Cinematic soundtrack juxtapositions which defy belief

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So there I am, rocking in from the pub late doors on Wednesday. What happens to be on the TV but the last half hour or so of The Chase, no brainer satire of the kidnapped rich bitch school (though I say The Chase is superior to both A Life Less Ordinary and Excess Baggage but I digress). Anyhow, after the Henry Rollins giggling subsided we got to the finale in which a portly Charlie Sheen has let heiress Kristy Swanson (regretting that missed Buffy chance I daresay) go.

Charlie sits mulling over what to do next. There are a hundred police officers with guns trained on him around the car. Does he go out and make a gesture and go down in a blaze of glory. Or should he go flog ice creams in Worthing.

Y'see whilst the rest of the film is soundtracked in 1994 post grunge nonsense and Chilli Peppers off cuts, this poignant moment is underscored by The Next Life by Suede. Fey English Indie mixed with Sheen's macho bullshit - but at least it makes a bit of sense in the plot. You assume that they will fade it before Brett goes half cocked on becoming an ice-cream salesman in a minor seaside resort. But do they buggery. I would just like to imagine what the initial audience would have made of that?

And I ask are there any othere cinematic soundtrack juxtapositions which defy belief.

Pete, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

The bit in "Reality Bites" where the grunge guy sings "Add it Up" brings the whole film to a crashing halt for me.
Also, in a cataclysmic juxtaposition, 'The Big Lebowski' has a great soundtrack, and is also one of the worst films ever made.

tarden, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is it? Why?

DG, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
'Lebowski' certainly was a bit of a let-down (for me) - simply because the Coen Bros. have their personal filmmaking bar raised much higher than the rest of the Hollywood morons out there, but..."worst film ever made"? Sheesh, that's just a little (if the young Mo Ali's ego was "just a little") overboard. They (Brothers Coen) certainly can do (and have done) much better, but...still...it was better than most released from that same year (maybe not top 10, but probably top 20 that year).

michael g. breece, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
In year's-worst-film Shrek there's a bit where John Cale's cover of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" suddenly starts playing. It is excruciating.

Tom, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Not John Cale, its Rufus Wainwright and it is sweet and much lovlier then the song entitles. The worst does however come from Shrek . Samshmouth doing daudream beliver.

anthony, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Are you SURE it's Rufus Wainwright? If so his version is really really close to Cale's.

Tom, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yes. I own the Soundtrack . I have not heard Cales though.

anthony, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

my proof

anthony, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ahh, but one of the Amazon.com reviews sez that for another of the songs they use a different version to the one in the film. So maybe that happened here.

Tom, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I OWN THE SOUNDTRACK. THE SOUNDTRACK LISTING SAYS RUFUS. RUFUS HAS SAID HE HAS DONE IT. IT IS BY MOTHERFUCKING RUFUS WAINWRIGHT !
sorry oon occasion i have to be right .

anthony, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anthony I know it is Rufus on the soundtrack but IS IT RUFUS ON THE FILM???

Tom, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Salon review: "In a pivotal scene, when Shrek and his true love are separated, their feelings of despair and isolation are played out against John Cale's version of Leonard Cohen's crestfallen anthem "Hallelujah." "

Barnes And Noble: "Rufus Wainwright's cover of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" (not heard in the film, where it was sung by John Cale, but Wainwright is part of the DreamWorks family and he has an album coming out a few weeks after the release of Shrek)"

I WIN! I WIN!

Sorry ;)

The more I think about Shrek the more awful it seems.

Tom, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Wasn't that version of Daydream Believer completely ripped off the Reeves & Mortimer/EMF version? Right down to the 'ad lib' fadeout. Or did they rip it off Smashmouth?

That version of Hallelujah is awful, whoever did it. Jeff Buckley's version will rule forever, so says I.

John Davey, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i am know shrinking away like a whelped dog.

anthony, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

it's a cover of 'i'm a believer.' it's horrible. smashmouth = another band that's already ready for vegas.

ps "shrek" beats out "ampie2" for worst film of the year because of its feel-goodist 'everyone is beautiful on the inside but we're still going to have cameron diaz voice the woman who's ugly at the end' posturing. that said i also did have to sit through "enemy at the gates" this year which was just drawn. out. too. very. much.

maura, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shrek is also terrible because it says it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside - its what is inside that counts. Unless you are short - in which case you are fair game for ridicule.

Pete, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

BEST film of the year however is Help! I'm A Fish!

OK, best title.

Tom, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shrek is also terrible because it says it doesn't matter what you look like on the outside - its what is inside that counts. Unless you are short - in which case you are fair game for ridicule.

Except, of course, that's not really a true or fair thing to say about the movie. A more accurate representation is, "People should be judged by their character. If a person's character is found wanting, then any imperfections about that person are fair game for ridicule because you shouldn't be that horrid to people without being willing to take it."

This has been my personal motto since being spat upon by assholes in junior high. Despite this, people have this notion that I am nice.

