Great lead performances in terrible movies

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Jessica Lange - Frances
Marion Cotillard - La Vie En Rose
Robert Downey, Jr - Chaplin

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

meryl streep - julie and julia

aix-en-pains (get bent), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Jeff Bridges - Crazy Heart

i have some examples for the opposite

Zeno, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

The easiest and most broad answer to this (especially given the responses so far) is 'pretty much any biopic'. Biopics are almost uniformly horrible and unnecessary, but the lead actor/actress often does a pretty good job of obsessively capturing the subject in question. Jim Carrey in Man On The Moon instantly comes to mind.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ben stiller - greenberg

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Debra Winger - The Sheltering Sky

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Philip Seymour Hoffman - Flawless

jed_, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Michael Moriarty in A Return To Salem's Lot.

everything, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

The easiest and most broad answer to this (especially given the responses so far) is 'pretty much any biopic'. Biopics are almost uniformly horrible and unnecessary, but the lead actor/actress often does a pretty good job of obsessively capturing the subject in question. Jim Carrey in Man On The Moon instantly comes to mind.

what about milk? I thought that was a pretty great movie.

peacocks, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

daniel day-lewis - gangs of new york

(e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Val Kilmer in Real Genius

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Good biopics I can think of off the top of my head are Ed Wood and 24 Hour Party People. I liked Milk as well. But those films purported to be about their subject but were all about more than that. The slavish 'follow a famous person's life from when he's a kid to when he achieves his goals/dies' Hollywood formula often results in boring pointless films, yeah.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Eddie Murphy in The Nutty Professor is pretty much the ultimate answer for me.

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

if a biopic is good you usually forget it's a biopic - e.g. raging bull or andrei rublev.

(e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ed Norton - American History X

GM, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf at real genius being a terrible movie

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

"Good biopics" is a future thread idea – unless it exists.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

jim carrey - ace ventura pet detective

Ari (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Jim Carrey has never been good in anything, except for Eternal Sunshine (and it's a small miracle he's as good as he is in that)

Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Faye Dunaway - Mommie Dearest

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

wow -- most of these ARE biopics

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

we have diff definitions of great performances AND terrible movies

(Had dinner w/ a H'wood friend last night who said that last one ruined Dunaway's career)
xp

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I've read it too and, judging by her decisions post-MD, it sounds possible.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Julie and Julia isn't a terrible movie -- certainly the only Ephron movie I'd watch again.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Frances was the first one I thought of.

really if the LEAD performance is great, it's very hard for a film to be terrible.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

thought that was common knowledge re: Faye Dunaway...?

she was great in Barfly tho

Orson Welles in Transformers (1986)
Scarlett Johansson's ass in Iron Man 2

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't see why anyone would give a shit about defaming Joan Crawford in 1981, though.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Mommie Dearest is the opposite of terrible.

rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm going to see Greenberg tonight--I hope Jordan S. is half-right, half-wrong...I'm having a hard time coming up with something. A great lead performance probably automatically elevates an otherwise terrible film to worth-seeing for me--i.e., it's no longer terrible by definition. But maybe I'm overlooking something.

clemenza, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

dunno if it was a *great* performance but I thought that joseph gordon-levitt kinda rose above the pretty fucking awful 500 Days of Summer.

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link

really if the LEAD performance is great, it's very hard for a film to be terrible.

although i answered the thread q. i broadly agree with this. Great acting can rescue just about any film.

jed_, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

the big red dragon pterodactyl thing in Avatar
Dustin Hoffman in Sphere
Samuel L Jackson in Deep Blue Sea
Nic Cage in The Wicker Man

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

really if the LEAD performance is great, it's very hard for a film to be terrible.

Yeah, I don't agree with that. My example stands: I think Jim Carrey was really strong in Man On The Moon and really disappeared into the role, but the movie was little more than an unnecessary series of Kaufman performances which everyone had already seen (including, sorry to stray off-topic, the still-baffling decision to recreate scenes from Taxi utilizing the actual, aged cast of Taxi 20 years after the fact), and it was abysmal as a movie.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Danny DeVito as Mini-Me in Austin Powers 3

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ben Affleck in Armeggedon

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

(the prequel to Armageddon)(the sequel to Megiddo [the sequel to Omega Code)

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't agree with it either. Frances is a compendium of baffling, poorly edited scenes, and Lange's work isn't quite enough to render it aesthetically pleasing.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Capr van Dien in Shark Attack

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link

this old pissed-off guy from shark attack 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfSg85fbJko

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

And of course, Brando in Island of Dr. Moreau

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the REAL canon

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm going to see Greenberg tonight--I hope Jordan S. is half-right, half-wrong...

i really liked greenberg, but i like a lot of things people hate.

aix-en-pains (get bent), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

me too :-/

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

you guys are kind of stretching the definition of "lead performance" imo. The list of great cameos/ bit performances in terrible movies is much longer.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Robert Downey Jr. - Two girls and a guy

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Robert Downey Jr. in...just about everything

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Two Girls and a Guy is a good movie, maybe one of RDJ's two or three best.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Robert Mitchum was the King of this sort of thing back in the day. and before his comeback in The Wrestler, Mickey Rourke had more than a few great performances in shitty films.

No Guru, No Method, No Teacher (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link

nic cage in bad lieutenant

cozen, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Two Girls and a Guy is a good movie, maybe one of RDJ's two or three best.

― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 1, 2010 11:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I watched it again the other day, and found the other two performances to be pretty awful, especially Heather Graham. There isn't exactly a lot of great filmmaking either.

RDJ carries the movie.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

nic cage in bad lieutenant

― cozen, Tuesday, June 1, 2010 11:05 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark

Nah this movie is pretty much awesome throughout. I mean come on, what about the "ohhh yeah" guy?

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

nic cage IS that movie

LINGO FROM THE BURGER KING KIDS CLUB (latebloomer), Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:26 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's fair

cozen, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Dennis (RIP) Hopper in "Blue Velvet". THAT'S RIGHT I WENT THERE

Myonga Vön Bontee, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link

actually, that would have been my first post on the thread.

jim carrey in truman show would be second

ampersand (remy bean), Thursday, 3 June 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It said great LEAD performances in terrible movies, and Hopper wasn't the lead (x-post). Kyle Maclachlan was.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 3 June 2010 01:30 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Agree that Hopper wasn't the lead, but I thought he'd gotten top billing for himself nonetheless.

more barn (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 February 2011 08:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Huppert in The Piano Teacher

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 February 2011 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Colin Farrell in Cassandra's Dream, or at least it was one of the biggest gulfs I've seen between quality of performance and movie (I guess him and Euan McGregor are joint leads)

This isn't really the same thing, but sometimes I feel like I only really appreciate how charismatic certain actors are when I see them in a crappy movie they make watchable/that would be unbearable with most other actors - I thought this while watching Tom Hanks in Turner & Hooch. I thought Baby Driver was terrible, but Kevin Spacey and Jamie Foxx are so charismatic that it almost seems like a good film while they're on screen. John Hamm is good in it as well, but not so good that he makes you forget you're watching a terrible film, that's why I would put him in a different category to Spacey and Foxx

soref, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

harvey keitel in city of industry comes to mind, he was thoroughly terrific as a vengeful crook hunting down stephen dorff. the movie is pretty generic at best, but keitel gives it his all like it’s tarantino-level.

omar little, Saturday, 26 November 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link


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