We're all in agreement about magicians, right?

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First of all, is it ever really magic? No. It's a trick. And they never reveal their tricks. So, you're going to trick me, and then you're not going to tell me how you did it? Fuck you. They are so much worse then mimes. Magicians are people with such minimal charisma that they have to develop a routine to get any one to pay attention to them at all. I've never met a magician I ever liked. Ever.

Bobbi Peru, Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

Although Harry Houdini was pretty bad ass.

Bobbi Peru, Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:36 (eighteen years ago)

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Jarlrmai, Saturday, 19 January 2008 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

anyone willing to practice really hard to get good at stuff is alright by me!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 19 January 2008 13:04 (eighteen years ago)

Uri Geller to thread

Zeno, Saturday, 19 January 2008 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

Uri Geller to my fucking fist, more like.

Oilyrags, Saturday, 19 January 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

I have no problem with slight-of-hand guys. It's fraudulent 'psychic' shitheels like Geller and that guy South Park gutted that deserve to be minced and fed to chickens.

Oilyrags, Saturday, 19 January 2008 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

that guy South Park gutted

who was this?

J0hn D., Saturday, 19 January 2008 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus

DavidM, Saturday, 19 January 2008 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/john_edward_psychic.jpg

Brigadier Pudding, Saturday, 19 January 2008 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

Also, classic or dud, "Magic Words"?
Hocus Pocus! Presto Chango! Izzy Wizzy, let's get busy!
And the aesthetics of magic: rabbits, top hats, and white gloves? High chintz.

Bobbi Peru, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Penn & Teller, or just Teller, in a book described how "magician" was the worst hobby you could pick to impress anyone, but especially girls.

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

Also thought it was v interesting in a "Hate" comic when Butch (who is supposedly overcoming his raging alcoholism) is performing card tricks to entertain Babs' children. Buddy says, "So a lot of the people I know who know card tricks do them to impress people at bars," successfully getting the goat of Butch.

So: they are the pasttime of lonely nerds and lonely drunks. Why the hating on? These people don't need the hating on.

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

i hate them all. party magicians, tv magicians, fake psychic magicians, debunker magicians, escape artists, mentalists, all of them smug power-trippin' fucks i wish would disappear down a hole and never return.

houdini more like who cares. get off my lawn!

latebloomer, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

GOB is one of the funniest characters in "Arrested Development."

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Ricky Jay is cool. Penn and Teller are funny when they aren't being libertarians.

Can't think of any other magicians worth watching.

milo z, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

South Park ripped on David Blaine, too, right? Blaineology episode?

dell, Saturday, 19 January 2008 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

Penn & Teller kind of invented thier own category; comedians who do magic with an S&M twist.

Bobbi Peru, Saturday, 19 January 2008 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah they did Blaine a good'un.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Penn & Teller's books are muy entertaining. They have a whole chapter in one about Elvis Costello, but it is mostly hilarious & strange pranks (one of which involves faxing, lol nineties).

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Someday I'm going to re-enact their re-enactment of the Kennedy assassination using watermelons.

milo z, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

and a little pink pillbox hat

milo z, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I was a magician for a couple years, and I briefly considered it as a career. It was fun and challenging. It helped me go from introvert to extrovert. No more fear of public speaking, no more fear of interaction with crowds. It was good.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Ricky Jay is cool.

Ricky Jay is the best. If you get a chance to see his "52 Assistants" video see it. I love card tricks anyway but these are amazing.

Paul Daniels, is, of course, ridiculed, but he does excellent close up sleight of hand. And then there's Darren Brown, he's basically a magician, right?

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah milo z the watermelon thing is the best, esp. when they call "back and to the left" the new national dance craze. Tho I liked the one where you glue a tiny red pompom onto yr driver's license and put on a clown nose for ID checks.

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

A good thing abt musicians: even looking at photos of many of them = instant laffs.

http://blog.instantcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/davidcopperfield.jpg

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://blogs.tampabay.com/juice/images/2007/10/19/tbddavidcopperfield102207.jpg

He should never have changed his haircut.

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

Inverse facelift: WHY?

http://maximumbob.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/aleister-crowley.jpg

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

He maded the magic.

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

Ricky Jay, Jeff McBride, Penn & Teller are great stage dudes.

Close up I dig Rene Lavand (best one-handed magician there has ever been), Dai Vernon (da God), & Michael Ammar (even if he is kinda like yr creepy uncle, dude is incredible).

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

Wow - the website that John Edwards photo comes from is some piece of work...

