way up to Duluth, MN. My girlfriend's roommates got one a few days ago, and one of them signed up last night. I got a postcard in the mail today and happened to ask one if they had too. She said "yeah, 'Jodie' and I went last night and she signed up for it." Well, after finding out that this whole thing is a scam, 'Jodie' is frantically trying to cancel her membership. After reading this page and several other sites about this company, I'd say toss anything you get from them in the trash.

UMD BULLDOG, Thursday, 14 April 2005 03:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Just got a postcard here at Notre Dame. Actually, they sent it to the girl who used to live here. She doesn't have time to go and I showed her this site too but I'll be going. I did tell her about the hotel.

Not taking any credit card with me my cousin signed for this kind of thing last year

Since the bus goes there anyway and hey, maybe I could get a stay at the Holiday Inn so I'll go. Is there some kind of raffle or something. The rep says more people go to the 2pm vs. 11 am session so if there is a raffle I'll make the effort to wake up for the 11 am session. If someone who went to the meeting (I swear I won't sign up for anything) could email me and tell me if there is a raffle, that would be great. Thanks

RP ND, Friday, 15 April 2005 23:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

there is a ROFFLE

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 16 April 2005 02:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I still piss myself at my drunken cleverness.

saltbox and a rubber ball (Speedy Gonzalas), Saturday, 16 April 2005 07:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

My favorite thing about this thread is how everyone announces where they're posting from. It feels like I'm watching Larry King Live.

The Yellow Kid, Saturday, 16 April 2005 16:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh man. i completely forgot about that Epic/Legacy joke. that was a surpisingly good one from me.

kingfish maximum overdrunk (Kingfish), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

UMass Amherst here. Just got my NDI card qith the vintage George Washington stamp today. I called and was intantly written in to the book of broke college suckers. Decided to go to the meeting tomorrow even though I am no loner intrigued by the prospect of winning something, however I am interested in seeing the scam for myself. Anyways, I'll let you all know what happens.

Bujambus Maximus, Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Now you see, you are all just being so negative. For some of us, purchasing an NDI membership has been a wonderful experience, and I am very happy that I got "duped" into making this purchase.

At first I was upset that I made this purchase, but then just a month after I purchased my membership, a friend of mine said, "Let's go to Vegas!" Well, through my membership we were able to book a big ass room for six people for something like $400 for the week. So, for the week in Vegas all of us paid only $70 each. Then, when I got married my wife and I were able to go on a crazy awesome honeymoon - one week on the beach in Miami ($200 for the room for the week) followed by one week on the beach in the Virgin Islands ($200 for the room for the week) followed by a week on the beach in Cancun ($200 for the room for the week). On that trip alone, the hotels we stayed at in Miami and the Virgin Islands were $150/night, so we saved $1600 there and our hotel was regularly $100/night in Cancun, so we saved $500 there. All told, just in hotel rooms on our honeymoon we saved $2100, which more than covered our $1500 membership fee.

This past year, over Christmas break, we again spent a week on the beach in Miami (same hotel, same $800 savings for the week), followed by a week in Orlando ($200 for the week) at a place that usually costs $100/night (for another $500 savings for the week). Thus, on our trip this past winter, we saved anther $1300. Looks like we're at a total of $3400 saved, for only our $1500 membership.

What's the matter? Don't believe me that it really is possible to get a quality hotel room at a good price? Just check out the company's website for yourself - www.networkdirect.com and click on the "Expressways" link. Alternatively you can use this link:

As of this posting here are the first three listings from this page:

NDI66781 Destination: CANCUN (MX) Price: $199.00 Duration: 7/16/2005 to 7/23/2005
A Efficiency max 2 at IMPERIAL FIESTA CLUB
Last Updated: 7/6/2005 1:42:00 PM

NDI56006 Destination: KIHEI, MAUI (HI) Price: $199.00 Duration: 7/9/2005 to 7/16/2005
A 1 Bedroom max 4 at ASTON MAUI BANYAN
Last Updated: 7/6/2005 1:42:00 PM

NDI59695 Destination: NUEVO VALLARTA ((N/A)) Price: $199.00 Duration: 7/9/2005 to 7/16/2005
Last Updated: 7/6/2005 1:42:00 PM

You will never stay at a five-star hotel through NDI, but they will put you in a quality hotel in a prime vacation spot for very little money. The listings for their expressways are pretty slim as of today (because it's the middle of the summer and prime vacation time), but check back in the middle of the fall or in the spring and they'll often have 15 to 20 pages of these week long resort stays available for only $200-$300.

