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Just read a great article about race + marijuana arrests in New York by Mark Jacobson: http://nymag.com/news/features/58995/

I don't think there's another thread like this -- a place to discuss the current movements to legalize marijuana (medicinally or otherwise) throughout the United States (and anywhere else that interests people), and any other legal/political/racial issues involved.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Cary Tennis' last column on Salon is called "How I Became a Pothead": http://www.salon.com/life/drugs/index.html?story=/mwt/col/tenn/2010/06/03/marijuana

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

Some other more recent stories:

Marie Myung-Ok Lee's "Why I Give My 9-Year-Old Pot" Series from Slate:
http://www.slate.com/id/2251174/

Marijuana inspiring Cuisine in NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/dining/19pot.html

Jack Shafer telling NY Times they are ridiculous for writing that piece:
http://www.slate.com/id/2254397/

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 17:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

not sure i want to read "why i gave my 9-year-old pot" but.. hm..
intriguingly, my mom's position on weed has flipped--she used to bother me about 'becoming a druggie' and now she is all 'oh, i think pot should be legalized.' maybe she's been lighting up?

ian, Sunday, 6 June 2010 18:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

living in massachusetts i can openly smoke pot at my gay wedding, but good luck to the rest of you.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://johngushue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/19/bob_dylan_greenwich_village.jpg

Come gather round people wherever you roam...

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

I cannot help but conclude, after a lifetime of observation, that the present power regime in the USA will never consent to legalize drugs, even if it results in more rational regulation of these activities, a massively lowering of the costs of incarceration (both social as well as monetary), and a cutting off of the funding for huge criminal organizations.

There's just too much money at stake in continuing the drug war now. The cops are mostly in favor of it, because it gives them more power and money, and they get to look like they are saving society from a scourge, while they are just engaging in a lot of fruitless, showy, theatrical idiocy. The prison industry is all for it. And politicians love it, because hating on druggies is the opposite side of the coin from loving mom and apple pie.

Against such stupidity even the gods contend in vain.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Really? Cause the winds seem to be heavily blowing towards legalization.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

Just became medically legalized in NJ, NY is currently looking to medically legalize it.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Those winds of legalization will die away to a whisper in the South. If the Feds maintain prohibition, then the states will not be able to enact the kind of reform and regulation that will do a proper job of it.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm okay with that. I think that if it becomes legal (or de facto legal) in enough of the country, eventually that'll push things over federally too. You just need to build some momentum, and I see momentum all over the place.

Mordy, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

If we could just strangle enough RRW Republicans, then maybe...

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

... but moral scruples forbid me to discuss this line of thought.

Aimless, Sunday, 6 June 2010 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

i hate the focus on medical though, no one should have to give a reason or be able to see a doctor to engage in freedom

― harbl, Sunday, June 6, 2010 3:14 PM (41 minutes ago)

idk, i agree totally about pot and think that all drug possessions should be decriminalized, but i wouldn't extend that 'freedom' to other illicit drugs or prescription medications obv

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

neither would i!

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

ha yeah i basically figured that's what you meant, i'm in lolcollege so i've had one too many conversations w/ ppl who are like yeah pot should be legal! fuck it all drugs should be legal!

fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

penalties in ca may be reclassified (no longer misdemeanor)

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/cannabis-chronicles/marijuana-possession-less-than/

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw, but the fact that it's a question is amazing even given the state of bud politics here.

vast majority of la dispensaries needing to ROLL with the punches meanwhile
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_15235255?source=rss

not posey: a problem (tremendoid), Sunday, 6 June 2010 20:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

they're pushing to get full legalization on the ballot in oregon this fall

what it feels like for a goon (The Reverend), Sunday, 6 June 2010 21:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Also, I don't know how it works, but if it makes people feel more comfortable maybe a mod can unindex this thread from google? (If not, can we move it to 77 or something?)

― Mordy, Sunday, June 6, 2010 12:37 PM (4 hours ago)

I've done this, though if it's kept to politics rather than personal habits, I don't know how necessary it was.

