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Why does it exist? On the day I bought my bottle of vermouth there was a woman filling a shopping cart with two kinds of vermouth. It's cheap.

Do you ever drink just vermouth? What's worse is that I am drinking the red, sweet kind. Why do they sell vermouth in such large bottles?

I made some manhattans with it but they were awful. Is there any cocktail that it is actually good in?

fields of salmon, Friday, 19 December 2008 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link

vermouth

I love it.

sweet, dry, blanc, I love it.

I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Friday, 19 December 2008 07:53 (fifteen years ago) link

it seems to be one of those things like port or sherry that people like as an aperitif, yet the only thing I know it's good for is lining the glass of a gin martini...and then most of it is dumped out before the gin goes in.

Wiggy Woo, Friday, 19 December 2008 07:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I suppose it comes in such big bottles because it keeps longer than wine. I buy dry white vermouth only for cooking with, for this very reason. It also keeps longer because I'm never tempted to drink it, unlike wine. And it's cheaper.

bham, Friday, 19 December 2008 08:44 (fifteen years ago) link

you ppl who tip out the vermouth in yr martini are crazy! vermouth is key. i agree w/ I DIED that the sweet + dry are awesome altho i've never tried the blanc.

t_g, Friday, 19 December 2008 08:47 (fifteen years ago) link

if you order a martini anywhere in europe they will pour you a glass of vermouth over ice. it's a very popular drink.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 December 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

but yeah neat at room temperature it is pretty gak.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 December 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

A glass of vermouth over ice with a twist of orange is lovely, particularly noilly prat. Also the Martini's Bastard cousin the Gin and IT (half half gin and vermouth over ice with a twist) is very pleasant.

Ed, Friday, 19 December 2008 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link

yuck, my idea of a martini is for the bottle of vermouth to be opened up near the glass. That's it.

Bill Magill, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Rob Roys and Manhattans. Don't have much use for Vermouth by itself.

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

In fact I'm going to drink some Rob Roys tonight! Yay!

what U cry 4 (jim), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

news flash, people who like martinis without vermouth don't like martinis - they just like cold gin/vodka.

I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:25 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^

Carpano Antica is probably my favorite vermouth, really deep flavors that stand p well to a heavier cocktail like a rob roy or manhattan. It's a bit overpowering in something like a martini.

Vya also makes very good vermouth.

Dolin just started getting distributed around here, it's from Chambéry and the only vermouth granted an Appellation d' Origine. They're an independent producer, pretty rare. Their sweet and dry are good, but their blanc is extraordinary!

I would be happy to drink any of these chilled neat w/ a lemon twist.

I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

stand p well?

stand up well.

I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't stand sweet vermouth, but a dry manhattan with a twist is one of my favorite things.

lauren, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Carpano Antica in a manhattan is indeed amazing. It's my favourite vermouth, too. Probably second favourite is Punt E Mes, which has some bitterness to it but is otherwise quite similar to the Antica. I happily drink either of them neat.

Haven't had the Vya or the Dolin, although keep meaning to try both.

toby, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

"news flash, people who like martinis without vermouth don't like martinis - they just like cold gin/vodka."

No shit, sherlock.

Bill Magill, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

When I was just beginning to find out about alcohol, I never understand that a martini wasn't just a vermouth - as Tracer says, ask for a martini here, you get Martini brand vermouth.

ailsa, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i think ppl who dont like vermouth might be judging it from that musty old bottle that's been sitting on their shelf for a couple of years. vermouth can go off relatively quickly if it's not kept in the fridge

t_g, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I keep a bottle on the kitchen counter. It's great to pour in the bottom of the roasting pan, with meats or veggies. My mother drinks sort of a reverse-martini for a nightcap—vermouth on ice w/ a splash of gin.

Beth Parker, Friday, 19 December 2008 23:49 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

I just bought my first bottle of Dubonnet... technically not a vermouth, as it contains no wormwood; I think quinine is the bitter stuff.

Now I can make a:

Zaza cocktail

3/4 fluid ounce Dubonnet
1 1/2 fluid ounces gin

Garnish

twist of orange peel

Instructions

Stir gin and Dubonnet with ice and strain into a cocktail glass.
Add the twist of orange peel and serve.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 September 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

dubonnet is a sweet red vermouth and is nice to savor on its own, I haven't considered pairing it with gin

Dan S, Thursday, 24 September 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

although it sounds like it could be good

Dan S, Thursday, 24 September 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

So the Dubonnet cocktail was a hit... one part gin, two parts Dubonnet, slice of lemon, two large icecubes. It's what the Queen drinks, and the Queen Mother before her.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 28 September 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link


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