Grew up knowing the name of Plath more than her work, and sometimes I would stumble across her influence in the oddest of ways (for instance, the name of an obscure Tears for Fears B-side, "Johnny Panic and the Bible of Dreams," as taken from the short story of the same name). Taught a bit of the poetry at one point in college, read a bit of some biographies about her and Ted Hughes, got a strong sense of her being very much the injured party through and through there (I gather there's been some revisionism in the wake of Hughes's death and his collection of poems about her).
The Bell Jar was only a cover to me in high school -- I seem to remember it being crumpled up on the paperback copy someone was reading, a white cover I think. Having taken the plunge, I am finding it very worthy, and in many ways it feels less distant that the near fifty years' difference between setting and the present day. The tone, the issues, the portrayal of urban settings and emotional stumblings...something about it makes me think of now and not then, at least so far (perhaps later in the novel the differences in time will become clearer). Right now what resonates with me most is the sense of feminine intelligence being crushed down by a skewed societal sense of expectations, crushed or being channeled into something else 'safe.'
I am still digesting it slowly in ways, but I appreciate both Plath's constant flashes of poetic comparisons (the early vision of a drink being 'dead water' to the narrator is sticking with me) and the almost absurd humor at many points, not slapstick and not completely black humor, but at points hints of both. Narrator speaking of Buddy undressed and thinking only of 'turkey neck and turkey gizzards' -- freaking brilliant.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Chris Barrus, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Dud: Sylvia Plath reading her poetry. Never ever listen to her recordings. She's got this obnoxious-as-fuck haughtiness which is almost totally at odds to the brutally mordant tone of the poems.
― Michael Daddino, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Josh, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― anthony, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Julianne Moore...interesting comparison. Let me dwell on it and the novel a bit more. I have now completed it -- it's a quick read, but certainly one that provides much food for thought. The edition I read was the 1996 one with a brief introduction and biography that shed some interesting light on how she herself saw the book, its roman-a-clef nature and how she saw it as a bit of a 'pot-boiler,' to use her own terminology. I am intrigued by the sudden, choppy nature of its progression -- how certain scenes seem to just start then end (the conclusion of the book being the final touch in that regard). Hmm...more thoughts tomorrow, I think!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I love The Bell Jar. No one ever described the experience of a breakdown - the weird blankness of feeling, the growing paranoia, the almost casual attitude toward suicide - better than Plath. I reread it last year and thought it was even better the second time around. The New York chapters are probably my favorite, especially the early bit where she orders the vodka.
I must have overdosed on her poetry back when I did my Plath report in high school, though, since I can't get into it at all anymore. It's technically brilliant - shows Hughes up for the tame, workmanlike poet he was - but it just doesn't grab me anymore. Except for "Daddy," which remains as queasy and disturbing as ever. Part of the appeal of Plath is she doesn't seem to know when she's going OTT, with the Nazi symbolism and all. Maybe that's a flaw but it makes it seem all the more compelling.
― Justyn Dillingham, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― nathalie, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
So I'm asking myself why I feel so full of loathing as I re-read the bell jar and the poetry, and it occurs to me that all I see in it is a spineless, narcissistic obsession with human weakness.
it also occurs to me that maybe I am not separating the author from the narrator the way I would for a (male) author like Nabokov, but then again, isn't the predicate of all Plath's work a sort of adolescent melodramatic grandstanding that deliberately confuses the two?
these are not rhetorical questions. I've never been able to fully articulate why I loathe her work so much, and I would love to be persuaded differently by someone here, but with my knee now in full jerking mode is there anything in her work other than histrionic self pity plus clumsy gothy imagery and metaphors (the black telephone's off at the root / the voices just can't worm through) oooh look she's going crazy. And don't even start me on the whole Nazi thing.
― Senor Pulpo, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
If Christina Ricci hadnt gotten a boob job, she would have been on the way, she could have been her as a girl. It has to be someone less pop. *thinks*
― jeskam, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pete, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Andrew L, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I (less than fairly) dismiss The Bell Jar and Catcher in the Rye because I associate both books with some of their...overly earnest fans. It's been more than a decade since I read The Bell Jar; I probably ought to pick up that 1996 edition someone mentioned.
― j.lu, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― david h, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I'm curious: Did 'The Bell Jar" ever become a play? I may be remembering it wrong, but I think it was!
― Nichole Graham, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― J Blount, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pete, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― J Blount, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:15 (twenty-three years ago)
Altough I've read it isn't very good.
― Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-three years ago)