Grisly Addams (WmC), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

i hope it's not just a lolcollege idea to want to see see all drugs legalized. obviously we're not talking crack being freely available to schoolkids from the corner shop here; there would besome kind of sliding scale of control, e.g. cannabis as free as tobacco, e/speed/coke over the counter at the pharmacy, heroin perhaps only on prescription for registered addicts. i really don't see the benefit in having any substance completely criminalised. it does not effectively discourage use; it turns ordinary people into criminals - at best merely for usage/possession, at worst for having to commit crime in order to maintain a supply; it enables an enormous criminal trade; it means there is no control over substance purity. if drugs were under government control they would be clean and pure, they could be taxed to help fund treatment for addicts, and there would surely be a huge reduction in drug related crime.

ok maybe things wouldn't be quite that rosy. but it's clear the current system is a complete failure. and in general while i'm far from libertarian i am a strong believer in personal liberty and the idea of the government having such a strong say over what i choose to put into my body is anathema to me.

sent from my neural lace (ledge), Sunday, 6 June 2010 22:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

no i don't think the lolcollege thing refers to what you're talking about, just a certain type of libertarian thinking. i don't believe in drug criminalization either for the same reasons as you said, it has done a lot of very bad things to america in my opinion.

harbl, Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

Full legalization is a LONG way away. The area of law I practice in, employment, is one of the areas where this is really clear: The California Fair Employment and Housing Act, or FEHA, recognizes the use of some prescription drugs, and mandates that employers, in certain situations, must accommodate the user of those drugs if the use of those drugs somehow limits their ability to do their job.

But it doesn't provide the same protections to medical marijuana. The way in which the Compassionate Care Act of 1996 was drafted, it addresses only the criminal aspects as it pertains to patients. It doesn't address employment aspects, or any of the other ways in which marijuana can impact lives. The CA Supreme Court ruled that employers do not have to accommodate compassionate care users for precisely this reason - the Act doesn't address employment law. Kind of a legal punt, but it drew attention to just how narrowly the Compassionate Care Act is drawn. There was an Oregon decision recently which arrived at the same rationale. Now, if two of the most pot-friendly states in the country have rulings like that on the books, the 9th circuit is not likely to hold another way if a case were to make it that far.

But the decriminalization has been good. And, in reality, no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag. Driving while doing smoking/stoned? Another story, as well it should be.

Let Amare go ham like he was all you can eating it (B.L.A.M.), Sunday, 6 June 2010 23:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

I doubt we'll ever see pot legalized, though it would be so convenient if it was. OK, maybe not "ever," but I really seriously doubt it'll happen in the next 20-40 years, or so long as we have Mormons in the U.S.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:14 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rev otm, and if you're in the "wrong" neighborhood, you'd be surprised how small an infraction you can end up in handcuffs for

the mom most likely to comprehend juggalos (J0hn D.), Monday, 7 June 2010 14:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

no cop is going to bust you for a joint or a dime bag.

if you have the right color of skin

― donk quixote (The Reverend), Monday, June 7, 2010 10:02 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark

I used to work at a diner where for dishwashers we hired convicts who were trying to get back on their feet, and they were mostly black guys that had been in jail for years and years after being busted in this way. Legalization is in a large part a civil rights cause.

Adam Bruneau, Monday, 7 June 2010 16:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

i think the legalization ballot measure is going down fwiw

why do you think this...? I haven't seen any authoritative polling to-date.

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 16:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/31/local/la-me-0601-poll-20100529

i just have a feeling. people don't pay attention to propositions, even this one, until the ads start ratcheting up and the opposition has a lot of boogeymen to unleash, not to mention opposing the measure more forcefully in the coming months is low-hanging fruit for both of the likely gub nominees. from what i've seen, trying to put myself in the shoes of the 'average voter' the pro argument as articulated feels kind of ad-hoc but that could change too.

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Besides the Office of National Drug Control Policy, who funds opposition advertising? Someone said the cigarette companies spend a lot on opposition advertising, but I couldn't find any data to support that. Anyone here know?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

cigarette companies are all broke I thought

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:59 (eight years ago) Permalink

I would not be surprised if it were religious people (cough cough Mormons). If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

are tobacco companies even allowed to spend campaign money? so many lawsuits/civil suits have crippled the industry

xp

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

If there *were* a national vote, you bet the Mormon Church would do a Prop-8 style $$$$ push to shut that shit down. I promise.

I can see this happening. at the same time, most of the country does not love Mormons, much less being told what to do by Mormons.

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

like what is the percentage that thinks Mormons aren't "really" Christians...? it's pretty high iirc

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Well, sure, but it worked w/Prop 8, right?

