Spencer: cocky charmer or charmless cockfarmer?

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I have loved him from the moment I saw him. My only doubts have come when he slagged off 'The Others' but I shouldn't have expected otherwise.

He seems to be a classic Englishman. He's the only one who's not lost touch with reality. A bullshit detector but funny as fuck with it. I wonder if I would like him in real life. Probably not - he'd get all the girls I wanted.

― N., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah he is a classic Englishman in that he is terminally lazy and never washes. Har har. But really, Nick, do you still think he's charming? I can see that he can be when he wants to and he has that whole don't care thing down but seeing him being so lazy and teenaged and self centred diminishes any charm he may have had. In fact he may not have had any, it might just be the fact that he is the most fanciable of the lot of them so I (and lots of other women) convinced myself that he did.

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think he's self-centred. In what sense self-centred? He's certainly not self-obsessed in the way that teenagers are. In fact if a teenager was remotely as confortable with themselves as he is it would be freakish.

― N., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He's the only one who's not lost touch with reality

It is his smug assumption that he "gets it" when others do not that irritates me. Lynne's infamous attack on him was completely OTM.

― mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

he does seem to have descenced into more childish mannerisms. if you're cooped up all day, with little to do, and try to relax/laze around, i think it's inevitable that you become more childish -- i'm surprised that more of the contestants haven't gone this way. think i would -- i know i do, when there's little work to do in the office. that's not an excuse -- i'd expect to be chucked out for doing it.

― Alan T, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lynne's infamous attack on him was completely OTM.

As was his just getting up and just leaving her to rant and foam at the mouth on the couch. HA HA!

― Alan T, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Exactly - that's a classic example. She was 'in the right' but he totally won the encounter by making her look like a mad woman in his laconic passive-aggressive way. In real life, I might find this despicable, but on TV I'm cheering.

― N., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

that just PROVED she was right: he is passive aggressive

― mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I dunno. Mark S is right though. It's the way he is constantly flouting the rules in a teenagery way that annoys me, I mean he seems to do it for the sake of doing it as much as anything. It's not that I really hate him but I think Alex is far better to watch and I definitely don't think he is in any way charming.

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He = Spencer in this case. Alex has a certain charm I suppose (i.e. I know he would come round and clean up which is very appealing indeed).

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes but he thinks the piss on the bottoms of yr shoes is DISGUSTING

― mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well he is welcome to clean them if he likes. With his tongue. Oh yes my other job is as a dominatrix.

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I so fancy that woman off the Carling advert.

― N., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

She is not a dominatrix, she is just clumsy.

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I still fancy her.

― N., Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You could go round knocking things over & spilling things together. Ahhh.

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think I am Alex's doppelganger as I find that advert utterly nauseating. Ew tongues and beer and toilets. EWW! I KNOW it's a joke, but really.

― Archel, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

He's a twat. He thinks he can charm his way around the rules, and maybe he can, but he's completely punchable with it.

― Graham, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spencer hatred is so predictable.

I think he's the best of the lot in the house because exactly as Nick says he has some sense of reality and doesn't talk this shit about playing a game or go to the diary room and have a big ego wank in front of the whole country

― Ronan, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not have a big, hem, 'ego wank' in front of the whole country! What's all that behaviour when BB tells him off for breaking the rules then if not totally showing off! 'Oh yeah I'm way too cool for your stupid rules man. I'm a rebel me'. Bollocks are you. And what exactly is a 'sense of reality'?

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

A sense of reality=not talking about people "playing a game".

Also bigger ego wanking =voluntarily going to big bro to say "i've had a bad day today" translation:loooooove me! loooooooooove me everyone!

― Ronan, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

also he looks like a beetroot

― mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That is just nonsense. Spencer's rebel punter act is pathetic. He must go.

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not as pathetic as people who think I care about what kind of day they had, how "hard it is in there" or who's "playing a game". I don't want any of them to get the money really but some of them are so hatable I love the thought of them realising noone will give a shit about them after a month.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

[Insert obligatory Peter Noone joke]

― Emma, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yes, it does look like this year being the instantly forgettable bb winners. certainly no future smtv presenters among them. i can't see them doing novelty singles either. there's not even the comedy value of the paul/helen relationship, so no Alastair McGowan impression either.

maybe Alex will endorse some hygiene products? get sandy to endorse a new type of piss-retaining bin bag?

