This is the inevitable thread for ILxors in their forties

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Yes, I know, creeping balkanisation etc. but why should we be left out?

But please leave cheeky Ovaltines at the door.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 13:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

What do we do?

Dr.C, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

You tell us, you're the role models for those of us in our thirties, y'see.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

My vision has gone 'bifocalish', ie I gotta take the glasses off to read.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

left out we certainly be should not.

t**t, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Ah, the Iain Sinclair "serendipitous random art collage" problem (xp).

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

I wish I could afford a midlife crisis -- I'd sure have one.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wait, what were we talking about again? I must have dozed off.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Btw, Rock, that just means you'll have to live longer.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

The nights are fair drawing in.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

My toes hurt -- do yours? I think it must be this weather.

Brad C., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

Shit, Michael, with my genes I'm doomed to 95 years at least.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

I blame it on so-called asylum seeking feral politically correct Broken Britain.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

(the weather, that is)

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

That monologue with Rhys Ifans last night.

What was all that about?

Eh?

Eh?

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can't stop feeling all \o_O/ seeing twentysomething girls wearing essentially the same fashions that girls wore when I was twenty.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

Actually more like when I was fifteen.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Haven't exactly been bombarded by deelyboppers and pop socks around these parts.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

Shoreham - liminal, but copper messy.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

I had my midlife crisis from the ages of approx 15-42 so I reckon I'm due uncomplicated happiness now.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

This thread is so much like me at an FAP that it's spooking me out.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm drinking here at work, too.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me. -- Rock Hardy

As per suits, I don't think I've got any I fit into anymore.
On the, er, thinner side: I amn't that dirty really.

t**t, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

Just don't recognise anything in this thread. Including the posts I posted so that suggests it was probably a crap idea. Oh well, it was worth a momentary try.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

Please to God never let me actually become a "fortysomething."

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

What are the characteristics of a fortysomething? (I bet I have most of them).

Dr.C, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 15:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can legally have an affair with someone half my age!

so, is anyone on for it?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

thread is otm, though now I can also see how it mightn't be otm, and would not be surprised to find myself arguing either side of the question for fifteen minutes or so before getting completely distracted by some other stray thought

J0hn D., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

They say memory is the second thing to go. I can't remember the first one.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

My drug of choice these days is Back and Body aspirin, for that extra frisson of caffeine.

Jaq, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Memory is going, true, but at least I remember the 70s

Brad C., Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Memory is going, true, but at least I have begun forgetting the 70's.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 16:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

hi.

um, I'm OK.

Mark G, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

What are the characteristics of a fortysomething?

Being aged between 40 and 49. Anyway I though we were all 'middle youths' nowadays.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

sorry to have woken you oldtimers up . but. I misread Marcello's OP as

Yes, I know, creeping balkanisation etc. but why should we be left out?

But please leave cheeky Ovaries at the door.

-- Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:35 PM (7 hours ago)

Thomas, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'll have you know my ovaries are extremely well-behaved; veritable paragons of polite ovarian society.

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

The ovaries are fine, but I'm prone to brain farts now.

Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

The world's worst song.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 20:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

Comparing your ovary to a Bronte C/D?

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wuthering Ovaries

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thrustcrotch Minge

Michael White, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Carry On Bronteing

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

One upside: being a dirty old man sort of suits me.

-- Rock Hardy

^^^

moley, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

haven't you all heard - us 40+'rs are saving the music industry.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/stevelamacq/2008/08/to_bb_or_not_to_bb.html

mark e, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

Come on - you're not too old to have forgotten this thread already...
I am too old for this...the 40 plus thread.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 21:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

Don't even remember that thread but this one could do with a few more ovaries...

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 28 August 2008 08:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

my right knee

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

wait, is your right knee also my right knee. Because - my right knee.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

is it just me or are we aging better as a generation? i mean i know _I_ look good but it seems like most of my fortysomething friends look like they're in their thirties. these boomer/greatest gen guys in their forties look like they're in their fifties

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:40 (four months ago) Permalink

i wouldn't say it extends to everyone in my generation but many people whose lifestyle permits seem to be holding up better than their elders (self included)
life can make a person look haggard in any number of ways; age is but one of them

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:03 (four months ago) Permalink

having a kid pretty much destroys you is how i break it down to an extent

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:06 (four months ago) Permalink

having a kid pretty much destroys you is how i break it down to an extent

ABSOLUTELY. Though I never say this out loud around people I know who have kids.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:09 (four months ago) Permalink

