Hale and Pace -- idiots or just simply shit for brains?

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'Inspired' by that Keith Allen thing I did and the remembering that someone brought them up in the chat on Friday as well. Them in The Young Ones: tedious. Their own show, which I had the misfortune of seeing an episode of back in 1992: JESUS H. CHRIST WHAT FUCKING CRAP.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Though miniscule points for a briefly amusing Inspector Morse parody consisting of pubs and bodies.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned are there not enough arsewitted American comedians around that you have to bother yourself with ours??

Tom, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

good indicator of crapness = they appeared in the last tv dr who story. they also appear on the colorbox album though, so hmmm.

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The mention of them the other day was like an atavistic memory crawling up from my reptilian subconscious. To exorcise this from my BRANE, I choose to share.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

they also appear on the colorbox album though, so hmmm.

Is that them with the 'walk down the streets' bit? I had wondered.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

it is.

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait, who were they in "Survival"?

I thought everyone loved "The Young Ones" and felt like a very bad Anglophile for thinking it was about as entertaining as having nails driven into your scrotum by zombie lords (cf "The Serpent And The Rainbow").

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

they are better than keith allen, but not as good as the chuckle brothers or keith harris and orvil.

jel --, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

they are the two running the small grocery shop in perivale. i think one of them gets mauled by the camera PoV cat thingy. can't recall properly due to trauma induced memory-loss.

Alan Trewartha, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Giant man-cats mauling bad comedians: classic or CLASSIC?

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hale and Pace
Genre: Comedy
Original Screening(s): 1988-97
Hard-hitting and fast-moving modern humour served up by the irreverent and highly popular duo, Gareth Hale and Norman Pace.

"The duo made a regular habit of trying to offend as many viewers as possible and generated a huge number of complaints over the years"

Put the lattes aside, these lads are all froth
By CAROLYN WEBB
Thursday 18 October 2001
Comedy duo Hale and Pace

If you're stuck up, it may be best to avoid British comedy duo Hale and Pace's new live show. Hoitytoity types, they say, just don't get them.

This is the humor that depicts a ``guide cat'' leading a blind person, TV cooking hosts microwaving a cat and theatre critics chastising their children for a school performance.

It's not everyone's glass of chardonnay.

However, with Gareth Hale and Norman Pace back for their sixth tour of Australia, it's evident that they do have a fan base out there. They are doing more than 40 gigs in two months at venues from Launceston to Newcastle. They play two shows at Melbourne's Crown casino and will also do gigs in Geelong and Frankston.

Hale and Pace promise that many favorite characters from their 10year TV series will be there on stage, including the East End nightclub bouncers the Two Rons and the children's television presenters Billy and Johnny.

They love to act the lads in their skits but in real life they're very nice blokes.

Hale is the tubby, fairhaired, mustachioed one with the cockney accent. Pace is rubberfaced, impish and darkhaired, with slightly more rounded vowels.

They have been performing since they met at teacher's college in southeast England in 1971, and after 10 years of their own TV series and hundreds of live shows, are still great friends. Actually, more like the proverbial married couple, talking in tandem. Funny even in normal conversation.

``We have brought some new people (meaning characters) across with us,'' Hale says over lunch.

``Gareth's doing, well, it was the alphabet song, but it's become the alcohol song,'' Pace adds.

``An anthem to drinking,'' says Hale. ``I play Duncan Disorderly.''

``Acting drunk is very difficult, but he's very good at it,'' comments Pace. ``I'll have to do a lot of research,'' says Hale.

Reading past reviews, the pair rarely get lukewarm press. Critics either hate them or love them. Take these reviews of their (final) 1999 TV series when it ran in Melbourne: ``Overrated ... predictable sketches ... punchlines are as fresh as weekold porridge,'' wrote the Herald Sun's Garry Mansfield.

