"i have a confession to make to you, baron: you are a CROOK!": the ERNST LUBITSCH poll

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I am only now, at last, watching a Lubitsch film ("Trouble In Paradise") for the first time and I'm thinking, "Uh oh. New favorite."

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 2 December 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

have McBride book from library

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The full schedule for To Save and Project, MoMA's annual festival of film preservation, is now on line! We open with the premiere of our own restoration of Ernst Lubitsch's FORBIDDEN PARADISE! https://t.co/J066veI356 pic.twitter.com/L3dATE6QzB

— MoMA Film (@MoMAFilm) December 13, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 December 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Pola Negri is quite the spitfire in Wildcat.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 January 2019 20:49 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

Just watched Cluny Brown, and it is great fun - Jennifer Jones is wonderful in it

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 1 August 2019 09:13 (four years ago) link

Just watched her firstborn do an interpretive dance in Easy Rider

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

Is that the daughter who committed suicide?

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Thursday, 1 August 2019 12:49 (four years ago) link

No, Robert Walker Jr., but that was a good question

U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 August 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

The scene where Mr. Matuschek quietly, in an attempt to salvage his dignity, hangs around the shop hoping one of his employees invites him home for Christmas Eve is so perfectly paced that I convulse.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link

So much stuff in that so well done. Maybe I already commented on it up thread, but I love the scene where the big display pile of boxes gets knocked over, there is stillness for a beat or two, and then they all scramble to restack them.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link

Like, yes, all these people actually work in this place. Which I dunno when else I have ever thought that, maybe The Mary Tyler Moore Show.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

I've been watching the shit out of Lubitsch lately (from the beginning of his talkie career, mostly in order). He's delightful and a new favorite. The Eclipse set of his musicals is one of the best Criterion purchases I've made in a while. Gonna watch Shop Around the Corner for the first time at some point over the next couple of days.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 24 December 2020 05:35 (three years ago) link

Yes that Eclipse thing is good

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link

Watching Shop Around the Corner tonight, love it forever & always

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:03 (three years ago) link

how much is that belt in the window? the one that says $2.95?

...it’s 2.95

oh no...

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 06:09 (three years ago) link

Like, yes, all these people actually work in this place.

Exactly this. Matuschek's combination of solicitude and distance -- he knows just enough about Flora living with her mother and no more and doesn't wanna know -- is exactly how bosses are.

The only dud: the actor playing Pepi is straight out of MGM overemoting.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

i still like when he gives Mrs Matuschek the business over the phone though

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

Eh, I like Pepi. I always suspect he's off to pick up a prostitute at the end of the film, but maybe I'm reading it wrong.

Langdon Alger Stole the Highlights (cryptosicko), Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

He is!

I like when he mutters to Rudi, "Too much. "

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

yes! love that

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 24 December 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

It’s true that Pepi seems to be phoning in from a different movie, as Alfred suggests, but I don’t mind him.

Whamagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

he's the comic relief to a comedy!
died super young

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

Will have to look that up. Also, what's the deal with Schildkraut again, I forget.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link

He played Dreyfus!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link

Shop was great! Positively chaste, though, compared to the endless sexcapades I've grown accustomed to in Lubitsch's pre-Code work. I'm kinda just letting it settle over me at the moment but I can see why it's a perennial holiday favorite.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 December 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

The quaver in Sullavan's voice is sex.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 December 2020 10:35 (three years ago) link

i've only watched 2 lubitches so far, To Be Or Not To Be which i found to be the greatest comedy i've ever seen, and Heaven Can Wait, which i didn't like at all

flopson, Sunday, 27 December 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

That’s about right

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

ha, I like HCW okay, but it's definitely at the bottom of the list of the ones I've seen, p surprised it got even one vote in the thread poll.

TBONTB is amazing. Trouble in Paradise would probably be the consensus rec on what to watch next—and it's fantastic—but I might suggest Ninotchka or The Shop around the Corner instead.

rob, Sunday, 27 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

Trouble in Paradise is super necessary. Shop Around the Corner is roughly comparable but less mannered.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

Prefer The Shop but Trouble pretty good too.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

Also Design for Living and Cluny Brown.

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

DFL is high on my list of need-to-rewatch; I think the premise misled me to expect something much wilder, so I wasn't sure what I thought of it the one time I saw it. I got Cluny Brown (and Holiday; #onethread) for xmas

rob, Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

Cluny Brown has long been a favorite. Charles Boyer handles pages and pages of English-in-every-sense dialogue like a pro.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

Charles Boyer so good, but never got into that movie, sorry.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

i fuggin LOVE cluny brown and i mention this at least once a year but jennifer jones in chirrupy mode is peak sexy in that film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6F9GQ3VlXw

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

The only films in which I can stand her are this, Beat the Devil, and Duel in the Sun, though I should watch Portrait of Jennie

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

Nuts to the squirrels!

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

Where do we stand on his Maurice Chevalier films? I've only seen The Smiling Lieutenant, which does have a bit of the touch, but I'm just not wild about the star's persona.

Langdon Alger Stole the Highlights (cryptosicko), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link

I really like a few of them.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:43 (three years ago) link

Two with Jeanette MacDonald, One Hour With You and The Merry Widow, don’t think I’ve seen the others.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link

By which I mean The Love Parade and the non-Lubitsch Love Me Tonight.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

He is really well-cast as a Lubitsch protagonist. He is also good in Lubitsch, um, disciple Billy Wilder’s Love in the Afternoon, although overall that film kind of bugs me.

And Then There’s Maudit (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

Chevalier had one mode: chivalrous horndog. It works in his comedies, as long as you don't watch them too closely together. But it jars in Pièges, where he is supposed to be a suspect. (Stalker, yes, but sex murderer?)

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

The Lubitsch/Chevalier films I've seen are delightful. The MacDonald minus Chevalier film (Monte Carlo) slightly less so (Jack Buchanan comes off as more of a creep than an impish cad).

Really wish either that Trouble in Paradise and The Merry Widow were available on blu-ray or that I was less uptight about buying them as-is (as I know the b-r announcement will drop immediately after I buy a lower-fi copy, as always).

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:02 (three years ago) link

i find his musical stuff mostly unwatchable but that's more a personal prejudice than a critical judgment

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 December 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link

This thread revive prompted us to watch Trouble in Paradise tonight, which I'd never seen. Total delight.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 December 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link

Unsurprisingly, Cluny Brown was completely brilliant. So many great lines that won't sound that funny written out: "if England must produce more Belinskis, then we shall produce more Belinskis" and everything Betty Cream says to the two young men in the party scene.

We'd watched Emma. (2020) the previous night, which made for an inadvertently well-programmed double bill about class in England (though perhaps inevitably due to their respective sources, the 1946 film is sharper than the 2020), not to mention that Bill Nighy would fit into CB seamlessly.

rob, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

the HONORABLE Betty Cream, thanks.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

Nice to watch Peter Lawford score with a comedic role perfectly in his range.

The dinner scene with the roast beef.

Belinksi bumping into Cluny and Wilson when out walking.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 December 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link


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