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spencer's blow job jokes last night were AWFUL.

I like Alex more and more and will be sorry to see him go.

― Andrew L, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well vote for spencer then: ALEX MUST STAY

― mark s, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I agree with Andrew L: that blowjob routine was beyond creepy. And I hae always hearted Alex, although less so now he's on the rich side. I also like the way Alex saves up specific little incidents to justify nominations, like a squirrel hoarding nuts.

― Ellie, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

SPENCER MUST GO!!

― alext, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I voted for Spencer three times today. He must go.

And remember - we only get to see in the diary room what Big Brother wants us to see. The diary rooms posion as a confessional is actual very useful for people in that situation and only a psycho loony would not use it to offload issues.

― Pete, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i will be very happy if the ILE massive can buck the odds and cause an upset this friday. though it will mean my first crapped out prediction. i still like spencer, but alex is easily more amusing to watch.

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Bah Spencer vs Alex =Vague Laddism vs Totally Idiocy all over again.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

total.

― Ronan, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I still quite like Spencer - but I like Alex more. He's more entertaining to watch and he's honest and funny in his mentalism. We've got the Spencer no. on redial in our house.

― Tom, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Lynne OTM = most offTM thing mark s ever did say.

― david h(owie), Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Emma: Spencer, sulky, sullen, sleep, teenager + conjunctions = post on Spencer.

It is obv. that Adele (if you watch her) agrees to everything that everyone says when they are having a "conversation" or "discussion" - she will never disagree - NEVER - ergo she is a sheep (ha) and thus likes Elvis (ref. to stop reprimand by mark s along lines of "sheep is media propagander stop usering it, fink fur yrself") so MUST GO! She's not two-faced - she's just got no OPINIONS!

― david h(owie), Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Summary: Jade must go! Adele must go! Alex must go! PJ must go! Spencer must go! Sophie must go! Jonny must go!

It's interesting to note the difft. selection criteria that the ILx massif choose to decide who must go.

There are the "I like X therefore he must stay, even though he's maybe not as interesting as the others types" and the "She makes fur grt telly, I don't much like her but she must stay" - I suppose it depends upon which way you see BB3. As entertainment or as the game, if you take an extrinsic (BB exists fer me) or intrinsic (BB exists fer gaming) stance. Obv. everyone looks at it as a synthesis of these two - but the emphasis is difft in difft camps.

I'm more likely to want Jade to go out 'cos I don't want her to get the money - but she's more entertaining that Spencer, but I'd like him to win - if y'see?

― david h(owie), Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ADELE MUST STAY.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like X coz and I don't like X but it's great telly...are both indicative of entrertainment to me...

― jel --, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I just had a flash of david h as mark s' Mini-Me

― David, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

You must go!

― david h(owie), Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeh, they're both entertaining - but it just struck me that not everyone wants the person they like (or rather don't hate) to stay.

― david h(owie), Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Of course, I bleed, y'know.

― david h(owie), Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Best epidode of BB ever!

― jel --, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh...and I am really feeling sorry for Tim, stuck in a room full of binge drinkers is not fun.

― jel --, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I WOULD CUDDLE YOU BETTER JADE.

How much did diary room producer guy want to break through that wall and give her a great bug hugglez.

Tim looked very, very scared.

I'm going to start yelling "Do something for ME-EE" when I want to break up an argument.

― Graham, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Heinstein! hahaha! Inspector Morse and Sherlock Holmes: father and son! hehehehe!

― jel --, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

no, RELATED = no necessarily by blood = jade is my heinstein.

― Graham, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Spencer must go. Psychopathic tendencies. Alex is truly appalling but I am warming to him scarily. Ditto Jade.

But ADELE MUST GO! most of all. Everything about her makes my skin creep.

― Mark C, Wednesday, 19 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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― Dan Perry, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

MINGer THE MERCILESS you see.

― Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If anyone else insults MY jade, MILLIONS WILL DIE.

*sulk*

― Graham, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

If you ever go to the beach with her you'll both die.

― Ronan, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

is she 12 foot tall in that pic? (ps i know the answer as i can read her phylum tattoo)

― mark s, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think that that Ming looks more like Hannah from S-Club, who is cute.