But in a review in The Age Misha Ketchell commented: ``...there's something pleasing about the unsophisticated approach of Hale and Pace; they practise a certain brand of laddish toilet humor, imbued with a vaguely British sense of the absurd ... continues to elicit the odd guilty giggle ...''

Norman Pace has chewed on this phenomenon and concludes: ``With the smartarse, caffe latte, artyfarty party types - and their partner - we're not very popular.

``But the ordinary people of Australia seem to like what we do.

``I think we're down to earth. You know, `smart smut' is what we specialise in, mainly.''

It's easy to label the pair laddish and misogynist, but they say they're out to entertain both women and men. Pace points to the bawdiness of your average hen's night. ``Women like to laugh at willy jokes as much as men,'' he says. ``Hopefully, anyway. Otherwise we've been pissing up the wrong alley for 20 years. I think it's actually sexist to propose that it's any other way.

``Most of the jokes we do are derogatory to men, actually. Absolutely. We belittle ourselves and other men far more than we would belittle women. And we never do jokes about racial minorities. We will have a laugh at the expense of Aussies and New Zealanders and British, they're great big grown up states that can take care of themselves. We won't have a whack at racial minorities whose lives are already difficult in our country or yours. You won't find us coming on and doing jokes about Aboriginal people or Maoris or any immigrants here at all.''

Hale and Pace love Australia, partly, they say, because we `get' their humor. They don't tour the US, because the Americans don't get them.

It's a funny - funny as in weird - time for comics at the moment. After the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, funnymen worldwide, including Americans David Letterman and Jay Leno, and Australia's Peter Berner, gave solemn tributes in the place of the usual joviality.

Hale and Pace say they will avoid the terrorism issue.

Hale says: ``It's very difficult to find any corner of that that can be seen as the foundation for jokes.

``These things have no place in our show really,'' says Pace. ``If anything, I guess what we're doing is trying to take people away from that, have a laugh, forget the problems that they have, you know?

``We're the froth on the cappuccino.''

their most recent BBC series — which was comedy with an "internet" interlude, i seem horribly to recall — was pulled after just two eps, i think, but i can't find any details on the interweb

smartarse, caffe latte, artyfarty party type s, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

...performing since they met at teacher's college...

Am I alone in thinking that this is an appalling sign, and we should have known?

Martin Skidmore, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Their fireworks advert was good. Don't mess around with fireworks or we'll thump you.

PJ Miller, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hale and Pace are about half as funny as a train wreck. Most of their newer 'jokes' have to be translated from the original Latin after they were found behind public john doors in the ruins of Pompeii.

But now the fact that they're 'politically incorrect' (a term which to me sounds like PC talk for bloody rude) or 'laddish' gives them hero points with those writers whose brief it is to condescend to those they (the aforementioned writers) view as uneducated and unsophisticated and needing themselves (see above) to be their voice for them.

If Hale and Pace had been around then, most conservative 'moral guardian' writers back in the 50s and 60s would have called them (like they did call Benny Hill, the Wiz magazine, the Carry On movies, etc) tedious, unfunny, cretinous attention-seeking garbage. And they'd have been dead right, as they were re Hill and co.

BJ, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

six years pass...

Your name's not down so you're not coming in.

Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 9 October 2008 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

Harry and Paul make me nostalgic for Hale and Pace

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

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Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 9 October 2008 14:11 (seventeen years ago)

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Carrie Bradshaw Layfield (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Thursday, 9 October 2008 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

maybe the only post-war british comedy duo to have never appeared in blackface (unless they did).

Annoying Display Name (blueski), Thursday, 9 October 2008 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

my biopsychology tutor has a disturbing swipe of gareth hale about him. only in looks, though. i think.

easy, lionel (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 9 October 2008 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

With the smartarse, caffe latte, artyfarty party types - and their partner - we're not very popular.

But the ordinary people of Australia seem to like what we do.

The Slash My Father Wrote (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 9 October 2008 14:17 (seventeen years ago)


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