I was going to post this in ILG, but it could apply to anything. What do you do when you're engaged in some sort of contest where you are clearly better? Do you fake it and start trying a little less, or do you just keep going and revel in the rolling eyes+verbal assault that inevitably follows?
Really, my question comes down to Tetris Attack, 2-player mode. Every time my girlfriend and I play this I beat her without mercy for about 30 minutes before she storms off. I suppose I should be "messing up" more, but when I do that I get in trouble for letting her win.
What about other situations? What if you're destroying everyone else in ring toss, and the other players are 7-year-olds? 12-year-olds? 84-year-olds?
Do you fake it? Or are you just a natural asshole?
― Z S, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 15:34 (eighteen years ago)
It's all about being a graceful winner.
― dan m, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 15:45 (eighteen years ago)
I give back what I get. And I've actually written players names down who sonned me so hard that I must repay the favor. If it's a friend then trash talking is part of what makes it fun.
― bnw, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 15:51 (eighteen years ago)
Whoa, you actually have a list?! You should make a note in there somewhere saying "list of people to be beaten in a game, not killed. I don't kill people", because if one of the people on your revenge list were to ever be involved in a murder mystery, you'd be a top suspect with your Sonned List.
― Z S, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 15:54 (eighteen years ago)
Make sure to win money off of them, too. Since they're already going to be pissed off, you might as well make some cash.
― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow/characters/competitive_dad.shtml
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 15:59 (eighteen years ago)
But seriously, what's the protocol?
Like with me, if I were playing a competitive game against a 11-year-old boy, I wouldn't let up. Tough, kid. This isn't the 1990s anymore, in the new century you've gotta be good if you want to win. But if it were a 11-year-old girl, I'd let her win a few times, and I'm not sure why that is. All I know is that it would be another typical saturday afternoon.
― Z S, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:06 (eighteen years ago)
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― HI DERE, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:07 (eighteen years ago)
Serious answer: make sure to play something/engage in activity where she kicks YOUR ass.
Also, quit playing with 11 year olds.
― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)
Oh man, now I have to make my own Sonned List.
― Z S, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)
this happens everytime i play poker with mark c
― ken c, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)
when it's computer games/sports etc. i guess it's just great time to practice new techniques/methods that isn't part of your A-game but you can develop into a new A-game.
― ken c, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:11 (eighteen years ago)
I'm a little undercaffeinated but 'online enemies already in your home' makes it sound like there's some perv on his laptop in the garage trying to hit on junior.
― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
Sadly my list has never actually worked. You gotta get to them right away b/c the battlefield is just too large.
It is very gratifying when you hear your on someone else's list.
― bnw, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.nancarrow-webdesk.com/warehouse/storage2/2008-w08/img.138094_t.jpg
― Z S, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:18 (eighteen years ago)
you say: IN YOUR FACE IN YOUR FACE IN YOUR FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE.
I hope ken says that to mark c.
― Upt0eleven, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 16:21 (eighteen years ago)
Gracious and dignified winner is the key. Keep kicking their ass, but don't be a dick about it. Letting people win is for suckers, even if they are 7 year olds.
I've consistently beating my wife in Scrabulous lately but despite her pleas I'm not going to stop trying to win. The only shit I give her is when I tell her that she should at least feel good about being married to a winner.
― joygoat, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:32 (eighteen years ago)
Every time my girlfriend and I play this I beat her without mercy for about 30 minutes before she storms off.
lol
iono if i'm playing a girl i try to mess up a LITTLE but otherwise yea NO MERCY < /http://dchs1984.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/425.jpg >
― sleep, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:44 (eighteen years ago)
Why are teh bad guys always teh hottest? This is my problem with teen movies.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:46 (eighteen years ago)
Or possibly my problem with guys.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:47 (eighteen years ago)
My roommate in college, a skinny, heroin addict looking kid, had a foosball that he used to get everyone in the house (40+ dudes) to sign when he beat them. It was pretty much covered in ink by the end of our two years there.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:56 (eighteen years ago)
usually when i am kicking too much ass people around me are in such awe they ask me to stop. sometimes i continue just because once i start kicking ass, i am a steamroller, a boulder down a mountain and it is hard to stop. but most of the time i comply and it is at this point in the proceedings that everyone stands arounds me and applauds.
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:58 (eighteen years ago)
I had an interesting conversation yesterday about just this thing.
A friend of mine is moving to San Francisco - he's tired of DC, and is looking to try out someplace new. He is probably making a bigger deal of it than he should be - he's calling it, alternatively, "finding his muse" or "on a vision quest." But he has been (a) working like a dog to save money (b) focusing on getting things tied up neatly in DC and (c) really preparing to enter a new phase in life, by his own volition.
Now, how much of all THAT I buy would fit into a shot glass, but he did make an interesting point: When you are clearly focused on doing and accomplishing things and are going about it in a positive, one step after another manner, you are INFINITELY more attractive to the opposite sex. I agree with this.
