World Cup Final Throwdown

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Brasil vs Germany (see ned, we can and we will be on three finals in a row)

― Chupa-Cabras, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

All very good, good sir. But will you WIN it? ;-)

Ronaldo/Rivaldo v. Oliver Kahn. HM.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

chupa - why does rivaldo always look as if he's swallowed the semen of a decomposing hampster?

― Queen of the Porches Leaving Their Men Club G, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Once i discover whats a hampster i can say something

― Chupa-Cabras, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Rivaldo = skeleton

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, Brazil didn't look so composed on the ball as against England but it was a well deserved win over Turkey.

So, Brazil v Germany. Two of the most powerful footballing nations. Surprisingly they have never played in a World Cup Final.

Still have to fancy the Brazilians. I can't believe that Germany who had to play in the wildcard competition last year to qualify, are in the final. Germany have had the easiest path to the final that I can ever remember. I don't think they played one team inside the FIFA top ten to get there.

Kind of makes England's 5-1 thrashing of them look almost poignant.

― C J, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Surprisingly they have never played in a World Cup Final.

They've never played each other in the World Cup AT ALL. That's the thing.

― N., Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Will be a neutral for this. Don't like Germany (though I admire the way they came back from the defeat in Munich, just shows that skill isn't everything and mental atitude counts).

Brazil are more skillful but I can't supposrt a team who put england out. Very hard to call (unlike last time, where it was France's first time in a final so it was easy to say Brazil would win).

If anybody can beat Brazil it's Gemany with their atitude.

― Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I expect my allegiances will reveal themselves as the match progresses; I expected to be neutral today but was screaming for the Turks as it went on. Why wasn't Ilhan Mansiz(e) on from the start? He's great.

For things to be all symmetrical and whatnot, it has to be Germany though (the 20-16-12 sequence, German victory = 4 wins from 7 finals, same as Brazil [I am aware than the 1950 defeat vs Uruguay wasn't technically a 'final']). And we can all pretend we'd have beaten them 5-1 in the final.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that the Leicester City player? Must be the first time a Leicester City player has graced a World Cup semi-final since Frank Worthington... bought a proto-Playstation in 1974.

― PJ Miller, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ho-ho. No, the Leicester player is Muzzy Izzet - but he *did* come on in the second half.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hm, for all the upsets and giant killing that's gone on in this here World Cup it's ended up with a it's-trad-dad final with both Brazil and Germany on their 7th WC final appearance (not fair!).
Brazil Vs Germany: the unstoppable Vs the immovable. It should be interesting, but Brazil deserve to win of course.
Go Brazil!

― DavidM, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But if Germany win it, will they keep it for evah? Or have FIFA given up that little bauble? I hope not. They say that they won't do it, as they removed the rule about three time champions keeping the trophy.

But after this year's winners have had their names inscribed, there's is no room left for any more, and some speculate that Blatterman might wish to stamp his mark on FIFA by commissioning a new version. SHOCK!

I like the World Cup and I'd go as far as to say it's the perfect trophy.

The Jules Rimet always looked a bit, well, weedy. Whereas this is substanstial and at 5 kilos, needs to be lifted above the head to be held with any degree of comfort, and that image replicates the players holding the globe too. Enduring image, isn't it? Well done Silvio Gazazniga.

― Nathan Barley, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I had thought: rivaldo=crazy-legs crane

― RJG, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Brazil wont win the cup but they do win the ugly team award.

― Mr Noodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I've decided I want Germany to win, so that I won't have to watch any more of that ridiculous bum-waggling in the street.

― PJ Miller, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

the keeping the trophy rule was stopped apparently, plus the old trophy had no room left for the names of the winners and so it was handy to give to the Brazilians, the new trophy has room for all the winners up[ to 2048 so don't expect it to be kept by a team just yet, or until Macdonalds buy up the rights.

One question, where did France keep it while they had it, was it on public display? or kept in the vaults of the French FA?

― chris, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yay!

It goes on tour - the original stays with FIFA and the winners get a slightly smaller replica that's gold plated rather than gold.

― Nathan Barley, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, the Germans gave it a good go. I bet Schneider's (sp?) price has gone rocketing up.

Thousands of Brazilians took over the centre of Brussels yesterday afternoon and evening. I didn't realise before how big the Community here was.

― Jeff W, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw thee game with a taciturn Frenchman. We were halfway through the croissants and OJ we'd snagged at halftime when Ronaldo scored that first goal. I found myself instantly pulling for Germany! Partly to make it interesting and partly because Kahn's jaunty sideburns seemed to demand vindication. But for some reason they didn't have it. Sorry, no detailed analysis here. Stephane's entire contribution was "I think they're gonna put one in". American commentating uninsightful and repetitive; they kept referring to things like "nutmeg" and "flick-on" that they NEVER EXPLAINED. THe Italian color commentator guy was great grumbling fun at half-time though - he looked like he wanted to snap the other guys in two for disagreeing with him that "Brazil is the only team that's playing right now." I went back to sleep and didn't wake up until 1pm.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually Ty Keogh (whom I hate and remember making fun as a kid for saying "the tangible benefits of the players are negligible at best") consistently misapplyed "nutmeg," which should involve the ball going between a player's legs. (The players feet sort of need to be on the ground, too.) Actually that second goal had a sprinkling of nutmeg on the center, didn't it.

― nabisco%%, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It went right through Ronaldinho's legs, or was it Rivaldo's? That wuz on purpose?

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

if you're talking about the goal. yes, that was a dummy

― gareth, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nutmeg? Dummy? Speak ENGLISH dammit!

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

To nutmeg is to deliberately put the ball between an opponents feet. To dummy is to pretend that you are going to play the ball but not do so, to trick or misdirect the opposition. A flick [on] is a deliberate glancing contact designed to slightly deflect the ball in the desired direction.

― Martin Skidmore, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you, Martin.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

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