― jel --, Thursday, 20 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This has been done, right?

"She baffled the other rich housemates by talking about an old- fashioned gadget called a "wirelophone". Eventually they worked out she had got confused between a gramophone and a wireless."

"Jade says she thinks she's prettier than Kate.

She has been telling Alex her feelings after they moved into the rich side of the house.

"I don't think I'm the most gorgeous girl on the planet but I look at Kate and I don't think she's pretty at all," Jade told Alex.

"I think I'm prettier than Kate. Kate has got a weird nose and weird teeth. I don't think she's nothing at all.""

― david h(owie), Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I <3 JADE

― mark s, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What?

― david h(owie), Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark, stop teabagging Jade!

― Dan Perry, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the only problem that I have with Jade is the fact that she is quite childish for someone of her age. But I think the most interesting relationship/dynamic in the house (and I don't know if you people have been talking about it) is the Spencer-Jade axis. (I heart Jade, right?)

― david h(owie), Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Do not buy 'Jade is subversive'.

― david h(owie), Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

HAHAHAHAAAAHAAHHHAHHAAAAAAAAA

HEHEHEHEHEEEHEHEHHEHHEE

Yay! Yay! Yay!

Spencer, you are a charmless cockfarmer.

― Graham, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ILE has influenced the nation! Good bye Spencer! hahhahah! Poor Kate.

― jel --, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Best Big Brother Ever!

― david h(owie), Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

ALEX WILL STAY!

― Dan Perry, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex has probably won the whole thing now.

― jel --, Friday, 21 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

eleven months pass...

WRONG WRONG WRONG HA HA.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Lynne's infamous attack on him was completely OTM.

What...? Where...?

― Sommermute (Wintermute), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

She was pissed and stood up and told him exactly what she thought of him. That he was arrogant and lacked manners, essentially.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

IRL, I suppose.

― Sommermute (Wintermute), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:46 (twenty-three years ago)

No, on TV.

― N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Respect.

― Sommermute (Wintermute), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Can I link to a Spencer story, or would that be mean?

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Go forth.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

My ex-girlfriend's name is Alex.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 00:24 (twenty-three years ago)

N, how the hell can you remember this?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:50 (twenty-three years ago)

What?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:54 (twenty-three years ago)

That Lynne shouted at Spencer! Who was Lynne?

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:01 (twenty-three years ago)

She was the older, bitter blonde Scottish woman who got booted out first.

Last night I thought myself to sleep by trying to remember all the past contestants from BB1, 2 and 3. I could only get about 8 from each of the first two.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Sada, Andrew, Caroline, Nick, Claire, Tom, Mel, Anna, Craig, Darren, Penny, Stuart, Josh, Narinder, Amma, Bubble, Paul, Helen, Dean, Elizabeth, Brian.

I don't believe I just did that.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:10 (twenty-three years ago)

What about Sandy?!?!? See, I remember him just from all the stupid BB threads on ILE. I am pathetic.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)

You forgot Nichola. I forgot Andrew.

Nicole - Matt was excluding BB3 there.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't remember half of those people. Andrew?

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:19 (twenty-three years ago)

He was this slimy guy who had a 'thing' with Mel for a bit (massages and the like). Once he kissed her and she she prodded him and said 'YOU shouldn't be doing that!' as she stared into his eyes. Then he got evicted and Tom tried it on with her instead.

He was a bit like Paul Clarke.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Bubble?????

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh the innocent days of BB1. Where did they go?

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)

His real name was also Paul.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)

BB1 was still the best.

< /BB rockist>

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I think BB2 was the best.

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

YAAOC. The current one is the best by miles!

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

What about Sandy?!?!? See, I remember him just from all the stupid BB threads on ILE. I am pathetic.

I wouldn't say you're pathetic...but I will say that I had completely forgotten about him, so yay me. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

How can you forget someone who PISSES IN A BIN FOR SPITE?

― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:10 (twenty-three years ago)

PARTICULARLY since that led to the whole Ronan = Pissboy thing!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Nope, didn't ring a bell until you brought it up again. The only one I can remember from last year by name is Jade.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Of all the ones to remember, why'd it have to be the aggressively think one?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:40 (twenty-three years ago)

That is a beautiful typo.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

You have another think coming.

― Nicole (Nicole), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)

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― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

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