In addition to the money I've saved myself, I've used my membership to get a room in Hawaii for my parents, reserved a room at a good price for a friend and his wife who when they went to France, and got a free hotel room for a week in Solana Beach, California.

This last part is something that has been forgotten by almost everyone that has been bitching about wasting their money on an NDI membership - when you buy your membership (for $1200 or $1500 or whatever you spent - I spent $1500) they give you a coupon that is good for a free week at any of their resorts. How many of those people who bitched even bothered to remember to use their free week of vacation? I bought my membership more than two years ago, and I have two things to say about the membership:

1) I love having the membership


2) the membership is only worthwhile if you have money and buy expensive things/travel

If you plan on being a broke-ass college student for your whole life, don't buy a membership. If you plan on making your first million by the time you're out of your out of your twenties (and don't tell me it can't be done - here are a just a handful of jobs in which you can make hundreds of thousands a year at a young age: stockbroker, mortgage broker, investment banker, entrepreneur, currency trader - there are so many jobs out there that will let a person who is motivated make a ton of money, but most people don't have the guts to take a risk. When I finished my MBA I got the lowest paying job in my entire graduating class $12K a year (all my classmates were laughing at me like crazy) to be a stockbroker. In no time I was making $20K a MONTH, and I've now moved to investment banking where I have a base salary in excess of $400K with bonuses that usually outweigh my base salary. Not bad for someone who finished last in his class as a graduate and an undergrad at state school).

Giovanni Ascolese, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 18:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Your name is an anagram of "a coniving assole e".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 18:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink


no tech! (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 18:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm going to quit my job and become an "entrepreneur."

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 18:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'd stay in nice hotels with that kind of salary. I also wouldn't go to fucking Miami.

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 21:44 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Well, shit I wanted to be a millionaire too. Where do I sign up?

larry bundgee (bundgee), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 21:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

These things are showing up now here in Carson, MD (go Owls!) and I was ready to throw mine in the trash, but I gave it a shot and this thing is 100% for real. How am I doing so far? 2 free laptops and a beachfront condo for my mom. You cannot beat this shit!

Stam Murspeed, Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

it does seem odd that someone making $800k+/yr would be honeymooning in cancun and miami. different strokes i guess.

dan (dan), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 22:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah guy, your annual salary of ~$800,000 is about $2190 a day, so subtract that from your NDI savings of $3400 and you've only saved $1210. :(

larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

it does seem odd that someone making $800k+/yr would be honeymooning in cancun and miami. different strokes i guess.

Middlebrow trash.

(are these guys for real?)

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 7 July 2005 00:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
I hope if you are in N.C. and you got one of these postcards, you read this thread. I called and was going to go, but I agree with the last few above...if that "Giovanni" guy makes that much $, he wouldn't need to be involved in this in the first place and also wouldn't mind splurging on a 4 star hotel for a honeymoon, which he even admits you cannot get from this NDI crap. I am definitely not going now.

NCSU Student, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 00:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Well, they made it to Purdue. That's in indiana, the land of corn. My buddy went the night before, and he 'won' an ipod shuffle. There wasn't a legit raffle, he had his powerpoint already loaded, with claim no. already listed for different prizes. He claimed that they send it to 'only 2500 or so of upperclassman, of the 10s of thousands..." I live in a frat, and 4 of us got 'em. As for the ipod, who knows, they said that it would be mailed to him. We'll see what happens, and if i remember, i'll post up here. I 'won' the 3day/2night cruise...for having a claim no. ending with an even number. Odds got the holiday in stay..which i'd say is more useful. some girl got the 8/7 vacation. Yes, there were definitely 2 guys and 5 girls. Three of these girls signed up...even one that stated she's cruisin spring break for 650...what a dolt. She already got a sweet price, and she signed up for it.
They talk about a lowest price garauntee, in 30, if you see it lower...anywhere...get proof of the price, and they'll double the diff...
I'd have to say, if you've got the means, you like to travel for cheap, and will be furnishing a new place...then yeah, you might make it out saving a little cash. 80 bucks a year isn't bad once you got a job...but it better be a good one, cause you'll be spending a few grand to keep on top of things.

All in all, I considerded it, but decided that my deal finding abilities would suit me just fine for the rest of my life...until i'm makin 800K a year...then i'll join the club to save me a few hundred bucks.

Arty P, Thursday, 2 February 2006 00:34 (eleven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
My only question. Does anyone actually win something besides a trip? COmputer, TV, iPod, etc? That's the only way I'll sit through this scam.

wreckless, Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

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