Things you were shockingly old when you learned

Interesting!

I was once contracted to edit and publish a history book on women's health for the U.S. government. Unfortunately this happened to be the year 2000. By the time it was to be published in 2001, a new presidential administration (hi, George Bush, hi Tommy Thompson) directed us to cut out content deemed controversial, which meant nothing about birth control, abortion, or (eek) lesbians.

The book shrank by half.

I read Lol Tolhurst talking about Hulme in Manchester and found out how bad the place was as residential area. I think I came across it about 10 years after he did and it was squats, artist residence etc. So I had a nostalgic image of it when it sounds like it was hellish for a family to be moved there.

Just realized chevron (the shape) is related to goat (the animal). Because of the horns.

Cf. Chevre, goat cheese.

Further adventures in pronounciation discovered at a shockingly old age: it's pronounced Laura Nee-ro, not Nye-ro. Hate it when that happens.

Oh wow

Like gyro

Huh?

my friend orders "jy-roes" in Greek restaurants and it drives me nuts

I do that too. I plead Jersey.

The gy in gyro rhymes with I and guy and pie in the UK too.

Just ask for a doner instead.

Are you telling me you also pronounce gyroscope that way because I can't quite believe that?

It's supposed to be yee-ros but obviously most places will understand you if you say jy-ros.

Of course there are also sandwiches called heroes.

Alba, they come from the same root! Turning or spinning.

Exactly

And we say them the same

https://www.rd.com/article/how-to-pronounce-gyro/

my friend orders "jy-roes" in Greek restaurants and it drives me nuts

I pronounce them hong-roes

This is the second piece of Hongro wordplay I've seen on ILE this week and I'm here for it.

Gyros is just the Greek word for a doner kebab, the Greeks being loath to give the Turks any credit for anything.

I'm sure they felt hard done-r

We were at our local Greek restaurant recently and the waitress came by to ask if we needed anything else.

My wife kicked me under the table because she knew I was about to sing WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER YEE-RO

OMG Jy-Ros is a capital crime where I come from!

courtesy of a mistake in my grocery delivery I have just learned that Grey Poupon mustard is not actually grey and is called that because it was invented by 2 blokes called Grey and Poupon

Someone once told me that they overheard someone else order 'FAH-ju-TAZZ' in a Mexican restaurant. One of the more impressively hilarious food-based mispronunciations I've ever encountered.

I worked in a California Mex restaurant, and I got:

"fuh-JAH-tas"
"fuh-JAI-tas"
"faj-tuhs"

but what I rarely got was tipped

we could eat yee-ros, just for one day

Not really shocking but I just learned a useful term that was borrowed from the French, jeune premier, which means a young man who plays romantic leads. See also jeune premiere for actresses.

Although actually the role is what’s young, not necessarily the actor playing it.

It means an actor who typically plays such roles.

I recently saw a high school production of "As You Like It" and tried to explain to my elder child how many layers of meaning must have been involved in Shakey times, having a boy play a girl who was pretending to be a boy etc. Etc. My kid was like, "uh, yeah, dad, it's 2024."

My Mexican uncle shook his head at the American pronunciations he had heard. His favorite was "jah-LAP-eh-nos."

While I am generally leery of bad anglicizations, we still make Paris rhyme with ferrous, and say Germany instead of Deutschland, etc.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/13409/pg13409-images.html#link2H_4_0017

wait, herod was jewish? i sorta assumed he was like, a... i guess a gentile roman lackey.

i did not learn until today that my mom wrote a chapter in the original Our Bodies, Ourselves ??!

this is incredible. and also*

i did not learn until today that my mom wrote a chapter in the original Our Bodies, Ourselves ??!

I saw somebody posting about that this week and was impressed! Also condolences, Tracer. She seemed pretty amazing. Saw her at many demonstrations and events over the years.

Thank you tipsy. I liked reading your piece about her.

i did not learn until today that my mom wrote a chapter in the original Our Bodies, Ourselves ??!

― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, January 23, 2024 4:19 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

This is amazing! I took classes with/was Judy Norsigi@n's assistant for a bit in grad school. Obsessed with OBOS so this is the coolest thing i've heard in a long time! Also, I didn't realize you lost your mom. I'm v sorry to hear.

Same, really sorry Tracer.

co-signed, my condolences, Tracer <3

Thank you all.

friend worked in a cafe with a person who insisted on pronouncing one of the tea offerings as sha-MOM-a-lee. Not jocularly, they insisted everyone else was wrong.

I had not one but two friends, decades apart, that insist the band Sepultura's name is pronounced "Seh-PUHL-tur-uh", even though the word is Portuguese and, similar to Spanish, places the stress on the second-to-last vowel for words that end in "A". I was a bit of a naive lapdog at the time (my 'best friend' was really a bully), so I started calling them that, then got made fun of for saying it wrong.

one of whom chased it by saying "only ignorant white people call them Seh-puhl-TOO-ruh". kinda wish he had been at the last Cavalera brothers show w/ me where Max said Sepultura the right way.

in conclusion Sepultura rules, REFUSE! RESIST!

whom = them

we still make Paris rhyme with ferrous

say what?

pa-ree

ferrous cross the Mersey

Paris Beuller's Day Off

Vs

Paree Hilton

TS