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amazing filmmaker. amazing amazing amazing. what do you make of those imdb entries? i've only seen like 3/4 of what's listed. probable stupidity with translations. anyway.....

Poll Results

OptionVotes
... aka The Bread and Alley1
... aka Where Is the Friend's Home? 1
... aka The Chorus 1
... aka A Taste of Cherry (USA) 1
... aka The Traveler (USA) 0
... aka Orderly or Unorderly 0
... aka The Breaktime 0
... aka Regularly or Irregularly 0
... aka Dental Hygiene 0
... aka First Case, Second Case 0
... aka Solution No. 1 0
... aka How to Make Use of Our Leisure Time? 0
... aka Tribute to the Teachers 0
... aka The Experience 0
... aka A Suit for Wedding 0
... aka The Traveller 0
... aka The Colours 0
... aka Two Solutions for One Problem (International: English title) 0
... aka So I Can 0
... aka The Report 0
... aka Fellow Citizen 0
... aka Toothache 0
# Kojast jaye residan (2007) 0
# Roads of Kiarostami (2006) 0
# Tickets (2005) 0
# 10 on Ten (2004) 0
# Five Dedicated to Ozu (2003) 0
# ABC Africa (2001) 0
... aka The Wind Will Carry Us (Canada: English title) (USA) 0
# Lumière et compagnie (1995) 0
# À propos de Nice, la suite (1995) (segment "Repérages") 0
# Zire darakhatan zeyton (1994) (segment "Through the Olive Trees") 0
... aka Through the Olive Trees 0
... aka And Life Goes on... 0
... aka Life, and Nothing More... 0
... aka Close Up 0
... aka Homework 0
... aka First Graders 0
# ... aka To Each His Cinema (International: English title) 0


strgn, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

taste of cherries

max, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

but jesus every movie this guy directs makes me cry.

max, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

i think he sees each entry as a work? why are these entered as separate 'film' entities on imdb but impossible to find as such? MYSTERIES! i'm voting for TEN.

strgn, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

but yeah taste of cherries

strgn, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

i fucking love this dude

max, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

i would have a drink with abbas over any other director living or dead

max, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't know what to talk about... but then he'dd also be the easiest guy to bullshit with

strgn, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

i don't know. go di love 'taste of cherry.' i've really only seen a few of these but wow...

strgn, Friday, 14 December 2007 05:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 31 December 2007 00:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Will Through the Olive Trees finally come out in R1 on dvd in 2008?

Anyway, where is the friends home, but so many i've yet to see :(

Jeff LeVine, Monday, 31 December 2007 08:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

i was going to vote for 'jahan-nama palace' but i fucked up my own poll by drunkenly using imdb. lacma in los angeles had an amazing retrospective in october, most of which i missed and i'm really regretting it. but i did get to see that particular doc and jesus almighty if it wasn't one of the most beautiful films i've ever seen, and yeah, i cried, if that means anything. hoping more than like five people vote in this.

strgn, Monday, 31 December 2007 09:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wait - where's Ten (2002)? That's my fave.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 31 December 2007 09:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

# 10 on Ten (2004)

criterion dvd, sorry

strgn, Monday, 31 December 2007 09:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm confused. Is there a Criterion disc that includes both 10 on Ten and Ten? Or just the former? Or...?

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 31 December 2007 09:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

i fucked up my own poll by drunkenly using imdb

sorry. someone should really do another poll. i thought they were the same thing for some stupid reason. anyway, Ten is in like my top three. blasphemy. kill. vote for it anyway, maybe it'll have the same effect (? ? ?)

strgn, Monday, 31 December 2007 09:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh no big deal. I'll vote for The Chorus in its absence.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 31 December 2007 09:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 00:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Happy new year, ILE.

Eric H., Tuesday, 1 January 2008 00:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm glad one of my last actions of 2007 was to pump my man Kiarostami. Yo - y'all should read some amaaaaaaaaazing essays in this neat little book called Subtitles. There's one called "Where Are Kiarostami's Women?" by Negar Mottahedeh. Fantastic piece about the ban against showing women in Iranian film. Don't know much about it beyond this piece. But Kiarostami certainly does.

Also Hamid Naficy's "Epistolarity and Textuality in Accented Films." I met Hamid a few months ago at a conf. Righteous guy. Great piece.

Edited partially by Atom Egoyan. Get it.

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 09:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Just saw The Wind Will Carry Us, only the second of his films that I've seen, first one being Close-Up, that I must have seen around ten years ago on television late one night. Definitely going to watch more of his films. Very sad that this thread didn't have more posts!

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

I had an experimental kiarostomy as part of a paid study. They gave me $300 for having it out.

