http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/06/john-hughes-dies/
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
omg RIP
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP
― grocery groin (snoball), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay. Seriously. FUCK 2009. :-( I first didn't want to believe it was John. Another John. Again FUCK.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
2009 has really been the worst year.
― grocery groin (snoball), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
whoah wtf
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link
megaRIP
Are you happy now Gene Siskel?!?!
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
might put on pretty in pink and cry
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
and so soon after the success of Drillbit Taylor
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Wow. And weird: I just bought the Reach the Rock soundtrack on CD yesterday.
― jaymc, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
As much as I love the Ringwald trilogy, and Some Kind of Wonderful, I often think of Ferris Bueller as one of the most perfect movies ever made. Or maybe it's just because I've seen it 100 times and know every nook and cranny of it. Either way, I'll miss him.
I just saw Uncle Buck for the first time about a month ago (I don't know how I'd missed it all these years), and it made me really bum out over the loss of John Candy. And now Hughes is gone too. :(
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Uncle Buck is awesome.
RIP John Hughes. :-(
― ENBB, Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
there's really obnoxious race/class stuff in all his movies and Ferris is kinda the worst about it but if I had to rank 'em it would be - Breakfast Club, 16 Candles, Pretty in Pink, Ferris>>>everything else
Breakfast Club is so goofily earnest, just like high school
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's the thread where we talk about the greatness that is the She's Having A Baby soundtrack...
Bimble's response to op is classic for me btw.
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Just bght pretty ost at the flea market the other day. Also now realize i prob already have it.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't realize that he didn't direct PiP!
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 August 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
"Man hath but a short time to liveand is full of miseryHe cometh upand is cut down like a flowerHe fleeth as if it were a shadow -- and never continueth in one stay"
― omar little, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
between grief and nothing, i'll take grief
He did much more writing and producing than directing, actually.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
some of his stuff that i read in the national lampoon as a kid seriously screwed me up and helped make me the screw-up that i am today. i think that's a compliment. breakfast club and pretty in pink certainly huge cultural moments for my generation.
i mean, i read this when i was eleven:
http://www.tgfa.org/fiction/MyVagina.htm
― scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
awwwwww man.
Thanks for the 7 or 8 movies that I've seen 20+ times each, JH.
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
and if you are gonna read My Vagina by John Hughes, you have to read My Penis too. it's only fair.
http://www.tgfa.org/fiction/MyPenis.htm
― scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I hope heaven is full of girls falling for the wrong guy
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
This is true of John, just as it is true of Ferris:
http://www.idiotsavant.com/ftp/sounds/dude.wav
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Am lighting 16 candles in tribute.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
couldn't find it on youtube, but I shoulda written my thesis about this scene.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=7284684
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit, I had no idea John Hughes wrote that "My Vagina" thing; I read that when I was a kid and it was like "WOAH"
― I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Hughes was responsible for Drillbit Taylor?
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Home Alone brings me unparalleled delight. RIP
― watch me superban dat ho (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
As much as I love the Ringwald trilogy, and Some Kind of Wonderful, I often think of Ferris Bueller as one of the most perfect movies ever made.
otmfmtwist and shout scene one of my favourite cinematic moments
― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP 1980's
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
apparently stirrup leggings are back, though.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Definitely had little use for him, but he shaped my perceptions of what constitutes a teen comedy (so that others could do it better); and he had a way with a one-liner.
His Vacation script is still the best thing he did.
― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
To me Planes, Trains, and Automobiles has always been his best. I won't spoil it to those who haven't seen it, but I think John Candy's character in that movie is one of the best written and performed roles in any Hollywood comedy ever.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP.
I remember watching Breakfast Club's ending over and over when I a was a teenager... Not that it hasn't happened since. RIP.
― J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
PT&A is probably his "best", but I have seen Ferris and BC so many more times.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I've only seen PT&A once, and it's been a long time. I should def re-see.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
BC would otherwise be perfect, but I hate how Ally Sheedy's transformation from "goth" to "normal" is supposed to be like a happy ending.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
That moment represents everything I despise about Hughes; I always thought he tried to atone by making PIP's Duckie as unabashedly weird ('gay') as possible.
― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link
haha oh Tuomaspaws
― girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
except that Duckie is TOTALLY gay, the resolution for his character makes no sense! I dunno, all his movies have problems.
I love them, problems and all.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, pairing Ally Sheedy with Emilio Estevez in the end seemed a bit too convenient. The romance between Molly Ringwald and the bad boy felt credible, but that other one didn't. It seemed like they wanted to give a happy ending to everyone. (Except for the nerd guy, but who cares about nerds.)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, Hughes wants it both ways: every bit of clothing and mannerism signals that he's queer, yet is convincingly in love with Ringwald.
― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
(Duckie, that is)
In all fairness, it is patently obvious that:
1) Ally Sheedy's character acts and dresses the way she does because no one ever pays attention to her;2) The makeover is the only way Molly Ringwald's character knows how to express wanting to do something nice for her;3) Emilio Estevez's character is attracted to her well before the makeover happens.
It's pretty genius in its simplistic/not simplistic construction, IMO.
― I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Again, a problem with the story that separates it from reality and makes it a movie. xxxp
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link
wau Dan, you're right!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Adventureland Soundtrack
1. Satellite Of Love - Lou Reed2. Modern Love - David Bowie3. I’m In Love With A Girl - Big Star4. Just Like Heaven - The Cure5. Rock Me Amadeus - Falco6. Don’t Change - INXS7. Your Love - The Outfield8. Don’t Dream It’s Over - Crowded House9. Looking For A Kiss - The New York Dolls10. Don’t Want To Know If You Are Lonely - Husker Du11. Unsatisfied - The Replacements12. Pale Blue Eyes - The Velvet Underground13. Farewell Adventureland - Yo La Tengo14. Adventureland Theme Song - Brian Kenney
― jaymc, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Pretty close, jaymc!
Meanwhile, we definitely need more movies exploring the horror that lurks beneath the placid surface of the suburbs. Forget for the time being that the suburbs, generally speaking, are indeed actually pretty toothless and tame. We demand the truth, and the truth is never as neat as the nice yards and good schools of the North Shore suburbs. That's all a myth that the Man wants you to buy into, man. (If you can afford it.)
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Like this one. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0254888/
Unflinching, man.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Damned stoner.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 August 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
or like those lameasses Updike and Cheever, amirite?
you guys are Buellers, essentially. Methinks thou dost protest in spades.
Ms Kael:
The Breakfast ClubUS (1985): Drama 97 min, Rated R, Color, Available on videocassette and laserdisc
Set mostly in the library of a suburban Chicago high school, this encounter-session movie by the writer-director John Hughes is about five students-a cross-section of the student body-who in the course of serving a 7-4 Saturday detention peel off their layers of self-protection, confess their problems with their parents, and are stripped down to their "true selves." The five are: a champion wrestler (Emilio Estevez), a popular redhead "princess" (Molly Ringwald), a grind (Anthony Michael Hall), a glowering rebel-delinquent (Judd Nelson) who wears an earring, and a shy, skittish weirdo (Ally Sheedy). With the exception of Sheedy, who's a marvellous comic sprite and transcends her role until she is jerked back into the script mechanics, the movie is about a bunch of stereotypes who complain that other people see them as stereotypes. Hughes has talent, and when the kids are just killing time the dialogue has an easy, buggy rhythm, but this is a very wet enterprise. It appeals to young audiences by blaming adults for the kids' misery and enshrining the kids' most banal longings to be accepted and liked. Judd Nelson, who is supposed to represent what authorities want to crush, has the worst-conceived role, though Paul Gleason's part as the callous dean is a close runner-up. Also with John Kapelos as the school janitor.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link
and on Pretty in Pink:
John Hughes, who wrote the script and supervised the work of the first-time director, Howard Deutch, never goes beyond a kid's point of view; this picture isn't actually about teenagers--it's closer to being a pre-teen's idea of what it will be like to be a teenager. In its sociological details, it might have been made by little guys from Mars.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link
she did like Sixteen Candles though.
― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's really a shame she never reviewed Weird Science
― da croupier, Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
you guys are Buellers, essentially.
You're Rooneying all over this thread.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Having only seen five terrible minutes of FB before turning it off, Morbs might not even get the reference.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't -- Jeffrey Jones? not into little boys.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 August 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
are links to reviews from Kael supposed to be powerful evidence in your favor?
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
"ok I haven't seen this movie, but Kael hated it!"
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Not the most original thought ever, but both Ferris Bueller and Election are improved if you imagine that Broderick is playing the same person. All his smartassery got him nowhere!
(I like FB even though I think Ferris is a dick - it gets by on exuberance + supporting cast.)
― Simon H., Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
The movie deals with how selfish Ferris is too. Cameron finally calls him on it.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
As I've gotten older, I kind of see Jennifer Grey as the hero of the movie.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
oh damn. Just heard this news now! RIP.
― De Mysteriis Dom Passantino (jim), Saturday, 8 August 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Actually, I've never seen Bueller either, I just know Dennis Perrin is kinda full of crap.
Planes, Tranes . . . is by far my favorite Hughes.
― Id rather dig ditches than pull another dudes string (Pancakes Hackman), Saturday, 8 August 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89Ou-iK2_kQ
is funnier if you picture Morbs as Linda Fiorentino and everyone else as Jay & Silent Bob.
