a family affair?

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i just watched godfather 2 with dr vick, who was seeing it for the FIRST TIME!! We larfed non-stop...

OK what was really obvious watching it time is that the hook is the idea of the perfect loving family (as fashioned by Vito) and that the target is the family that got totally fucked up (as created by Michael), but that the movie says that the first CAUSED the second. The moment of disaster — the road taken to grisly tragedy — is nothing Michael does, but rather when Vito agrees to help the widow who is his wife's friend to keep from being thrown out of her flat, and doesn't use harsh or vicious threatening tactics at all, which seems noble, except when the landlord — a very komikal figure — realises and runs in and grovels, Vito just lets the scene play out, becaue it's funny, instead of putting things right and not having fun at this frightened greedy idiot's expense.

mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

(also the actor who plays frank pentangeli has the greatest voice in cinema history)

mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I have not seen any of the Godfather movies, except the first one upto the bit where he shoots the Chief of Police and that other guy in the restaurant.

david h(owie), Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

pentangeli also played in zee name of da rose, right? i heart him big time.

godfather (and scarface) is the americandream nightmare gone totally wrong. one of my FAVOURITE ever films. and coppola is just WEIRD; those stories in "easy riders, raging bulls" are classick!

nathalie, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

another thing is, the men all refuse to allow the women any role in decision-making whatever, and yet justify every single act in terms of the needs/requirements of their womenfolk (and their children) => it;s as if they're completely afraid ever to say "This is what *I* want" => G2 is an essay in the damage inflicted by (a warped kind of) selflessness!!

mark s, Saturday, 22 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

this was a wash-out

mark s, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Let's talk about ATTALI then! I LOVE some of his thoughts in Noise. The others don't make sense to me. Well, they do, but I ignore the ones I don't agree with. hah!

nathalie, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Godfather movies are all about family, quite obviously, though often clever distracted by it being about The Family. The subtext is all about doing the right thing for your family, your kids, your women - which by your arrogance and non-involvement turns out not to be the right thing at all.

Goodfellas is a very good comparison, where the choice is finally made (and not outside of the family unit) to stick with the family instead of The Family.

Pete, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

fourteen years pass...

Setting a very bad example for my 16 y o sis by drinking whisky and leaving my cigarettes out by the door

calstars, Friday, 12 August 2016 22:28 (nine years ago)

At least I didn't offer either to her

calstars, Friday, 12 August 2016 22:34 (nine years ago)


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