Aimless, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

Close Up is one of the 10 best films ive seen in my life

Zeno, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

btw The Wind Will Carry Us opened in the US in 2000, so if that's your criterion, I think it's ceratinly among the great films of the decade. Just rewatched, it's so layered...

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 January 2010 16:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

i would like to see it again, i saw it in '99 in french in a salle in paris. seems like a long time ago.

s1ocki bomaye (s1ocki), Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

He's 70, and Close-Up is out on CC BluRay.

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2001

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Sicinski on Certified Copy:

http://mubi.com/notebook/posts/2986

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 March 2011 04:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Abboring Kiarostami

Sheneneh et Caro (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 11 March 2011 04:49 (six years ago) Permalink

love kiarostami and am so stoked for certified copy

speaking of him, this film YOU ARE ALL CAPTAINS is fucking brilliant and the fact that it hasn't screened in NYC is just bizarre (assume it'll happen this spring?): http://daily.greencine.com/archives/008013.html

maybe i'm just gay (Tape Store), Friday, 11 March 2011 04:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Armond panned CC (but I am generally w/ him in preferring Makhmalbaf)

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 March 2011 12:39 (six years ago) Permalink

This is some kind of remarkable film, but I'll need another viewing to try to figure out what kind. I'm not yet in the 'masterpiece' camp, but I could get there.

Fuck bein' hard, Dr Morbz is complicated (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 March 2011 01:17 (six years ago) Permalink

damn, cant wait

johnny crunch, Monday, 21 March 2011 01:26 (six years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

CC is at 50+ theaters now, I think

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

So I don't have to brave the lines at IFC?

destroy poll monsters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

well, Lincoln Plaza can't be selling out on weeknights now

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:49 (six years ago) Permalink

goddamn this movie is incredible

maybe i'm just gay (Tape Store), Saturday, 16 April 2011 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah so that's gonna require another viewing.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 April 2011 19:08 (six years ago) Permalink

I've never seen The Wind Will Carry Us available on DVD.

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 April 2011 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

New Yorker Video put it out in 2002. They're out of business now, right?

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 April 2011 21:30 (six years ago) Permalink

it only lasted here a week :/

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 16 April 2011 23:00 (six years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

has anyone seen this twice yet?

I admire this movie a lot, found it fascinating and all that good stuff, but also there was something profoundly unpleasant about it, something bitter. maybe i missed something. but i do want to watch it again!

ryan, Thursday, 21 July 2011 05:13 (six years ago) Permalink

i should add im referring to Certified Copy.

ryan, Thursday, 21 July 2011 05:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, it's about a couple; how could it not be somewhat unpleasant?

joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

but also there was something profoundly unpleasant about it, something bitter.

oh yeah for sure, bitter indeed - like it's a while since i saw it but i think i came away thinking of it a lot less warmly than some of the responses here suggest everyone else did. like i really appreciated how interwoven the conceit was, & the extent to which it dictated things, but how gruelling it was for it to be reared back into the characters experience again and again left a taste. in the interests of full disclosure i should say that i turned off scenes from a marriage after like, three hours or whatever out of impatience -- & in that as w/this it was the cyclical slides back into friction & miscommunication that i found so draining.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

(as an aside, this was def the first film to persuade me aesthetically about digital, & RED cameras, &c. v beautiful.)

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

yes i think what was bugging me was that there wasn't really any sense of exactly ANY reason why these two people loved or even liked each other. but then maybe that's no so much a flaw as the point? no "original" relationship etc?

ryan, Thursday, 21 July 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

hey ryan, i was just reading the other thread, The films of Abbas Kiarostami., i wondered if you still felt the same about his earlier works. a decade later. there is something about the poetry i know exists in his films that is on a different plain to what is visible. even literally, the Farrokhzad poetry of the wind will carry us, which i feel slightly separated from by language and subtitles &c&c&c. i love the reach of his films. what amateurist said in the other thread:

There are a few scenes in And Life Goes On... in particular which are little bursts of inventiveness anchored to emotions.

blossom smulch (schlump), Sunday, 3 June 2012 00:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I do feel the same, if only because I haven't watched any of those films since then (despite being slightly embarrassed by some of what I wrote on that thread). I do plan to watch Certified Copy again but I'm most interested in seeing The Wind Will Carry Us and Taste of Cherry again. I have fond memories of those two, despite being a little bored or put off by them.

ryan, Monday, 4 June 2012 20:26 (five years ago) Permalink

The Wind Will Carry Us (Canada: English title) (USA) 0
... aka Through the Olive Trees 0
... aka And Life Goes on... 0
... aka Life, and Nothing More... 0
... aka Close Up 0

This is still, just, I can't.