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

And it's not like they would advertise, "WE, the MORMONS, want you to never smoke pot! And also we don't really have multiple wives. Brought to you by THE MORMONS."

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Sponsored by the Mormons For Curtailing Your Fun Committee for America (c)

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

At any rate, this topic of converrsation ("will pot be legalized") always kind of feels like a mass funtime of projections of the speakers' pasts & desires. I, por ejemplo, would love for pot to be legalized, but grew up in a community where smoking weed was tantamount (in perceived riskiness & evilness) to smoking meth. This informs my perspective. I imagine someone who grew up in a less conservative area, or had pot-smoking parents, would have a more optimistic view. ANd someone who thinks weed is bad, and has never smoked it, would naturally be more inclined to say it's so not gonna happen. I feel in some ways like there's no way to know.

breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

i suspect in my lifetime we will see the states where it's been cleared for medical purposes legalize it wholesale; everywhere else will be in sort of limbo between where we are now and full legalization

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:15 (eight years ago) Permalink

It seems to me that once it's become fully legalized in a few states, it'll be de facto legal everywhere. They can't exactly set up state border patrols to make sure you aren't buying in NJ and driving it up to NY, or whatever.

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

still pretty illegal in lots of europe, despite amsterdam

iatee, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Europe's different

in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

As far as I know, Prohibition was repealed everywhere all at once, but an interesting comparison might be individual state tax laws on vices. Technically, afaik, it's illegal to buy alcohol in NJ and then drive it into PA, but this obviously happens all the time, whenever someone in Cherry Hill picks up a bottle of wine and then drives to his friend's place in Philadelphia, and it's de facto legal. How can you enforce that kind of law?

Mordy, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

wrt CA as an avowed pessimist the fact that they gathered the signatures still feels like found money, bottom line is i think the radius of 'public consciousness raising' for legalization hasn't extended nearly as far as the medical angle, which tbh still relies on compassion for the very very sick to get over (medical cannabis is not going away but it's still plenty begrudged among the majority of counties and municipalities). i mean i hope that's an antiguated view of how politics move in 2010 but yeah, prop 8. think we can just wipe away the culture of prohibition w/o at least will n' gracing it for a minute, it just can't be that easy, right?

edd|e house is not a homie (tremendoid), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, i guess i would liken it blue laws around here. like, you would probably never ever be able to just pop by dispensary/ package store in the state of Tennessee and buy a nice bottle of wine and some white widow for your dinner party. but if you were pulled over and had an oz cops would just be like eh, whatever - as long as you aren't smokin & drivin (someone will obviously need to build some kind of breath-alizer for weed if it's ever to be legalized i'm guessing)

used to bull's-eye Zach Wamps in my T-16 back home (will), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

NY MM is a fucking joke as well

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:10 (five months ago) Permalink

you'd be better off with one if the delivery guys in NYC. My nephew has a guy come by with the whole assortment of labeled meds from CA

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:12 (five months ago) Permalink

yeah... in PA i can qualify for MM and i might do it for the novelty (and i guess to have the RX on hand in case i ever get stopped? unlikely) but it seems like it'll still be cheaper and easier to use other means of procurement

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:15 (five months ago) Permalink

maybe once I have it I can supplement with some drops of CBD oil at the same time? Bad idea?

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:22 (five months ago) Permalink

it would not hurt imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:24 (five months ago) Permalink

All my paperwork is done and now I just wait 4 to 6 weeks while DC takes its sweet sweet time.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:50 (five months ago) Permalink

While meanwhile I can get vicodin and valium on demand

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:51 (five months ago) Permalink

High THC/low CBD just means it's basically the same mix as anything you've ever used recreationally. If that has worked for your GE issues (Crohn's?) then you don't need to supplement CBD.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:06 (five months ago) Permalink

I've... never really smoked.