David Blaine may be sincere, but He is serving the Devil. I was sickened when I read in the news that Mr. Blaine was trying to discredit the miracles of Jesus Christ recorded in the Bible by imitating them. The unsaved masses have eaten this up and can't get enough. David Blaine is being praised by every God-hater and Christ-rejecter in the world for trying to prove that Jesus was no more than a great magician...

Read more here is you dare!

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

If you dare, even...

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

I really dug Blaine at first too, then he got this Houdini complex and now he's just kinda sad.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, those early tv specials were great. Especially the taxi trick. But sitting in a box for a long time is pretty dull.

Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Ned, that site...you found a winner.

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

I am grateful for magicians insofar as without them Kate Bush would not have written "Houdini." Actually, Houdini was pretty much of a badass: magician/debunker but more charismatic and less snide than P&T (tho in some ways less thrilling). And he gave Buster Keaton his nickname (Buster) when Buster was just a baby!

Abbott, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

Two of the best books about magic/magicians that I've ever read. Highly highly recommended.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5134X3MY20L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51K1BVHESPL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_OU01_AA240_SH20_.jpg

Also, when Chabon wrote Kavalier & Clay dude had obv done some srs research. Catching all the little magic-referencing asides was a joy.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

Carter Beats the Devil is a cracking read. He's not written another novel, has he?

chap, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, capitalizing "He" meaning David Blaine is the ultramegasuperduperroffles.

Oilyrags, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

five years pass...

anyone caught these 2 guys in LA or NY? Many press raves.

http://nothingtohidenyc.com/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 November 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)

First of all, is it ever really magic?

mizzell, Friday, 15 November 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)

No.

mizzell, Friday, 15 November 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)

assumed this revive would be about the david blaine thing i saw a commercial for last night, the commercial was just celebrities losing their shit.
interesting that nph directed this noting to hide show. he's a busy guy.

mizzell, Friday, 15 November 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)

i am dvr'ing the david blaine impresses steven hawking + woody allen thing on abc next week.

Mordy , Friday, 15 November 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)

has anyone been to the magic castle? does chaki still post, i bet he has

slam dunk, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:39 (twelve years ago)

my theory for the icepick trick is that he has radically cybermodified his hand w/ expensive next-gen implant technology that allows him to do that

Mordy , Thursday, 21 November 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)

has anybody here seen the movie scoop? i love that movie while conceding it is flawed

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Thursday, 21 November 2013 03:25 (twelve years ago)

seven years pass...

Ricky Jay is the best. If you get a chance to see his "52 Assistants" video see it. I love card tricks anyway but these are amazing.

― Ned Trifle II, Saturday, 19 January 2008 21:28 (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

In so many ways, this is one of the greatest things I've seen in my life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtgUSUHnzLI

imago, Friday, 19 March 2021 02:01 (five years ago)

Literally incredible stuff. I clicked on it out of idle curiosity last night, thinking I'd only sample 5 mins or so, and ended up staying for the whole thing.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 March 2021 13:35 (five years ago)

It's the erudition and humour that really elevates it

imago, Friday, 19 March 2021 14:59 (five years ago)

Basically, F For Fake but better

imago, Friday, 19 March 2021 15:00 (five years ago)

Indeed, as I don't much care for card trickery otherwise.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 March 2021 15:01 (five years ago)

actually the more I think about it the bigger his debt to Welles appears, haha. but he carries it off sensationally

imago, Friday, 19 March 2021 15:02 (five years ago)

the bit with the wind-up animals feels like a quantum leap or something, like we're suddenly in a Pynchon novel

imago, Friday, 19 March 2021 15:03 (five years ago)

You're not wrong:

https://www.criterion.com/current/top-10-lists/58-ricky-jay-s-top-10

pomenitul, Friday, 19 March 2021 15:03 (five years ago)

ahaha that is completely as one would expect, and excellently so

imago, Friday, 19 March 2021 15:05 (five years ago)

I'm a huge fan of his Jay's Journal of Anomalies book about the histories of various sideshow & stage magic acts, would have been a great writer even if he'd never touched a deck of cards

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 19 March 2021 15:06 (five years ago)

and speaking of his writing, i might get this

http://sigliopress.com/book/matthias-buchinger/

imago, Friday, 19 March 2021 15:08 (five years ago)

wow, that's an amazing show. the stories, humor, and stage presence are spectacular. he could probably teach any subject.

that's not my post, Friday, 19 March 2021 23:37 (five years ago)

I interviewed Ricky Jay once, definitely one of the cooler people I've ever sat down and chatted with. And my wallet and watch were still there at the end.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 March 2021 23:51 (five years ago)

I saw that show live when it was revived, and I own at least one of Jay's books on old-timey showbiz acts. He was fantastic, and there'll never be another one like him.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:05 (five years ago)


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