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Palin disses teleprompters, repeatedly checks notecards.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 7 February 2010 07:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I just have to believe that most people are not falling for this

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/02/07/us/07teaparty03/07teaparty03-popup.jpg

Milton Parker, Sunday, 7 February 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I was weirded out by the BBC coverage of this: bulletins made it seem like some HUGE event with an unquestioned leader and we had to wait for proper news items for context like 'in front of 1000'. They ran a few seconds of word salad. I'm eager to see 'writes crib notes on her hand' and how everything she says can be boiled down to Kinder, Kirche, Kultur. I'm sorry, but this woman and her supporters are a 21st-century Bund.

Anyone who chances on Sullivan's blog today will note he is having a total hernia over this speech! We should be afraid because she thinks she's Queen Esther!

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 11:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Note the Christianist earrings, people:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/139125/thumbs/s-PALIN-large.jpg

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"i believe i can fly..."

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 7 February 2010 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

she is going to make an awesome ross perot in 2012

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 7 February 2010 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link

OTM Tracer.

I Am Lord Al's Bitch aka the Village Idiot (Dandy Don Weiner), Sunday, 7 February 2010 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link

oh so you're MY bitch now, eh??

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 February 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2010-02-07-palinhandclose.jpg

harbl, Sunday, 7 February 2010 16:12 (fourteen years ago) link

rrrreally hope there's a lefty indie prez run in the midst of the 2012 depression so we have a 35-35-15-15 pop vote. I will laugh and laugh...

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 February 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

(I know, it won't happen -- 95% of libs will never abandon the Dems unto death)

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 February 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ craigslist spammers branch out into new venues

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

she is unbelievable

Mr. Que, Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ "loft apartment santa"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 you all but making fun of her for writing on her hand isn't any better than t-baggers calling obama the teleprompter president - take it to crooks & liars

rasta batman gigolo (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the idea is that Obama doesn't appear at events that decry Palin as the teleprompter rabble-rouser whatever. It's a gotcha, and maybe its pleasures are thin, but it's about the hypocrisy of the "just a regular folkperson speakin' from the heart" posture, not the act of writing down notes.

Although I really don't get the idea of writing notes on your hand instead of, yknow, on note cards.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 7 February 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 you all but making fun of her for writing on her hand isn't any better than t-baggers calling obama the teleprompter president - take it to crooks & liars

lol--you can't see the difference between using the teleprompter to give a speech and writing on a hand like you're in 9th grade civics class

Mr. Que, Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah the teleprompter is for prepared remarks. obama does q&a's all the time without peeking at his hand.

(and in palin's case, it's like, does she really need prompting to think of energy and taxes? really?)

also i have never, ever understood the teleprompter slam, since every politician since moses has used prepared remarks. i guess it's just a way to try to blunt one of his obvious strengths -- "sure, he can give a good speech, but it's all written down" -- but it's always been nonsensical.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

whatever i like to spend my time worrying about how people are paying for the healthcare they can't afford and if we're torturing suspected criminals, not the logistics of speech-giving

but i'm a popist

xp

jew bee or nazi bee (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i like that she has literally drawn a line through 'budget'

Norman Mail (schlump), Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

when i once told a palinite "you can't deny dude gives a good speech" the retort was "you don't think he has speechwriters?"

that was shortly followed by "you know bill ayers wrote dreams from my father, right?"

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

it's just one more indication that she can't think for herself. if you have to write "energy" and "tax" on your hand to remind you how to speak correctly, and what things are important. . . what are the chances you can put together solutions and fix problems? not very likely

Mr. Que, Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

it's not like she wrote down a complicated answer. she wrote down the word ENERGY. do you see?

Mr. Que, Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

right i mean

i think it was sullivan who pointed out that she was attempting to make a list of what her priorities as president would be

and she had to write them on her hand

she had to write her priorities as president on her hand

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

shoulda gone for this
http://www.desicouples.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/henna-kamasutra.jpg

velko, Sunday, 7 February 2010 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i'm just not interested in that sub-dkos/crooksnliars gossip shit, i've got enough issues with sarah palin that i don't need to resort to calling her out for using notes - however elementary - for her speech

jew bee or nazi bee (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Now for comparison, here are rough drafts of written remarks by some elitist law professor type:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/4290936205_6fc346d0d3.jpg

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Marginalia is the mark of socialism

mayor jingleberries, Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

palin always delivers - amazing

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

http://defectiveyeti.com/images/fp/palinhand.jpg

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

every time she opens her mouth she sounds like an idiot. not sure why we need to get on her for hand notes, either. i'd rather be hearing about some particularly stupid/scary shit she said, since i didn't watch or read a transcript.

Heisenberg (rockapads), Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

“We’re at war and these are acts of war that these terrorists are committing and we need to treat them differently,” she said. “I don’t think terrorists are worthy of rights that people like my son fight and are willing to die for.”

“Now that my focus has been enlarged, I sure as heck better be more astute on these current events, national issues,” she said during the recorded interview.