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:19 (five months ago) Permalink

why not

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:24 (five months ago) Permalink

it's v easy anyone can do it but u might cough the first few times

Mordy, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:25 (five months ago) Permalink

I never got the fuss, tbh.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:27 (five months ago) Permalink

ah, in case of not being experienced, some CBD drops in advance (they have to be digested, and you need to take a fairly hefty amount - like 20-30mg+ of CBD at once) to dull possible anxiety from the THC is probably advisable.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:34 (five months ago) Permalink

or just remember that the Sun is going to burn out and none of this shit matters

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:15 (five months ago) Permalink

I'm sure that will help Jon's crippling internal pain

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 00:21 (five months ago) Permalink

p cool

SF will wipe thousands of marijuana convictions off the books - http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-will-wipe-thousands-of-marijuana-convictions-12540550.php

marcos, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:51 (four months ago) Permalink

brimstead otm x100, just waited 20 mins behind a bunch of basics asking stupid stupid questions so that I could pay $70 for an eighth and a joint (in fancy bourgeoise packaging) which was then slapped with a 20% tax by the city (and i had to pay $3 for a childproof security bag)

I regret voting for legalization

the late great, Friday, 2 February 2018 03:52 (four months ago) Permalink

I mean not really because fuck the drug war and the prison industry but this is wack

when i was in Oregon prices were low and quality was high - maybe it will just take awhile for the market to adjust

the late great, Friday, 2 February 2018 03:54 (four months ago) Permalink

Tempting to say just decriminalize it and wipe convictions instead of the regulatory processes but let's be honest about what unregulated capital would do with weed products. There'd be a higher percentage of DDT than THC.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 2 February 2018 04:11 (four months ago) Permalink

i should shut up, american spirits cost like $10 here now so it's not like a 20% vice tax is that out of line w/ everything else, and the product is higher quality ...

the late great, Friday, 2 February 2018 04:21 (four months ago) Permalink

delivery services are getting very popular, probably because they're dodging the taxes and passing on the savings to the consumer. wonder how that's going to get shut down?

the late great, Friday, 2 February 2018 04:24 (four months ago) Permalink

xp to Jon: you really need to hang out with me sometime soon. I will explain things.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 2 February 2018 04:31 (four months ago) Permalink

it's not like i'm the pot whisperer or anything but i can help

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 2 February 2018 04:32 (four months ago) Permalink

tlg 70 for an eighth is outrageous, ounces are on special for 100 here in Oregon

I think you're right that is is a new market/supply + demand issue, hopefully things will get better. the childproof bags are so wasteful!

sleeve, Friday, 2 February 2018 05:07 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah it is! i think you can get good quality ounces for like $199 if you use a delivery service. i should shop around more.

because of zoning laws + permit uncertainty there are only like 5-10 legal dispensaries in a county of 3 million right now, that's probably contributing to the situation

the late great, Friday, 2 February 2018 05:14 (four months ago) Permalink

it took like 2 years for the price to settle down here in CO, it used to be like 200+/ounce for okay weed or 350+ for good stuff right after amendment 64 passed, nowadays i got a place i go to down the street that has great herb for 130/ounce.

you still get hosed at least a bit everywhere for buying, say, an eighth rather than a full ounce, but i mean a whole ounce is a lot of weed... i go through prolly close to an ounce a month btwn myself + smoking out friends and clients, i should write this shit off lol

sleepingbag, Friday, 2 February 2018 06:33 (four months ago) Permalink

WATCH: Attorney General Jeff Sessions says his goal for 2018 is to see a further decline in prescriptions of opioids, and says, "we think a lot of this is starting with marijuana and other drugs." pic.twitter.com/paWSsEuNrl

— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 7, 2018

idiot

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:14 (four months ago) Permalink

"The DEA said a huge percentage of the heroin addiction starts with prescriptions. That may be an exaggerated number..they had it as high as 80% . we think a lot of this is starting with marijuana and other drugs..but we'll see what the facts show"

hey now don't start worrying yourself with things like facts

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:20 (four months ago) Permalink

spinning around til you get dizzy is a gateway "drug"
if you get into heroin, you're likely to be at least willing to try any and all other drugs. It's like saying baby food is a gateway to foie gras.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:27 (four months ago) Permalink

They screwed up not cracking down on day one, I'm actually starting to get hopeful that the political mood has solidified for some version of decriminalization or legalization just about everywhere that rolling it back would have consequences.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:30 (four months ago) Permalink

blaming weed for opiate addiction is like blaming the home baking industry for national obesity.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 8 February 2018 00:10 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

He's smart to recognize that legal pot will be easier to control than illegal pot, and be a net revenue generator, not a prison-crowding drain on the state budget. Also smart to want to get NJ up and running before NY gets onto the legalization bandwagon. Let's hope NJ's citizens are equally smart.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 15 March 2018 01:28 (three months ago) Permalink