(active) dads and moms alike ime; pretty clearly the lack of sleep and massive stress that does it

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:14 (four months ago) Permalink

^ This. Obv it's a generalization and not true of everyone but in general the ppl I know who look the youngest out of my peers are the ones who don't have kids.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:23 (four months ago) Permalink

also these days we're less likely to have been smoking for 30 years

mookieproof, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:24 (four months ago) Permalink

and probably eat more fresh vegetables

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:27 (four months ago) Permalink

I smoked for 20 years but I've also been using eye cream and anti-aging moisturizer since I was 18 and a very wise esthetician told me it was never too early to start and to always always wear sunscreen. I would tongue kiss that lady if I could find her today. Also, I do think genetics plays a role in this stuff too.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:28 (four months ago) Permalink

I got made fun of for leaving my eye cream at a friend's apartment after a sleepover for a bachelorette party when I was in my mid-twenties. An email was sent around asking who the old lady was her forgot her cream and they all laughed. Guess who's laughing now, ladies? I read something the other day which said that 20 somethings are now getting botox as a preventive anti-aging thing which seems bonkers to me.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:41 (four months ago) Permalink

I had a meeting with a client yesterday who is two years older than me and has two kids, and she looks pretty great. Like the people I know who are my age that have kids don't look any older than those who don't -- maybe the women are slightly heavier, which culturally connotes "older" -- however, fat generally makes your skin look younger.

Like, all else being equal, the heavier people I know in their 40s have younger looking skin than the thin ones, so it kinda evens out in the "what age do you look" department, outside of wardrobe choices and balding/graying issues.

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:20 (four months ago) Permalink

but honestly (xp way up thread), if I had the time (and fuck I wish I did), I would photoshop Archie and Edith wearing contemporary "hip" 40-something clothes and see whether they still look "old" for their ages.

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:24 (four months ago) Permalink

the way people treat agedness as repellent disappoints me
youth will always be fleeting -- even for the genetically fortunate, the diligent moisturizers, the health freaks. even if i look younger than i am right now, some day i won't and i want to be able to feel alright about myself when that happens.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:26 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah! especially at our age(s) -- it's one thing when your a teen/20-something, but now, it's like self-loathing. Why do it? ... Funny enough, earlier today my neighbor (who I think is about 80) was using her new walker and getting on the senior bus, and I envisioned myself at that age doing the same thing -- what it would be like, how I would feel about my fellow infirm senior citizens -- would it be like when I was 8 and switched schools and had to take the bus, with a bunch of other children, an age where we're fragile and dependent as well.

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:34 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm fine with aging and actually looking quite forward to it but I agree that the way people treat it is really upsetting. I know that it's inevitable but I'm still going to take small measures like using moisturizers and sunscreen to look the best I can as I get older and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't want to look like I'm 25 but I'm quite happy to look good for forty if that makes any sense.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:36 (four months ago) Permalink

Tbh I'm going full on kaftan, crazy glasses, and turbans when I hit 70 and I'm very much looking forward to my Mrs. Roper chic stage of life.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:36 (four months ago) Permalink

I'm pretty much full-on Mrs. Roper chic in the summer when it gets over 90.

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

And although I would like to see Carol O'C in the outfits you're proposing, S, I think he'd sill look pretty damn old for 44. I honestly would have guessed he was about 60 in that picture.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:38 (four months ago) Permalink

x-post - yessssssssssssss :)

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:39 (four months ago) Permalink

the kaftan thing is great -- you get air circulation, don't worry about shaving your legs, getting sunburned ...and potentially importantly, it signals to the men who seem to develop into super solicitous creeps in the hot months, that you do not give a fuck, and they should leave you the fuck alone.

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:40 (four months ago) Permalink

xxp - I just think about how we perceive age -- as in "how old is this person" -- and what forms those perceptions, what cues do we look for. Some of it is biological/genetic, but I think there's cultural influence in that as well, idk.

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 21:50 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah think about Cary Grant or Humphrey Bogart as romantic leads. In the mid-20th century straight white guys did not necessarily want or need to look young.

Tippi Sanhedrin (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:52 (four months ago) Permalink

x-post - No, I think you're definitely right about that. Also, the air circulation factor is key. I pretty much only wear dresses in the summer for that reason. When it's hot and humid out I can't stand clothes that are clingy.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 26 January 2018 21:53 (four months ago) Permalink

xp - honestly think about the fact that Harrison Ford and Clint Eastwood were romantic leads up until ...

