This is the inevitable thread for ILxors in their forties

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Yes, I know, creeping balkanisation etc. but why should we be left out?

But please leave cheeky Ovaltines at the door.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 13:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

What do we do?

Dr.C, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

You tell us, you're the role models for those of us in our thirties, y'see.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

My vision has gone 'bifocalish', ie I gotta take the glasses off to read.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

left out we certainly be should not.

t**t, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ah, the Iain Sinclair "serendipitous random art collage" problem (xp).

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

I wish I could afford a midlife crisis -- I'd sure have one.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wait, what were we talking about again? I must have dozed off.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Btw, Rock, that just means you'll have to live longer.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

The nights are fair drawing in.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

My toes hurt -- do yours? I think it must be this weather.

Brad C., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

Shit, Michael, with my genes I'm doomed to 95 years at least.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

I blame it on so-called asylum seeking feral politically correct Broken Britain.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

(the weather, that is)

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

That monologue with Rhys Ifans last night.

What was all that about?

Eh?

Eh?

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can't stop feeling all \o_O/ seeing twentysomething girls wearing essentially the same fashions that girls wore when I was twenty.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

Actually more like when I was fifteen.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Haven't exactly been bombarded by deelyboppers and pop socks around these parts.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

Shoreham - liminal, but copper messy.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

I had my midlife crisis from the ages of approx 15-42 so I reckon I'm due uncomplicated happiness now.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

This thread is so much like me at an FAP that it's spooking me out.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm drinking here at work, too.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me. -- Rock Hardy

As per suits, I don't think I've got any I fit into anymore.
On the, er, thinner side: I amn't that dirty really.

t**t, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Just don't recognise anything in this thread. Including the posts I posted so that suggests it was probably a crap idea. Oh well, it was worth a momentary try.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

Please to God never let me actually become a "fortysomething."

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

What are the characteristics of a fortysomething? (I bet I have most of them).

Dr.C, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can legally have an affair with someone half my age!

so, is anyone on for it?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

thread is otm, though now I can also see how it mightn't be otm, and would not be surprised to find myself arguing either side of the question for fifteen minutes or so before getting completely distracted by some other stray thought

J0hn D., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

They say memory is the second thing to go. I can't remember the first one.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

My drug of choice these days is Back and Body aspirin, for that extra frisson of caffeine.

Jaq, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Memory is going, true, but at least I remember the 70s

Brad C., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Memory is going, true, but at least I have begun forgetting the 70's.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

hi.

um, I'm OK.

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

What are the characteristics of a fortysomething?

Being aged between 40 and 49. Anyway I though we were all 'middle youths' nowadays.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

sorry to have woken you oldtimers up . but. I misread Marcello's OP as

Yes, I know, creeping balkanisation etc. but why should we be left out?

But please leave cheeky Ovaries at the door.

-- Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:35 PM (7 hours ago)

Thomas, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'll have you know my ovaries are extremely well-behaved; veritable paragons of polite ovarian society.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

The ovaries are fine, but I'm prone to brain farts now.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

The world's worst song.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

Comparing your ovary to a Bronte C/D?

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wuthering Ovaries

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thrustcrotch Minge

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Carry On Bronteing

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me.

-- Rock Hardy

^^^

moley, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

haven't you all heard - us 40+'rs are saving the music industry.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/stevelamacq/2008/08/to_bb_or_not_to_bb.html

mark e, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Come on - you're not too old to have forgotten this thread already...
I am too old for this...the 40 plus thread.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

Don't even remember that thread but this one could do with a few more ovaries...

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 August 2008 08:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

my right knee

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

wait, is your right knee also my right knee. Because - my right knee.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:51 (six years ago) Permalink

the "bill bailey" is alright if you can own it.

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:27 (one week ago) Permalink

nope

Bill gets a pass because he's Bill but even he admits he's part man part troll and I think the hair is a lot of that.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 5 January 2018 16:29 (one week ago) Permalink

if you give me enough time i can come up with other examples of successful bill baileys but they'd have to be self effacing comedians who look exactly like bill bailey

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 16:40 (one week ago) Permalink

lol :)

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 5 January 2018 16:41 (one week ago) Permalink

omg i mistook bill bailey (who i had to google, no idea who that guy is) for beetle bailey
on account of the hat and implied attitude? idk

my 40s have been great so far but sometimes i find myself being completely out of the loop wrt a conversation in which people use references to imply something and i am not aware of what that thing is or what it means

oh well! i'm alright w my 40s so far otherwise.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Recruta_zero_03.png

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 5 January 2018 16:47 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh man, yeah, these kids today with their references. I've been getting some first-hand experience with the 'clueless adult' archetype as I've slowly relinquished all effort wrt keeping up with what's 'hip' and 'dope' and 'fresh'.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 January 2018 16:54 (one week ago) Permalink

the thing is that i don't care that i don't know -- i can look it up, whatever, or just ignore it. it's just a sign to me that i am on the outside looking in. whatever! i am still a decent person and know plenty of interesting things. i am not very into complaining about being in my 40s tbh.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 5 January 2018 16:58 (one week ago) Permalink

i've never felt particularly interested in keeping up with what's cool which might make me a "cob nobbler" or a "lamestain" but i guess rather than keeping up i prefer to just go through life making discoveries randomly.

with music i actually use the ILM year end poll to discover what's good or rather what i like from the previous year. though i think i'm generally pretty good about keeping up with certain types of new music.