Björk lied (Eric H.), Monday, 4 June 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

haha, otm

i do like thinking about them. i really wanna read the jon rosenbaum/mehrnaz saeed-vafa book about him; there's a great dialogue here on the international/rural context for the films. i don't really rewatch a lot but the the wind will carry us would improve if i caught it again, i think. how the films perambulate is almost diverting from their under-tones.

blossom smulch (schlump), Monday, 4 June 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Just finished Certified Copy. Not sure I can recommend it for anyone who's been in a long relationship; I feel like I've just been dissected, found to be malignant, and (rightly) discarded with all the other medical waste. What an amazing film.

things are going to get better or worse (WilliamC), Sunday, 4 August 2013 22:15 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I was down to see Close-Up a week ago. Friday night, so, as per usual, I lasted about 20 minutes before I started drifting. I rented it a few days later, also Certified Copy.

I admired the skill and the performances (especially Binoche) in both, and, as you can guess from such wording, I say that in the most dispassionate way. (I was also relieved to read that the thing I was confused about in Close-Up--"Um, were they married?"--was supposed to confuse me.) I'm surprised that Close-Up is so high in greatest-ever lists, or that it's there at all. I can think of a few huckster/ruse films--I know admirers would hate that description, but that's essentially what it is--that treated the subject with a little more verve.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2015 21:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Confused about in Certified Copy, I meant.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2015 21:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Certified Copy is overrated. Close-Up is one of the best movies ever. I don't care if you want to judge it's quality on how much verve it treats it's huckster with, but that final sequence with them on the motorcycle, and that final freeze-frame, that is some of the most amazing imagery of all time.

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 April 2015 22:57 (two years ago) Permalink

of all time

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 4 April 2015 22:59 (two years ago) Permalink

but yeah that's a sensible redress
unbearable contrarianism here but, for real, close up is like my fifth-fav kiarostami, & i think there's a slight bout-de-souffle dimension to its prominence, representing a whole era or school of thought in lieu of alternate films that have more specific rewards. but it's great, too, is so funny, has a lot of heart, &c, so i don't think it needs denuding.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:02 (two years ago) Permalink

The freeze-frame was nice. Overall, I didn't find it all that visually interesting. Apparently there was a music video that paid tribute to the motorcycle ride.

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:03 (two years ago) Permalink

a lot of the visual satisfaction of kiarostami's how tight it is, i think; something always incredibly judicious & economical, this sorta treasures of sierra madre academy ratio choppiness, really defined sense of space.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:10 (two years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoV6xfgCkcM

clemenza, Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Close-Up is as mentioned my favorite, but I was still surprised to see that it was the only Kiarostami on the Sight and Sound top 250. I thought pretty much everything else he made in the nineties was better regarded. He was on top for a loooong time.

All those courthouse scenes aren't that visually arresting, but I'm still on board. It's the mood, the themes, and that perfect final sequence that does it for me. If we talked only visuals, something like Through the Olive Trees or The Wind Will Carry Us are probably more consistently masterful. They don't quite hit me the same way, though.

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:29 (two years ago) Permalink

Mystified that Taste of Cherry fell off so sharply as I thought it was the consensus favorite for a little while there. But maybe I just thought that way because I saw that one first, and it knocked me flat.

Eric H., Saturday, 4 April 2015 23:42 (two years ago) Permalink

i feel like the aesthetics of the courthouse scene - the variation in lenses, cameras & the vantage point of kiarostami aside them - are Doing A Lot in close-up. the attention of the onlookers is so rapturous, too. i always think of the sister, her glasses.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:00 (two years ago) Permalink

All the courthouse scenes are real, iirc.

Frederik B, Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:04 (two years ago) Permalink

ha, wow. right.

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:12 (two years ago) Permalink

A fan's guide to Kiarostami by econ-blogger Tyler Cowen:

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2015/04/what-is-the-best-introduction-to-abbas-kiarostami-films.html

o. nate, Monday, 6 April 2015 01:58 (two years ago) Permalink

close up is one of my all-time favorite movies, and imo pretty incredible as a gesture of forgiveness from one human being to another.

the late great, Monday, 6 April 2015 02:11 (two years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i think that a new poll is in order, as long as we can get more than 4 people voting for these films.

뉴 메탈은 나머지 모든 보지 똥, 거기입니다 최고의 음악이다 (Eisbaer), Monday, 25 May 2015 08:11 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

fuck!

riverine (map), Monday, 4 July 2016 19:52 (one year ago) Permalink

what a shitty fucken year eh

The Nickelbackean Ethics (jim in glasgow), Monday, 4 July 2016 20:14 (one year ago) Permalink

devastating

schlump, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Ach. RIP

My City Slang Was Gone (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 July 2016 20:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Fuck man, RIP.