But then he went even further to say "But I know I'll meet a woman, and she'll get her claws in me and trap me that way that they do. That's their job, man. They want you to succeed, but not too much. They want you to be happy, but not too happy. Bottom line, they want you to be able to get it up, but not be willing to use it."
My response was "Man, thats the difference between women and girls. Women want their men to be successful and confident and happy on their own terms, and to choose to be with them. Girls somehow think that (a) they can change a man into something they can manage and (b) that the two of them are going to then be happy with the resulting simalcrum of a relationship. Skip the girls - they're fun when you're 18 - 21, but women are what you want for the long run."
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)
i think a girl needs to kick your friend's ass
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
you guys could have an awesome talk radio show imo
― omar little, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:28 (eighteen years ago)
this is why no one will play me in Street Fighter II :(
― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:29 (eighteen years ago)
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does your friend write for According to Jim?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:29 (eighteen years ago)
SF already full of 'vision questers'. Also, bad straigh male/straight female ratio, suggest he import 'woman'.
― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)
Nah. He had that happen already, and he was a stressed-out, secretive behavior type while in that relationship - smoking pot on the sly, and always sounding like he was apologizing for something.
What he needs is a woman. Someone who wants to be with him (although THAT creature is rarer than a griffin at this point) in a mature relationship of equals.
Meh. Talk radio gets boring because of the necessity of commercial breaks. Published correspondence would be MUCH more interesting, if at all.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)
"But I know I'll meet a woman, and she'll get her claws in me and trap me that way that they do. That's their job, man. They want you to succeed, but not too much. They want you to be happy, but not too happy. Bottom line, they want you to be able to get it up, but not be willing to use it."
I'll have to ask my wife about this while she's kicking my ass.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:37 (eighteen years ago)
I pretty much always play everything to win, whatever form of competition it is. I don't see myself as being competitive per se; it's more that I like the rush of doing something really well.
I don't get much out of repeatedly losing to a vastly superior opponent, or vice versa. If I'm going to play against a little kid or someone really inexperienced, I'd rather turn it into an instruction/help session, in which I'm openly coaching them. Or vice versa, if my opponent far outclasses me. Letting someone win, or creating the illusion of competitiveness, usually isn't good for anyone involved.
Besides, as long as there aren't any real stakes in the matter, I don't mind losing to people who are better than me at a particular game, especially if we're both playing well. It pushes me to improve, and to learn more.
I never trash-talk or gloat after I win something, but even so, sometimes people get grumpy afterward, or worse. I think, as character flaws go, being a sore loser is a particularly unpleasant one; when someone throws a fit or storms around after a loss, I immediately (and involuntarily) lose some aspect of my respect for them, and it's tough to regain it.
Oddly enough, despite men's reputation for competitiveness, the two or three biggest sore losers I've ever met have all been women. There seems to be a specific personality type I run into over and over again -- former academic high achievers for whom every contest is a referendum on their self-worth, and who take it very badly if they're not the winner. I'm sure if I were more into athletics, though, I'd meet plenty of guys who trash their locker rooms, or worse, after a bad loss.
Your friend is mostly full of shit, but it's true that if two people are in a relationship, and one is much more driven and ambitious and accomplished than the other, then the lesser light will often try (consciously or not) to drag the other person down and hold them back. That doesn't really have anything to do with gender, though.
― Charlie Rose Nylund, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)
fine then, a human female of undetermined age but affirmed maturity needs to kick the shit out of your friend. he sounds like a jerk.
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)
This I also know, but am hesitant to point out as I will be told "Man, you don't know." or "Stop trying to act like my older brother."
It is really another in a string of familiar restarts for this guy - always focusing on what the next restart is going to bring, and then being incredibly disappointed when he actually has to WORK to get to those things.
I think the song he needs to commit to memory is Big Daddy Kane's "I Get the Job Done":
"I get the job done. I work...baby."
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:39 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.citypaper.com/sb/57181/clips_anchorman.jpg
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)
he sounds like a jerk.
Yeah, he's pretty much a good time friend at this point. He has proven himself to be unreliable too many times to be depended on, but he can be a whole lot of fun to hang out with.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)
That Anchorman scene was funny. That movie was funny, come to think of it. And I can't stand Will Farrell.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:43 (eighteen years ago)
Once I get going, it would be a disservice to humanity to curb my trash talk.
― Kerm, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 18:47 (eighteen years ago)
"i only came here to do two things, kick some ass and drink some beer... looks like we're almost outta beer"
― 6335, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 19:04 (eighteen years ago)
I was hoping to see someone defend the Take It Easy For The Sake Of The Other Person, Jerk position.
― Z S, Thursday, 15 May 2008 04:28 (eighteen years ago)
ILX doesn't tolerate that namby pamby crap. We wash our jeans and ban deeznuts when and if we feel like it. If you ain't first, you're last.
― Kerm, Thursday, 15 May 2008 04:32 (eighteen years ago)
times have changed. i can't even remember the last time i had a problem related to kicking too much ass. these days i'm just trying to pay my utilities and make sure i don't run out of pasta sauce
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 14:45 (eleven years ago)
germany
― cpt navajo (darraghmac), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 15:08 (eleven years ago)