HBO adaptation of Game of Thrones - will this be just for nerds? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)

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I think quite a few of the characters are funny. And despite what everyone says about relentless grimness (which spellcorrects as firmness) I think there's plenty of lighter moments (not that I necessarily require them but it would be a different show without them).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 November 2015 07:20 (eight years ago) link

yeah I don't get how you don't think Tyrion is funny, he's a droll little fellow (zomg book spoilerz)

pratt truss it (dan m), Friday, 6 November 2015 07:23 (eight years ago) link

goole otm

ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 13:27 (eight years ago) link

Not exactly sure why or how the Lannisters as a group are supposed to be subtle but as much as I love the show can't argue with a most of that

tsrobodo, Friday, 6 November 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

the lannisters aren't supposed to be subtle, they're supposed to be devious, conniving assholes and everyone in the show knows it

pratt truss it (dan m), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link

i liked the one w the guy in the box.

i absolutely loved this one

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

confession: i was the guy in the box

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

i didn't like how it ended

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Friday, 6 November 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

cersei especially, can't tell if that's the writing or performance but neither are good

i'm almost through season 4. I go back and forth on cersei; obviously the character intentionally enters every conversation with the goal of cutting the other person down to size and showing off her power by getting the brutal last word. And while that makes sense for the character, it gets so one-note at a certain point! And since that's basically all she does, the monologues about how much she loves her children seem kind of bogus, which I don't think they're supposed to.

intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

also i think the performance is intentionally a little hammy, like someone who is in over their head but trying to act like they think powerful people act. Just the way she holds her wine glass, for example. But like i said, it gets a little one-note at a certain point.

intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link

yeah her character in particular seems like it was conceived ad hoc. of all the people to be really mad that her daughter was being married off! and the incest? it's treated like this 'ooh nasty' broken taboo w/o any hint at a deeper psyche.

goole, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link

she's the ICE QUEEN who does DIRTY THINGS and is REALLY MEAN but *writes in column titled 'humanizing element'* REALLY LOVES HER KIDS

goole, Friday, 6 November 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things (this is my favourite tv show but all these things get overrated by lots of people) then going to film, comedy, comics and videogames threads saying "Mmmmmmm I love these yummy smelly turds, feed me more turds!" Maybe I'm just as guilty of this but it makes me want to keep a journal on every member who seems to hold vastly different standards for different things (I'm less familiar with Goole's opinions so I have no comparisons right now).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 6 November 2015 15:17 (eight years ago) link

I have more sympathy for someone who tears apart a crappy film they sat through for some reason than people who watch 4 seasons of a tv show they hate every second of.

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

idk, if ever there was a show to watch despite yourself

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 6 November 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

goole otm

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

I do actually enjoy reading some of the more demanding critiques and find half of it fair but I always get the feeling that people are always being way way way harsher toward overrated hyped things

I wasn't as harsh as goole from the start, but as season 4 becomes an increasing slog for me, those points really do resonate. I think this show obviously has certain strengths (which is why it's so beloved!), but idk, goole's critiques aren't just "this show is boring" or "the characters are dumb" or something

For me, the show always had an strain of cheap cynicism masquerading as "realness," but it becomes overwhelming as the seasons continue, and as the villainous characters become more cardboard and stupid.

intheblanks, Friday, 6 November 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link

I think I've mentioned this upthread but cersei's irrational(?) love of her children is essentially the paradigm of what the show (books?) thinks of as the potential for chaotic evil over and against the masculine meritocratic codes of honor typified by ned stark. maternal (and maybe Oedipal) love, is dangerous specifically because it is concerned for nothing but itself, and it is what sets the whole crazy ball of the narrative in motion. not sure that reading holds up but it's interesting to think about.

ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

not for nothing do father figures (or potential ones) kinda die off one by one...

ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:00 (eight years ago) link

I assume that reading would draw a parallel between Cersei and mama Stark (whose name I can't remember)

Οὖτις, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:02 (eight years ago) link

yes and also dany's trying to square the whole "mother of dragons" righteous fury thing with the (coded masculine in this reading) realities of governance. dany trying to be father and mother.

ryan, Friday, 6 November 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link

xp - though the show eliminated a plot involving Mrs. Stark's chaotic "evil" as a result of maternal love; i actually really wanted that to happen.

sarahell, Saturday, 7 November 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

who knows what might happen next season?

resulting post (rogermexico.), Saturday, 7 November 2015 23:06 (eight years ago) link

funniest thing on the whole show so far was the kid night watcher killing the redhead barbarian woman and then giving jon snow a sweet li'l nod. thanks buddy, you did it.

goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

:D

goole, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:41 (eight years ago) link

lol goole "this show is bad"... two weeks later season 4

lag∞n, Friday, 13 November 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

i think i feel okay enough to admit i only watch the show now for the sweet action scenes

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 12:46 (eight years ago) link

But they are so few and far between.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

i know... honest im just on my phone in betewen the fight scenes. i have no idea whats going on in the show anymore or how its different from the books

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:17 (eight years ago) link

When the violent noises start you look up?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

yuyp

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:26 (eight years ago) link

Were you watching the Spartacus tv series?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Whats that

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 13:55 (eight years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacus_(TV_series)

It initially looked like a shoestring budget version of 300, I thought it looked terrible but a lot of people said it was great silly fun and surprisingly engaging (but people said that about 300: Rise Of An Empire and they were wrong).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:08 (eight years ago) link

Spartacus >>>>>> GoT

I know when that Ott line zings (Spottie), Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

Cool man i'll check it out

i don't like action scenes or fighting scenes when they get too corny or goofy i like it when they have just the right amount of gravitas which is why i still watch GoT

, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link

Look forward to lots of manly laughter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2hgQLlUWGo

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 15 November 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

i like when ppl r slaughtered at weddings

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

from that pov this is the best show ever

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 November 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

goon you gotta see new jack city

balls, Sunday, 15 November 2015 21:05 (eight years ago) link

you've got red on you, jon snow

pratt truss it (dan m), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link

jeez hbo spoiler tag plz

Merdeyeux, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

he's just resting

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link

Not that it's surprising, but once you start bringing characters back to life, even in a world with thousands of snow zombies, then nothing really matters, does it? I only read the first couple of books, but it sounds like the show skipped/avoided the bizarro Lady Snowbrain or whatever plot, right? Just reading descriptions of that made no sense to me. So however he's brought back, assuming he is, and there is no reason not to assume he will be, then what the hell? Is he going to fight Zombie Mountain? Parley with the snow zombies? Bring all his ample dead family back, too?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

maybe he's just going to "chill"

Number None, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link

zombie Jon Snow will be extremely sexual, calling it now

polyphonic, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

Well, yeah.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link


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