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:11 (one week ago) Permalink

So sad right now that only someone in their 40s would pick up on your grunge insults.

I'm generally at least five years behind the curve on most 'hip' pop culture. I'm really not worried about it at all. Can't wait to discover fidget spinners sometime in 2021, though.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:20 (one week ago) Permalink

haaa i am in my 40s and i still didn't get it
tbh this is a lifelong issue for me that has only gotten more pronounced as i age, it's ok

i too prefer to skip my way through life enjoying what i enjoy & discovering things at my own pace

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:25 (one week ago) Permalink

La Lechera otm. Enjoy what you enjoy; I believe that it's wrongheaded to regard "keeping up with ___" as a moral imperative rather than a taste / preference / lifestyle choice.

failsun ra (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I used to wonder "How can my grandmother not know who Bruce Springsteen is?"

And now I wonder, "How in the world can my kids not know who Bruce Springsteen is?"

pplains, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:35 (one week ago) Permalink

there's always a time to learn about something

my dad has always done this really REALLY annoying thing where I will show an understanding of, say, Busby Berkeley movies and he's like flabberghasted, and asks "how do you know about Busby Berkeley movies???" like I could only possibly know about things that have happened while I was alive, like that is even logical. he's done it since i was a teenager, it's so annoying! he still does it!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:41 (one week ago) Permalink

There are times when a casual onlooker might assume that I was unaware that mass media had continued to be produced after I was born.

Bobby Buttrock (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:45 (one week ago) Permalink

Generally speaking, most people are best at appreciating and evaluating cultural products produced when they were aged 15-20.

Coincidentally, that's exactly when culture feels like it is of life-or-death importance; that's when your favorite band is likeliest to define your social group and your wardrobe and your self-image.

Of course there are always also people who are WAY into Buster Keaton or Duke Ellington or Emily Dickinson or w/ev from a young age; my hat is off to those people as well.

failsun ra (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:52 (one week ago) Permalink

i'm pretty inspired by my mom, who is really interested in keeping up with new art and new fashion. she's 70 years old and lives out in the sticks far NW of Chicago. She follows fashion trends and likes to make her own clothes, and she listens to a lot of Sonic Youth. it's probably no wonder my folks got divorced (though they're still friends), my dad's the type of fellow who will visit and I'll fish for something he'd like to do and it's always like "oh you know me, i'm ok with settling in at Coffee Bean for awhile to read a book, maybe we can go find a sandwich somewhere..."

it's always "find a sandwich"!

but it's ok, i respect both their interest levels.

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:54 (one week ago) Permalink

Your parents sound very cool

calstars, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:55 (one week ago) Permalink

OL I love your mom!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:04 (one week ago) Permalink

my dad has always done this really REALLY annoying thing where I will show an understanding of, say, Busby Berkeley movies and he's like flabberghasted, and asks "how do you know about Busby Berkeley movies???"

Sometimes, I'll make some B.J. Hunnicutt reference at work, and someone will say, "HAHA The millennials don't know what you're talking about!"

And hell, I know all about the Honeymooners and Lucy & Ethel at the chocolate factory. I'll give millennials the benefit of the doubt about a show that went off the air the decade they were born.

pplains, Friday, 5 January 2018 18:06 (one week ago) Permalink

OK yes but I've had to explain that Paul Newman wasn't just some salad dressing guy to more than one person in their 20s in the last few years so it does happen.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:07 (one week ago) Permalink

i also love my mom!

partially relating to being in our forties: she was having financial difficulty and there's no way in hell we're going to be buying a house in L.A. since everything here that's convenient is either 700K plus or a fixer or usually both (leading to feelings of financial inadequacy as people around us buy homes for 1.4 million and the like), so we bought her house for her so she could stay there and continue to live her life. so now we actually own a house, which feels very adult. it's just not *our* house.

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 18:10 (one week ago) Permalink

In my 30s I'd say stuff like "I prefer darker roasted coffee" but now I say "At my age, I prefer darker roasted coffee." This is a good trick for seeming wise.

mick signals, Friday, 5 January 2018 18:18 (one week ago) Permalink

now I wonder, "How in the world can my kids not know who Bruce Springsteen is?"