The Academy invited him just days ago iirc. Should've done that decades earlier. Tragic loss.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:21 (one year ago) Permalink

kiarostami is the academy

schlump, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:23 (one year ago) Permalink

:-(

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Great lost, we need his light more than ever.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:46 (one year ago) Permalink

I would be down for a re-poll. I'm going to watch a 5-6 of his films in the coming week.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:47 (one year ago) Permalink

^^ Me too. Fire up that poll imho.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 July 2016 20:49 (one year ago) Permalink

man what horrible news to come home to. usually when someone i admire dies in their 70s i'm okay with it, but Kiarostami was still relevant and making great films. a huge loss.

gonna fire up my Close-Up bluray now

woman in the dunes, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 02:34 (one year ago) Permalink

thats very sad. wish i was able to see the full season that the BFI did on him but his films meant a lot to me.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 07:04 (one year ago) Permalink

good read.

Ludo, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 19:49 (one year ago) Permalink

I just watched And Life Goes On for the first time this week, wonderful.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2016 21:51 (one year ago) Permalink

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bf62d7777b4d9ffda443907cb517bad2c539a442/0_78_4096_2457/master/4096.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=52e9c6ebb9cafc559335f04e0281e026

what an incredible image.

can anyone think of other directors who might inspire (or have inspired) the same sort of reaction?

when ken loach dies, would anyone do this? im not even sure spielberg, a crowd pleaser, would get that.

spike lee might. but im struggling to think (though just cos im struggling, doesnt mean im right) of anyone else who had that connection to an audience.

StillAdvance, Friday, 15 July 2016 10:05 (one year ago) Permalink

That's more to do with the nature of funerals in the Middle East than with how much esteem a director is held in.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 15 July 2016 13:56 (one year ago) Permalink

perhaps

StillAdvance, Friday, 15 July 2016 14:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Glenn Kenny on AK's last film and the van Heusen/Burke song (introduced by Dinah Shore in a forgotten 1944 flick) for which it's titled:

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2016/07/hollywood-to-tehran-to-tokyo-the-journey-of-like-someone-in-love.html

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 20:20 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Interview with his son: http://www.pardolive.ch/it/pardo/pardo-live/today-at-festival/2016/day-10/interview-ahmad-kiarostami.html Sounds like some of the forgotten stuff might be released more properly.

Frederik B, Friday, 12 August 2016 16:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Glenn Kenny on AK's last film and the van Heusen/Burke song (introduced by Dinah Shore in a forgotten 1944 flick) for which it's titled:

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2016/07/hollywood-to-tehran-to-tokyo-the-journey-of-like-someone-in-love.html

― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A++

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2016 19:42 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.ica.org.uk/whats-on/season/mohsen-makhmalbaf-focus

Makhmalbaf focus looks fab

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2016 19:44 (one year ago) Permalink

:D

schlump, Friday, 12 August 2016 23:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Hope I make it to something.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 13 August 2016 10:45 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I'm really getting into this guys work. For me his films are never boring, always compelling even if its grainy shots of a guy talking in close-up or someone just driving around. There's a lot of humanity, not in the sense of anything sentimental or "heart-warming". Although hes Godardian in some senses, he manages to keep a distance at the same time rather than push away the viewer

So many great scenes that linger in the memory - the main protagonist in "taste of cherry" being subsumed by the dust thrown up from the diggers, the motorbike ride at the end of "close-up", the repeated shots of the winding drive in "taste of cherry".

I didnt even mind the severe Brechtian ending of "Taste of Cherry". Usually, I detest those pomo turns but it was a lovely way to end the film imo.

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Sunday, 25 September 2016 20:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Where Is the Friend's Home? is as tense and nail-biting a film as Rear Window.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Sunday, 25 September 2016 21:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Indeed

Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 26 September 2016 00:07 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

His last film 24 Frames (finished by others) has opened in NY. Godfrey Cheshire discusses with AK's son Ahmad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZIsVjDGjHY

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:30 (one week ago) Permalink

It's getting a one-time free screening on Feb. 18th in Washington DC as part of the Freer/Sackler's Iranian Film Fest. It's very experimental, occasionally repetitive but worth seeing. The film is composed of an image of a 1565 Pieter Bruegel painting followed by 23 of Kiarostami’s own still photographs, to which he added subtle actions using computer technology

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 February 2018 20:40 (one week ago) Permalink

S & D: Iranian film

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 February 2018 16:58 (one week ago) Permalink


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