That was just one of several digs at President Obama. “How’s that hopey-changey thing workin’ out for you?” she asked at one point. She blasted him for rising deficits, “apologizing for America” in speeches in other countries, and for allowing the so-called Christmas bomber to board a plane headed for the United States, saying he was weak on the war on terrorism.

“To win that war, we need a commander in chief, not a professor of law,” she declared.

^^potentially not true at all, sry^^ (Z S), Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

“America is ready for another revolution!” she told the crowd, prompting the first of several standing ovations.

^^potentially not true at all, sry^^ (Z S), Sunday, 7 February 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i'm just not interested in that sub-dkos/crooksnliars gossip shit, i've got enough issues with sarah palin that i don't need to resort to calling her out

Normally I'd agree, but seeing as she called Obama out for using a Teleprompter in this speech, I think it's fair game...but yes, the speech is fucking scary shit...

carson dial, Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

“To win that war, we need a commander in chief, not a professor of law,” she declared.

I don't understand this at all. Is she saying that professors of law are less well-equipped to assume the role of commander in chief than other professions? Or is she saying that Obama approaches the commander in chief position as a lawyer, and he shouldn't...deliberate so much? Because that's what lawyers do - think about stuff a lot and weight different options? Or...or...? What the fuck is it supposed to mean?

^^potentially not true at all, sry^^ (Z S), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

she's saying the President of the United States is a Muslim extremist and must be stopped, with the help of crib notes, scribbled on one's palm with a half-empty Uniball

Mr. Que, Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i am fairly certain it's supposed to mean that he's a liberal panty-waist

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

U.S. Presidents who were lawyers:

John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
John Tyler
James Polk
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Abraham Lincoln
Rutherford Hayes
Chester Arthur
Grover Cleveland
Benjamin Harrison
William McKinley
William Taft
Woodrow Wilson
Calvin Coolidge
Franklin Roosevelt
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Bill Clinton

^^potentially not true at all, sry^^ (Z S), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Of those, which was Sarah Palin's favorite, btw? "Umm....all of them. Tied for first", she said.

^^potentially not true at all, sry^^ (Z S), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

The teleprompter attack always struck me as some sort of Rove-style "attack where your enemy is strongest" attempt but in reality it comes across as some pathetic response from an 8-year-old. They're desperately trying to grip at some line of assault on the guy who's currently the country's leading orator, but going "oh yeah?! oh yeah?! well well well he's just using a TELEPROMPTER!"

I.e. his vaulted speechifyin' abilities are nothing but the creation of some backroom cabal of Evil Libruls who type all this up for the Sheeple/Uneducated Masses & Evil Librul Media to lap up.

They're trying to boil it down the gradient: "O is speaking in public" -> "he's performing a pre-written speech" -> "he's reciting just whatever words are put on the screen there by other people" -> "he only mouths whatever others have said and doesn't believe any of it"

Like the dude is an Empty Suit and Inauthentic. It becomes shorthand for just saying "Dude is fake."

I mean, yeah, it also has the nice little side-effect of obscuring the fact that dude's predecessor couldn't speak for shit and reassuring the attacker that they're not so completely without guile that no Mere Pretty Words could _ever_ work on them.

Oh and ignores the countless times the President has spoke or done Q&As without prepared remarks of any kind, but hey, you construct your framing correctly, you can crowd out plenty of inconvenient stuff to the sidelines.

Sex Sexual (kingfish), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

If we get real, this speech was given to 1000 people at an event populated only by batshit fringe groupiess with no corresponding comparable group on the left - no matter what false equivalencies a Tea Party type manufactures while citing teleprompters and whatnot. Her fans don't do change because in number and mindset, nothing changes with them. The media reaction is its own feedback loop; other than the snow it's a slow news day and the swivelheads who find Palin compelling are probably now hunkered away watching the Super Bowl with everybody else. 2012 is a long way away and there are numerous opportunities for Palin and her pals to get cocky enough to tip their hands or say something more shockingly insensitive than 'fucking retard' in public.

spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, remember that lawyers(and especially _trial lawyers_) are Always The Enemy to these guys. Lawyers(and scientists, in a related way) offer a check on Authoritarians, as they can call you on your shit, and offset the power balance and domination you try to achieve. For folks who campaign on Law & Order, they tend not to give a shit about the former in pursuit on the latter.

Also, trial lawyers donate heavily to Democratic candidates. Tort reform is a related issue to this.

Sex Sexual (kingfish), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Oops, switched from 2nd-person to 3rd-person in consecutive sentences there. Still, you get the idea.

Sex Sexual (kingfish), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

this speech was given to 1000 people at an event populated only by batshit fringe groupiess

^This. NYT reported it was like 600 people. I bet only 500 at most were actually in attendance. Sarah's hype machine rolls on.

Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

well yeah but didn't they charge like a million dollars to attend?

jew bee or nazi bee (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

“We’re at war and these are acts of war that these terrorists are committing and we need to treat them differently,” she said. “I don’t think terrorists are worthy of rights that people like my son fight and are willing to die for.”

^anyway this is the kind of horrifying shit we should be attacking, not sarah's hand notes

jew bee or nazi bee (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 February 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link


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