Taking Sides: Midsomer Murders vs 24

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i feel it quotidian that we are mindlessly ebbing towards the quite gratuitously overrated 24 show, where one has to admit the exact same things happen every week, i.e. family's in danger, jack gets in his car, gaines can't produce sputum without appending the word "jack" to it, there's an explosion, an invariably duplicitous minor character gets bumped off, palmer doesn't know whether to unveil the awful truth re. his son, that is if it is the truth, nina is a sex goddess, etc.

whereas the humble midsomer murders with steve mcqueen lookylikey john nettles is a carpet slipper of a programme and comforts all and sundry with its charming rep reliable hamming, its recycled ngaio marsh plots, its resemblance to morse minus the few things which made morse interesting (even though it's filmed in wallingford?). and it is a true joy, although sadly more scarce now, to see nettles gleefully cooking a fry-up whenever his wife/daughter are away. like paul eddington grooving to engelbert humperdinck with a glass of qc sherry in the good life while margo's out. it is cosy and i stand in its defence.

Maurice E, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

then again nina is not in midsomer. with all due respect to british equity dci barnaby's wife/daughter = kwik save yellowed lettuce.

Maurice E, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

same thing happens in 24 ervery "week" cuz only one day's worth of happening is happening

mark s, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no man it's the same goddam hour that happens. every hour the same. every hour a palindrome. like that cat trapped on the island with the balloons - that was the same, viz. i am number 2 who is number 1 ain't tellin' ya why did you resign fuck off im gettin outa here release the balloons oof right number 6 time for some treatment and the token vulnerable woman who always betrays you at the end no im on your side number 6 no im not ha ha ha.

except instead of being carpet slippers its like wearing chris brasher mountain boots to go to the goddam laundromat.

the problem with 24 is that it lacks a certain guile that can only be arrived at by adopting a more, shall we say, "indie" perspective.

Maurice E, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

my indie perspective = i watch big brother

mark s, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

surely 24 v spooks FITE!

I watched the first Spooks and was so appalled by acting and script that I was actively discouraging other people from watching it. Then saw that the Guardian Guide was saying how great it was, WEEK AFTER WEEK, so watched one that it had singled out for a lengthy review and it was still utter SHITE. I spotted them saying Will & Grace is "funny". = I have lost all faith in guardian Guide reviews.

Alan T, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

haha yes private eye also bigged up SPOOKS recently = it is k-rub of a rarely-seen and maximal type (even tho jenny agutter forced some guy to fuck her up against a corridor wall two weeks ago)

mark s, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

As if anyone would have any faith in Guardian Guide "reviewers" to begin with!

Yes, Spooks - not exactly up to the standard of "that cat trapped on the island with the balloons" is it?

As for Six Feet Under - potentially interesting, but in practice the usual familial dysfunctional cliches with different clothes on.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

wherefore yr faith in them in the first place alang?

mark s, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that was the one i saw. i thought it looked like jenny "kit off" agutter. urk.

Alan T, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

my indie perspective = i watch cartoons because i cannot understand '24'

at the risk of opening up a whole barrel of (indie) monkeys here, what's an 'indie perspective', maurice? i'm genuinely intrigued by the concept and i'm interested in hearing yr definition of it

geeta, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

indie perspective because indie is the only thing that is open to everything, doesn't put things in a box, is reality. big brother is a cartoon as is 24. everyone disses indie on these boards but it is the light, the way and the truth.

so even though midsomer is itv, still indie because fundamentally it doesn't give a fuck - it's the difference between belle & sebastian and the cooper temple clause.

Maurice E, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

they write for guardian guide = they are monkeys

mark s, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

isnt the 'indie perspective' a bit like the 'nonconformist consensus'?

geeta, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ah no that was the oxford movement - therefore, inspector morse, which is quite clearly not indie.

have you ever read the morse books? jesus wept, they're worse than the tv. tend to read in the vein of:

morse instinctively knew that an intransitive verb had been improperly used in the dative rather than the ablative case, given the absence of a subject.

oh yes.

he did.

and there was grief he felt too, as not three miles beyond, halfway up cumnor hill, professor napoleon k jobdocket - an all souls fellow, needless to say - had met a most untimely end following a not entirely necessary debate with the sharp end of a pair of specially sharpened pinking shears.

and he was now pink behind the ears.

oh yes.

Maurice E, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

very well paid monkeys. well MUCH better paid than me :-(

Alan T, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There are two big climaxes in "24" at 12:00 and at midnight. Really, the most interesting part of the show is the back-and-forth in the Palmer campaign after 7:00 AM.

Dan Perry, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You work in London, Alan, your wage shits on mine.

Matt, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

From a great height.

Matt, Monday, 17 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

seven years pass...

Baltimore not as violent as Midsomer says Mayor.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 28 August 2009 09:23 (sixteen years ago)

or not. check the correction. someone should ban the guardian from writing about the wire and twitter before they embarrass themselves any more.

joe, Friday, 28 August 2009 11:30 (sixteen years ago)

the thing is, the graun has embarrassed itself by wanting to believe that a politician came out with something genuinely witty! there's something really sweet about that.

la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major), Friday, 28 August 2009 11:52 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/mediamonkeyblog/2009/aug/28/wire-television

Alba, Friday, 28 August 2009 12:41 (sixteen years ago)

I am so disappointed, I really thought that just maybe Midsomer had crossed over to Atlantic. I was really enjoying the idea of the Mayor of Baltimore sitting in her office watching Nettles tackle yet another gruesome multi-murder and calling to her aides "At least we don't live in Causton".

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 28 August 2009 13:47 (sixteen years ago)

sixteen years pass...

Watching an early version of Midsomer Murders at the moment and CI Barnaby's sidekick just used the phrase "bum bandits", I almost spat out my tea.

Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 May 2026 08:21 (one month ago)

...episode not version...

Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 May 2026 08:22 (one month ago)

In Caroline Graham's books (on which the TV series was based), Troy was a married homophobe who cheats on his wife.

Wry & Slobby (Portsmouth Bubblejet), Saturday, 9 May 2026 13:00 (one month ago)

This was actually the pilot episode replete with gory, violent murders, a suicide, an incestuous brother/ sister relationship and hints of an incestuous mother/ son relationship, in case one incestuous relationship wasn't enough. Plus "bum bandits".

Clarinet Cop (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 May 2026 14:27 (one month ago)

So, a documentary.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 May 2026 14:48 (one month ago)


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