― Id rather dig ditches than pull another dudes string (Pancakes Hackman), Saturday, 8 August 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I've seen both those movies, so please fuck the piss off.
Josh in Chicago seems particularly dense, but I'll chlk it up to Hughesmovie chauvinism. SO PROUD
btw I have no memory of that Bueller "draft-dodging uncle" bit, cuz it's not in the movie.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Pancakes, you deserve the Indians.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
The Indians that you said were going to win the division? Or the real ones?
― Id rather dig ditches than pull another dudes string (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 9 August 2009 13:21 (fourteen years ago) link
As soon as I saw that this thread existed, I had already read it.
Except for comparing Bueller to Breathless. Never saw that coming. Thanks for that.
― Black bread and Victory gin AGAIN? (kenan), Sunday, 9 August 2009 13:27 (fourteen years ago) link
was gonna get behind the godard/hughes thing for the hell of it but couldn't think of a good angle
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Sunday, 9 August 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link
AO Scott took care of it for ya already
But I don’t think I’m alone among my cohort in the belief that John Hughes was our Godard, the filmmaker who crystallized our attitudes and anxieties with just the right blend of teasing and sympathy. Mr. Godard described “Masculin Féminin,” his 1966 vehicle for Jean-Pierre Leaud and Ms. Karina, as a portrait of “the children of Marx and Coca-Cola.” Mr. McCarthy and Ms. Ringwald, in “Pretty in Pink,” were corresponding icons for the children of Ronald Reagan and New Coke.
― heavin' flho (s1ocki), Sunday, 9 August 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
( http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/08/movies/08appraisal.html )
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, August 9, 2009 6:06 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I never made it past the first 5 obnoxious minutes of "Ferris."
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Friday, August 7, 2009 6:54 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
^aspergers
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
"I didn't see the movie, but I saw the trailer and I can basically judge a movie from that"
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean I'm honestly confused now, did you see all of ferris bueller?
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean you'd have no memory of ANY bueller bit, right?
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
the draft dodger thing in the screenplay was quoted from the opening scene (which I saw)
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
now go teach yr Hughes/Fitzgerald seminar
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Man those 5 minutes really had an impact on you.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
srsly though you should watch it sometimes. Jennifer Grey is really funny in it.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 9 August 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Was anyone else disconcerted when Molly Ringwald went from the ultimate outsider in "Sixteen Candles" (even though she got the guy in the end, to the popularity queen in "Breakfast Club"? It made more sense for me when she returned to quirky with "Pretty in Pink." Somehow, I never really believed her as the popular one, for in the Hughes canon, this is usually the buxom blonde cheerleader.
I watched these films in junior high--they were always enjoyable, but even at the time I felt they were incredibly stereotypical and unbelievable. Looking back, the standout performance for me is Jon Cryer as "Duckie." Anthony Michael Hall also confused me by going from uber dork to BMOC not much later in his career.
Nice fashions and aesthetics though, and yes the "Pretty in Pink" soundtrack is amazing. I want what MW is wearing in the first pic:
http://themoment.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/07/teen-spirit-a-john-hughes-style-tribute/
― Virginia Plain, Sunday, 9 August 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
molly on john.
― flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 07:23 (fourteen years ago) link
John was my Truffaut.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Might or might not be further evidence for the 'Ferris was a jerk' school.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 August 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
The Great Outdoors is a kind of an odd one in that although I remember enjoying it as a kid, I was probably fully aware that it was just a Vacation/Planes, Trains and Automobiles knockoff. A re-watch confirms this: I would not be at all surprised if Hughes had cobbled together the script almost entirely from outtakes from those other two. The direction, by the guy who helmed Pretty in Pink and Some Kind of Wonderful is horribly slapdash as well. The whole thing, from conception to shooting and editing, gives the impression of being a rush job to make a summer release date (which probably was the case).
The subtitled racoons are still pretty funny, though.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 22 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Tru.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link
the raccoons and the steak and having to eat the gristle are all i remember about this movie
― beer say hi to me (stevie), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link
They're all that are worth remembering.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link
the raccoons and the Ol' '96er are the only decent in a gruesome fucking movie (Annette Bening's in it!)
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 August 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link
https://www.criterion.com/films/29272-the-breakfast-club
50 minutes of never-before-seen deleted and extended scenes
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 October 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
god i wonder how many of these will be "problematic"
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Monday, 16 October 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link
Kind of love that Molly is a lefty pundit on Facebook now.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 October 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link
The most eloquent and detailed review that will probably ever be written of She's Having a Baby: https://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2021/03/shes-having-a-baby.html
― edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Monday, 29 March 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
Morbs goin' HAM upthread.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 29 March 2021 21:46 (three years ago) link
classic morbs in maximum annoying mode. complete with denis perrin links and pauline kael c&p
― 《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 March 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link