Listening to Bruce always struck me as highly optional. But at least I know who he is. By the same token, as a kid I knew, for example, who Jimmy Durante was, even though his career had basically ended before I was born.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:23 (one week ago) Permalink

your mom sounds super cool omar

Generally speaking, most people are best at appreciating and evaluating cultural products produced when they were aged 15-20.
maybe. but i feel confident saying that generally speaking, i am not most people :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:28 (one week ago) Permalink

it's always "find a sandwich"!

your dad has got it together

j., Friday, 5 January 2018 18:38 (one week ago) Permalink

When I was 15 I got super-offended when my aunt said I couldn't possibly understand the lyrics to "Purple Rain." Now I hear some contemporary music and am like "WTF are they singing?" :(

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:46 (one week ago) Permalink

pretty much all specific bits of culture are highly optional.

I grew up with a sense that there was Essential Culture, but lost it quickly. When I got married, my parents were a little surprised that my wife hadn't been made to sit through all of "our" canonical movies. Nowadays we occasionally try to tell the children about Elvis Costello or the Go-Gos or Animaniacs. If they yawn and roll their eyes, we just drop it. Life's too short. They'll find what they need to find.

failsun ra (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 5 January 2018 19:52 (one week ago) Permalink

the only answer if you fear top baldness is to go - FULL mullet - so top is hairless, sides are partying. Like Ben Stahl

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:37 (one week ago) Permalink

or john weathers from gentle giant

infinity (∞), Friday, 5 January 2018 20:39 (one week ago) Permalink

We are apparently newly and differently fecund at this age.

Our forties might be "the decline of fecundity and the beginning of something else: a fecundity of the imagination, an era when we become not creative, but creation." My latest, for @onbeing. https://t.co/qLkUkUxNwU

— Kaya Oakes (@kayaoakes) January 5, 2018

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 January 2018 04:19 (one week ago) Permalink

whole lotta things "might be" true

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 6 January 2018 04:23 (one week ago) Permalink

so . . . wanna see my fecundity?

mookieproof, Saturday, 6 January 2018 04:26 (one week ago) Permalink

whole lotta things "might be" true

Truer words etc

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Saturday, 6 January 2018 06:42 (one week ago) Permalink

I couldn't get past the fecund line tbh. You don't need to be in your 40's to eschew that type of Richard and Judy show level bullshit psychobabble, and know confidently know that your not fucking missing out on anything of use.

calzino, Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:12 (one week ago) Permalink

sorry i blew all my fecundity 20 years back

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 January 2018 11:18 (one week ago) Permalink

fecund sounds too fecal to me and I dont like the word :<

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Saturday, 6 January 2018 12:28 (one week ago) Permalink

In re keeping up with stuff, I think it’s a sort of misleading concept. When you’re younger it’s easier to be aware of some strains of pop culture because your friends and social circles are likewise tuned in and you’re more likely to just kind of absorb things by osmosis. otoh you’re likely to be aware of a relatively narrow band of stuff just because it takes a while to discover everything that’s out there in the world. In my 40s I’m definitely less cognizant of youth culture than when I was in my teens or 20s, but I’m more aware of at least some stuff across a much broader range.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 6 January 2018 13:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Honestly, On Being usually makes me want to throw eggs at the radio. I can't stand that show.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 6 January 2018 16:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I used to wonder "How can my grandmother not know who Bruce Springsteen is?"

My grandpa tried name-dropping him in a dinner table conversation once, but unfortunately he called him Bruce Springlestein by mistake

faust apes (NickB), Saturday, 6 January 2018 16:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Shaving your head down is *almost* like hiding it but it's also saying fuck it, this is who I am.

this is massively massively otm. when i decided to shave it all off it was a single-fingered “fuck you” to my deviant cocking hairline. in general, balding people who clean-shave (imo) are people who take full control of unwanted bullshit.

rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 11:32 (two hours ago) Permalink

Shaving my head worked well when I was living in a tropical country, but in the UK it just exasperates the "it's cold and there are no hats that I can now acceptably wear" problem.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:03 (one hour ago) Permalink

I really don't get why "hiding" that you are bald by shaving is a problem for some people. Not on this thread, but I have actually seen people say that it's somehow cheating or deception.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:17 (one hour ago) Permalink

The wonderbra of haircuts

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:21 (one hour ago) Permalink

XP Because people are massively, inexplicably keen to judge other people for everything they are and everything they do?

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:24 (one hour ago) Permalink

and who they do it for..

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:26 (one hour ago) Permalink

Taking back control - the bald by choice movement.

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:17 (twenty-three minutes ago) Permalink

TBF, it's not really 'hiding' anyway, inasmuch as the perimeter of the stubble still clearly telegraphs your hairline.

I'd actually been clipping my hair down to nothing for several years before I started losing it, which made the adjustment to the haircut I'd have for the rest of my life relatively smooth.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:32 (seven minutes ago) Permalink

No pun intended!

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 13:32 (seven minutes ago) Permalink


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