New Jersey Responsible Approaches to Marijuana Policy, a group that opposes marijuana, said Tuesday that the tax revenues from legal pot "pale in comparison to the ... lost tourism dollars"

How does that work?

mick signals, Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:30 (three months ago) Permalink

oh yes ! people are making a point to stay away from Colorado because of the demon w33d
https://i.imgur.com/g41G3Ut.jpg

fuck RAMP they are fear mongering misinformation spreading assholes. wonder where they get their funding from ?

from their site lol
https://i.imgur.com/89N4Yox.jpg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:48 (three months ago) Permalink

the green crack strain in pretty good tbh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:48 (three months ago) Permalink

it seems like it's impossible to find mids here unless you go to the trap (and even then it's hard) which is kind of a pain. one of the reasons I had to quit tbh.

had (crüt), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:59 (three months ago) Permalink

one of the worst strain names in a crowded field

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 March 2018 14:08 (three months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan-lawmakers-consider-legalizing-medical-marijuana-before-november-ballot

There's enough signatures that legalization will probably be on the ballot this fall, and will probably pass. So the republican state government is talking about legalizing before that, so they can reduce voter turnout in November (where there just so happens to be an anti-gerrymandering bill on the ballot).

joygoat, Friday, 6 April 2018 17:09 (two months ago) Permalink

that's so fucked, just that transparent awareness, "more people voting is bad for us"

seems like the various cannabis bills that come out of state legislatures are often worse than the ballot initiatives

all that said it would be really great to have some legal cannabis in the midwest

marcos, Friday, 6 April 2018 17:59 (two months ago) Permalink

THREAD: It’s official. Today, I am formally announcing my plan to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level. It’s time we allow states, once and for all, to have the power to decide what works best for them.

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) April 20, 2018

marcos, Friday, 20 April 2018 16:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Good luck, Chuck!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 20 April 2018 16:25 (two months ago) Permalink

happy 4/20 to chuck schumer

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 20 April 2018 16:26 (two months ago) Permalink

since this is the thread that happens to be bumped:

i'm a couple of months into taking sublingual MMJ tincture for my Crohn's disease, under the NY program.

First month was a high CBD/low THC ratio. One 0.5ml dropper syringe in the morning, one at night. I did not see an effect on my baseline after a month (was pretty compliant on the dosing - only missed one dose during that time).

On my return visit to the union square dispensary, talked with the pharmacist and she wanted to try me on 1:1 ratio for a month (2.5mg THC, 2.5 mg CBD per dose, one in the morning one at night).

The 1:1 did help, but only after I got to the third week, had a mini-flareup, and tried a double dose that morning. The double dose knocked out my flareup symptoms and seemed to lead into a period of stability for several days following, even though I went back to my regular dosing after the 2x one. Had another mini flare the next week, did the same thing, same result.

Came back to dispensary this Monday and shared my experience; they advised that based on this I ought to keep taking the 2.5mg/2.5mg 2x/day as my standard, but double it when I get noticeably symptomatic.

So I feel hopeful about where my baseline will be after a few months of this. The only thing is, when I take a double dose I definitely feel lightly baked, in contrast to the regular dose which doesn't SEEM to have any psychoactivity for me.

Here's a side question though: I'm supposed to drive to Boston tomorrow, drive back the next day. Driving is not part of my daily obv. SHOULD I be driving while taking a 1:1 sublingual tincture? Every resource just tells me to 'take time to be aware how medical marijuana affects you before driving'. Thanks. I don't think it's out of the question that my regular dose might produce a slight diminishment of reaction time, even though I don't feel high on it...?

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Friday, 20 April 2018 16:27 (two months ago) Permalink

as a fellow Crohn's sufferer, I'm wondering what you consider to be a mini flare-up?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 20 April 2018 16:51 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah i know that can mean a lot of things to a lot of people!

gas-like abdominal cramps/roiling, a felt need to get stuff out coupled with everything being kind of tense/seized up so that I'm making lots of minimally productive trips to the bathroom, enervation, bone-deep depression wave, feeling of fever without a temperature

pretty much sums it up

I guess I say 'mini' if I don't have to go to the ER and there's no blood, lol

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Friday, 20 April 2018 17:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Are you on 77? There’s a relevant thread there I prefer to post to for privacy reasons.

Mordy, Friday, 20 April 2018 17:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Ok will cross post to that if I can find it on Zing.

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Friday, 20 April 2018 17:30 (two months ago) Permalink


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