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:03 (four months ago) Permalink

which brings us to the contentious territory of aging men vs. women

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:04 (four months ago) Permalink

Well, yeah.

Tippi Sanhedrin (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 26 January 2018 22:19 (four months ago) Permalink

when Spencer Tracy was Bruce Springsteen's age, he was dead.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2018 22:22 (four months ago) Permalink

An ex-bf of mine (Irish, not an ILXor, died unexpectedly last year) always asked people ‘what is your age’ and I always thought that was a better way of putting it!

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 26 January 2018 22:26 (four months ago) Permalink

did he get a bunch of clever responses like "stone", "mesozoic", and "golden"?

sarahell, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:28 (four months ago) Permalink

Carroll O'Connor in 1968 at age 44:

https://i.imgur.com/dwiNJjp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/M9JO4nG.jpg

pplains, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:58 (four months ago) Permalink

Also so happy to have finally found a thread to post 50-year-old Carroll O'Connor pictures.

pplains, Friday, 26 January 2018 22:59 (four months ago) Permalink

is it just me or are we aging better as a generation? i mean i know _I_ look good but it seems like most of my fortysomething friends look like they're in their thirties. these boomer/greatest gen guys in their forties look like they're in their fifties

― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses)

no i'm pretty much decrepit, carroll o'connor looks great compared to me

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Saturday, 27 January 2018 00:46 (four months ago) Permalink

http://i.cdn.turner.com/v5cache/TCM/Images/Dynamic/i440/kellysheroes_forgetaboutyourflanks_FC_470x264_052720170642.jpg

Carroll O'Connor at 45

https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/006wy7kd.jpg

meanwhile, same movie - clint eastwood at 39 (movie came out when he was 40)

sarahell, Saturday, 27 January 2018 03:15 (four months ago) Permalink

Potato chips will do wonders

calstars, Saturday, 27 January 2018 03:16 (four months ago) Permalink

YEah, he and George Harrison at a tie.

pplains, Saturday, 27 January 2018 03:22 (four months ago) Permalink

OK, feel like we're making progress here.

https://i.imgur.com/TMkybHs.jpg

pplains, Saturday, 27 January 2018 03:31 (four months ago) Permalink

carroll o'c did a nice slooow southern accent in 'in the heat of the night' despite being from nyc

mookieproof, Saturday, 27 January 2018 04:40 (four months ago) Permalink

I think people were expected to dress/look old, back in the day.

Mark G, Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:39 (four months ago) Permalink

I was watching God's Own Country last night and noticed how it inverted the sexist movie rulebook by having Ian Hart play the partner of Gemma Jones, who is 20 odd years his senior. Mind you he, fine actor as he is, is knackered and old looking enough looking to pull it off. Not meant in a shitty way, I've similar genes at work on me.

calzino, Saturday, 27 January 2018 10:53 (four months ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVBDw1GX4AAlCJr.jpg:small

mookieproof, Friday, 2 February 2018 17:01 (four months ago) Permalink

by having Ian Hart play the partner of Gemma Jones, who is 20 odd years his senior

The rulebook is intact; she plays his mother-in-law, as I remember it (not his mother, I don't think). At any rate, she is the grandmother of the protagonist. A few critics missed this too.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:05 (four months ago) Permalink

the son calls her "Nan" i think.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:06 (four months ago) Permalink

I must have misheard that as "mam".

calzino, Friday, 2 February 2018 17:40 (four months ago) Permalink

https://i.imgur.com/tDyNaxf.jpg

pplains, Friday, 2 February 2018 17:47 (four months ago) Permalink

Rarely have I ever wanted to actually punch a computer screen and yet.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 February 2018 17:48 (four months ago) Permalink

People scream at concerts?

http://www.babylonisburning.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/psycho-scream.jpeg

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:37 (four months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

how can you tell whether you have lower back pain in the morning because you old, or it's just time to replace your "2nd cheapest from Sears" mattress you bought 8 years ago?

― sarahell, Wednesday, January 24, 2018 11:06 PM (one month ago)

Update -- I rotated the mattress a few weeks back and now do not have the pain anymore.

sarahell, Saturday, 3 March 2018 20:52 (three months ago) Permalink

j., Saturday, 3 March 2018 20:58 (three months ago) Permalink


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