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seems like a halfway measure

anyway, to get on “topic”:

Wikipedia, for reference

brimstead, Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

what is a uniform distribution anyway, ehh who cares, here you go

brimstead, Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

I am not sure why my bona fides are now under question when you can’t answer why you were making a daft generalisation about the AMAB experience

okay ... uh ... you realize you are kinda proving Branwell's point ... like, why are _you_ on the attack? Why is this "answer" important to you? Why don't you stay in your lane? ... Now you can easily flip that on me, fair game. ...

My stake here is that I have been the subject of ilx pile-ons, I have seen other posters receive this treatment unfairly, and I have had friends experience this type of treatment IRL. It feels like bullying and punching down and is painful to see people I generally like and respect participate in something like this. It is super fucking traumatizing to the person being attacked.

Now, sometimes, the person being piled-on has legitimately wronged someone, or there is past history, like what sic referred to (whether correctly or incorrectly), but this type of interaction is not going to make that person "better" ... assuming the intent is to get the person being attacked to take accountability and make amends and work on bettering themself? If the intent is punishment, then y'all are doing a great job at inflicting that. If y'all want some catharsis, you might be getting that too. But otherwise, this just sucks.

In the context of the incident that provoked this, there are two main people involved, both of whom are already dealing with trauma, ... Branwell has clearly described theirs and Brad's responses to the posts definitely indicate a sensitivity that is totally related to trauma ... and that makes this toxic pile-on even worse to watch, esp. when you have "more privileged" posters joining in the pile-on.

sarahell, Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

Starting to wish I'd just gone to r/askreddit.

That feeling when you inadvertently step in some dog poop, but actually it's a mine field and the mines are filled with dog poop and shards of glass. Gah. Sorry.

pizzagnostic (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

sarahell, did you read the block quoted text where Branwell attacked gyac's character, which had zero relevance to the argument?

braised cod, Saturday, 1 August 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

wow @ this
I'm not reading what you say
I'm going to judge it anyway
Now you listen to me!

I know such "discussion" board behaviour is common but it's unusual to see it so candidly admitted.

オニモ (onimo), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 12:21 (three years ago) link

I saw the new Troye Sivan video and was startled at how much he's kinda biting a Patrick Wolf look and almost posted "Patrick Wolf got fucked so that Troye could get fisted, huh" but then I had second thoughts about it

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 August 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

I mean you just did

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Thursday, 6 August 2020 10:44 (three years ago) link

if only this were the thread for that :)

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 6 August 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

^ had second thoughts about, added a smiley

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 6 August 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

feel like the old farts of ILM might be comfier on that music producer lad's site they keep ripping on

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 August 2020 11:11 (three years ago) link

threads like this are an excellent resource for derision

imago, Thursday, 6 August 2020 11:33 (three years ago) link

It’s goo

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Thursday, 6 August 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link

there is WW1 memorial I often pass which has For The Glory Of Goo inscribed on it, people died for goo!

calzino, Thursday, 6 August 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

I mean
It wasn't derision so much as it was appreciation coming from a place of negativity

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 August 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link

There is another meaning there and it's not supposed to be necessarily obvious so that's all good.

Basil Ker-ching (Noel Emits), Thursday, 6 August 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

Jolly goo

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

I think some of us are talking at cross purposes a bit, I was amused by yr post fgti.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Thursday, 6 August 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

kk good
it wasn't coming from a place of bottom-shaming, neither, I'm not Perez, I firmly believe that the more dilated the anus, the closer to god

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 August 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

you better believe i just googled the phrase "anal chakra"

https://kosmicrockstar.com/2017/06/06/the-power-of-anal-penetration/

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 August 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link

it's less about survivor's guilt and more about survivor's confusion. understanding there's no real reason why i've survived, so far, and he didn't. if he was alive, you know, he might actually have figured a lot of this shit out for himself, possibly do a better job of it than my own ham-fisted stumblings about. he's not, though.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 August 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

fair, although ofc everyone's shit is somewhat distinct, as the old cliche goes

imago, Thursday, 6 August 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

Wow I was confused for a moment but yeah
tbh I've been having major spirals the past two months and I wanna tell people "if only you knew the unbearable pain of persistent suicidality, it is more intense than anything else" and I guess I read your post as trivializing, even if it wasn't <3

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

it is a difficult topic to talk about, the actual experience of suicidality. not just for internal reasons, but knowing that for some people, hearing someone talking about it can not just hurt them but put them in danger. so i try to circumlocute the topic, and in this case what i was saying was too raw, circumlocution didn't make it any easier.

everyone reading this, particularly everyone participating in this particular little convo, i care about you and i hope you can stay safe.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

there is WW1 memorial I often pass which has For The Glory Of Goo inscribed on it, people died for goo!

was it Minchenhampton or somewhere in the Cotswolds? As a kid there was a cafe there that had this delicious treat called goo -- chocolate, caramel, cookie base -- it was, er, to die for

sarahell, Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

You can't produce wine without crushing a few grapes.

Basil Ker-ching (Noel Emits), Thursday, 6 August 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

xp

it's at Thornhill rectory in W Yorkshire, it looks like Goo but my eyesight is bad and I do admit to a tendency to be flippant about war memorials. Goo sounds nice!

calzino, Thursday, 6 August 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

Ooh, I could vote in an ILM poll

Udo Starmer (Tom D.), Thursday, 6 August 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

in the spirit of #onethread, is there a thread where we can find out who the fuck these new user and display names are?

also reading this whole thing and then going back through the LGBT thread has made me think about Bimble, and how i bet Bimble would have been a real delight to have in these conversations. seriously!

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, 7 August 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

Mountain View, not San Jose ... tourist

sarahell, Saturday, 8 August 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Indeed, I was visiting.

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 8 August 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

it's not like the South Bay was some place to be proud of being from tbh

sarahell, Saturday, 8 August 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

it seemed prideworthy! but mushrooms tell tales

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 8 August 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

mushroom compost has a really strong smell ... much stronger than garlic fwiw

sarahell, Saturday, 8 August 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

xps to table:

ILX2 NEW USERNAME TRANSLATOR COMPENDIUM

sleeve, Saturday, 8 August 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

thx sleeve

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 August 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

also reading this whole thing and then going back through the LGBT thread has made me think about Bimble, and how i bet Bimble would have been a real delight to have in these conversations. seriously!

It was the anniversary of Bimble's death just the other day. It's been 11 years!

オニモ (onimo), Monday, 10 August 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

Jeez! I remember that day very distinctly. It was awful. RIP Bimble.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

getting me all excited to talk about lee morgan but no, you're discussing the worst fuckin band ever, again, why do you do this

budo jeru, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

Absolutely nothing more irritating than someone coming in late and deciding to bump a drama-filled thread everyone else had let fall down sna.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

International time zones exist tbf

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 10:18 (three years ago) link

get rid

mark s, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 10:47 (three years ago) link

xp doesn’t mean we need a useless take delivered late

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

right on schedule, ilxors yearning for a world where politicians only pander to white leftists under 40

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link

Pander to meeeeeee!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link

oh look more fucking DARVO

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link

Eat Scamps Do Knife Crimes

The Scampos of Young Werther (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link

Post not about yourself challenge

caută singur (gyac), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link

i'm only interested in politically engaging with people who are capable of listening to people whose beliefs differ from their own with kindness and respect. that quality isn't exclusive to white leftists under 40 but you certainly don't seem to be evincing it right now.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link


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