Can YOU survive???

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A little game to play, for anyone who's bored or curious.


http://www.philosophers.co.uk/games/identity.htm


Let us know if you survived or not! (I did, yippee!!)

C J, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i suvived - me and 749 people chose the same path - yay now im gonna heal the world make it a better place, for you and for me and the entire human race

im a surviver, im gonna make it, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

goddamn it, i wanted death but no - 1690 out of 10697 people chose the same path through the scenarios as you

Queen G of the &th day apocalyptic sandwiches, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Haha Queenie I AM DEAD and somewhat unique.

"294 out of 10697 people chose the same path through the scenarios as you. To date, 5385 people have followed a path through these scenarios which is consistent with at least one of the three theories of personal identity specified above, compared to 5312 people who have not."

Alex in SF, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not so fast. You are far from unique:

284 out of 10698 people chose the same path through the scenarios as you. To date, 5385 people have followed a path through these scenarios which is consistent with at least one of the three theories of personal identity specified above, compared to 5313 people who have not.

I r dead, but i r happy with my new electrical limbs! Me left leg's being replaced by an egg-whisk next week. Omelette ahoy! :)

dr daif, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

1845 out of 10698 people chose the same path through the scenarios as you!

I am alive! I believe in soul, apparently!

jel --, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm so not unique, but i stayed alive supposedly: "1845 out of 10698 people chose the same path through the scenarios as you. To date, 5385 people have followed a path through these scenarios which is consistent with at least one of the three theories of personal identity specified above, compared to 5313 people who have not."

the last bit was stupid tho, either way you die if you ask me.

Maria, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The first question annoyed me a bit because no one is going to force me to go to Mars!

jel --, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

which planet would you rather go to?

michael, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I'd rather stay on Earth. But if I've gotta go somewhere, I'd go the whole hog and go to the Crab Nebula.

jel --, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually I backed up and checked bits of the tree and there's something deeply deeply wrong with its logic.

(Not to mention something clearly wrong with the logic of the soul- choice at the end: if I can be frozen and revived with no soul then like what is a soul anyway?)

nabisco%%, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

That was weird.

153 out of 10703 people chose the same path through the scenarios as you. To date, 5388 people have followed a path through these scenarios which is consistent with at least one of the three theories of personal identity specified above, compared to 5315 people who have not.

toraneko, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I died. Or at least I misplaced my soul. But I disagree. My soul could easily have gone through the instant transporter thing. Or just travelled along some astral pathway and caught me up on Mars.

isadora, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Did anybody do the card logic puzzle - the game at the bottom of the Games page? I did fairly well, but still have no clue what the pattern was supposed to be, and the bastards don't tell you. Could somebody tell me?

Simon, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...
Ahhh boredom and the random button. A dangerous combination.
I died in round three.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

ooh, julian baggini. he rocks.

i survived ... "7307 out of 41972 people chose the same path through the scenarios as you".

bit fucking pointless, mind :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

basically, stuff like that reminds me why i never, ever want to take my passing interest in philosophy any further ;)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Are YOU bad enough to rescue the president?

Mickey (modestmickey), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)

I died. Uh, every time.

But I am now a beautiful baby called Britney!

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 03:55 (twenty years ago)

me and 7311 others survived. is this really what philosophy is all about? seems a bit more like an introductory psych unit

gem (trisk), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:02 (twenty years ago)

grimly, otm. the questions were interesting, the response at the end, boring (I wanted it to have that Choose-your-own-adventure-book tone). wtf, souls are particles too, don't call me dead. (haha, I'm reading the Baggini article anyway, of course...)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

I picked answers I knew would mean survival in the coldest sense of the word, and stayed alive right thru. But they werent things I wouldve picked in reality, which is interesting.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

but can you really predict how you would respond if you were actually asked the teleporter question? it is so far beyond my world that i don't think i could answer it with complete honesty till i was placed in the position.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

I would like to meet some teletransported people and look into their eyes and see that, yes, they were truly void of soul. Then I would think more about the crappy spaceship.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

bah i took the spaceship. i fear the soulless. zombies look weird.

gem (trisk), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

haha, it would be a better quiz if it featured zombies. Or even just peppered it with the word zombie here and there.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)

i took the spaceship cos it said it wouldnt be the ACTUAL you at the other end if you teleported, which made me think "hmm well that aint surviving".

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

But they never say the word "actual"! They say the person will be "indistinguishable" from you in thinking and looks - and he says there are no tricks! I just read the article and while it's intelligent, it bothers me too, esp the brain/body/soul distinctions, grrr.

ohmygod, I can't even start on this - I love it and I hate it, but mostly it sends me into some weird low-grade depressive state when I do too much of it.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

i'm a survivor, according to one theory of personal identity.

my answers were consistent with the theory known as psychological reductionism. On this view, all that is required for the continued existence of the self is psychological continuity.

i like zombies, i didn't like this much as being philosophy or anything.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 24 November 2005 04:51 (twenty years ago)

what a load of shit

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

Yup. The whole thing depends on a whole bunch of stupid presuppositions. I died in round 1 because I chose what I thought was the most interesting/novel route. My motivation was not keeping myself or my 'soul' alive.

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

But the instructions tell you that your primary motivation should always be to keep yourself alive, not to do what sounds interesting. That's the point of the game. You can't play to your own rules, then lose, and then say "bah, that game was rubbish!".

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Lone Ranger.

jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 24 November 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Why not?

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

I played to survive, mistakenly thinking that choosing the most appropriately 'worded' route was the way to go. ie not choosing the options of '50%' success, little did i know that all the routes were okay.

in other words I thought it was a 'fun' game and not a philosophy lecture, a bad one at that.

Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:29 (twenty years ago)


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