Dan Perry, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think you are being far too kind - and also incorrect - about Shrek there. After all if we are to treat the characters the way they treat characters then all of the major characters do not deserve the initial time of day. Donkey is too pushy, the Princess is frankly more than snobby about appearance and the way things should be done and as for sShrek - he is downright rude and anti-social. They all judge each other on appearance ('cept Donkey - who is a Donkey and not really involved in the love triangle shenanigans) and all get taught the hoary old lesson of what's inside counting. Except Farquaad who is ridiculed from the moment the film starts for his height (and the associated deficiencies in the penis size department). He is never given the chance to change because he is the bad guy - following yet another short person stereotype.

He of course is played by the very tall John lithgow - to over emphasis Maura's point. Indeed the only proper casting in that film is Eddie Murphy as Donkey - for he truly is a jackass.

Pete, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Damn you folks. I didn't mind Shrek at all. Though the "Hallelujah" bit was indeed skin-crawlingly awful. And the AmeriScott accent. Overall, though, it was perfectly acceptable entertainment. But, as one of Tom's loyal minions, I have no choice but to accept his word as true and infallible. So, what did the rest of you think?

Mitch Lastnamewitheld, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Wasn't The Smiths' Panic notoriously used in some topless party scene in an Italian horror movie?

Nick, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

After all if we are to treat the characters the way they treat characters then all of the major characters do not deserve the initial time of day.

This is absolutely true. However, as the movie goes on, both Shrek and Fiona show themselves to be nice people underneath their public fronts. Donkey's huge crime is aggressive optimism. Farquaad is a mean-spirited selfish tool throughout.

I'm not arguing that the movie is deep and meaningful because it just isn't. It's shallow family entertainment with some amazing animation and a hilarious scene involving the torture of the Gingerbread Man. This is what I was expecting from the movie and I was emminently satisfied with what I got.

Dan Perry, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three months pass...
Does any one know where I can get a copy of John Cale's version of Hallelujah? The record company "Valley Records Distribution" have gone out of business. Thanks.

Chris, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

e mail me , i have a copy on mp3 if you just want the single

anthonyeaston, Monday, 10 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
I'm sort of hoping this link is as dead as the dates suggest, because I'm sure the reaction to my post will be fairly negative. First of all, Shrek isn't a horrible, gut-wrenchingly awful film...it's a beautifully crafted (but somewhat cold) children's movie that has some smarts for the adults. I'm curious to know why everyone hates this film so much.

Secondly, I'm both a Rufus Wainwright and a Leonard Cohen fan, and I truly find Wainwright's version of Cohen's Hallelujah to be an excellent adaptation of the original. Wainwright's tendency toward operatic swooning somehow works...in a completely opposite way from Cohen's croakingly effective gruffness. Please tell me why you disagree.

Jana Tiglar, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jana, you're my GURL!

Dan Perry, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Please tell me why you disagree.

Because Rufus Wainwright deserves to be beaten with sticks for existing. Good deal Jeff Buckley's dead, imagine a duet between those two bastards.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Partners In Prosperity" (British Transport Films, 1980, dir. Nick Nicholls)

"Lochlaggan" by Muir Mathieson and the New Concert Orchestra, a few minutes away from the sort of corporate music c.1979 whose sound Air pastiched so exactly on "10,000 Hz Legend". Amazing, and even more so because Butskellism presides over the film with such self- assurance that you'd never believe it was speaking from its deathbed.

Carlin and / or Inglesfield might just understand this.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

THE NEW ROYAL CARBIEAN CRUISE LINES IS SOUNDTRACKED BY HEROIN ADDICT/GLASS ROLLER/MAOSCHIST/PUNK ROCK GOD IGGY POP. A CRUISE LINE AND LUST FOR LIFE. NO IT STILL MAKES ME SICK. HEY HEROIN ADDICTS THE IDLE RICH IS KILLING YOUR BUZZ. MOTHER FUCKERS

anthony, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Does any one know where I can get a copy of John Cale's version of Hallelujah? The record company "Valley Records Distribution" have gone out of business. Thanks."

I'd say the definitive version is on his live album, "Fragments of a Rainy Season".

For me, the most incongruous soundtrack is the one in "Cannibal Holocaust". An absolutely sublime, transcendental classical score totally undermined by the fact that the film itself is cinematic dogshit. My ex loved it, but she was a total sicko.

Trevor, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

five months pass...
Cale's "Hallelujah" (found on the Cohen cover album "I'm Your Fan") is gorgeous. I got Buckley's version yesterday after a long wait and was sorely disappointed. I think the song deserves to be rendered in a world-weary croak, and Buckley just sounded too blithe and young and pretty. It didn't dig into my bones like the Cale version did when I first heard it -- I just didn't feel much emotion behind the song. Ah well. How is Wainwright, compared to these two? Come to that, how's the original?

kite, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link


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