U.S. Planning to Recruit One in 24 Americans as Citizen Spies

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US PLANNING TO RECRUIT ONE IN 24 AMERICANS AS CITIZEN SPIES
Ritt Goldstein, Sydney Morning Herald, 7/15/02

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/14/1026185141232.html

The Bush Administration aims to recruit millions of United States citizens as domestic informants in a program likely to alarm civil liberties groups.

The Terrorism Information and Prevention System, or TIPS, means the US will have a higher percentage of citizen informants than the former East Germany through the infamous Stasi secret police. The program would use a minimum of 4 per cent of Americans to report "suspicious activity."

Civil liberties groups have already warned that, with the passage earlier this year of the Patriot Act, there is potential for abusive, large-scale investigations of US citizens.

As with the Patriot Act, TIPS is being pursued as part of the so-called war against terrorism. It is a Department of Justice project.

Highlighting the scope of the surveillance network, TIPS volunteers are being recruited primarily from among those whose work provides access to homes, businesses or transport systems. Letter carriers, utility employees, truck drivers and train conductors are among those named as targeted recruits...

Historically, informant systems have been the tools of non-democratic states. According to a 1992 report by Harvard University's Project on Justice, the accuracy of informant reports is problematic, with some informants having embellished the truth, and others suspected of having fabricated their reports.

Present Justice Department procedures mean that informant reports will enter databases for future reference and/or action. The information will then be broadly available within the department, related agencies and local police forces. The targeted individual will remain unaware of the existence of the report and of its contents.

The Patriot Act already provides for a person's home to be searched without that person being informed that a search was ever performed, or of any surveillance devices that were implanted.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

new secret police answers?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What's the pay like?

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Just the satisfaction of a job well-done, Dan. Or at least done in some way, or whatever.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, well fuck that, then.

Dan Perry, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Another brilliant plan destroyed!

Ridiculous, of course. I suspect it'll last about two seconds as a viable option.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

where did my copy of radio free albemuth go?

Josh, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dan correct me if I'm wrong, but it almost sounds as if you don't support the aims of our government.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What are you moaning about? You can inform on people you hate!

DG, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i. the STASI "recruited" more than 50% of East Germany's population
ii. the STASI was not able to predict the collapse of the East German regime (one day its citizens just walked away)

mark s, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

sinker: yes, but therefore the stasi were not effective and people should just have disregarded them from the start? Sometimes THEY really do get some power, you know? Yr talking like mister six fingers here.

Josh: It's at the party. Everyone else is already presid.. present.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Stasi not effective at what they were "supposed" to be doing but very effective at fucking up, which is the real danger obv. (In 1972 my parents were raided at home, at night, while in their bed, by real trained FBI agents - they had been trailing my father for weeks thinking he was someone ELSE who ALSO had a BEARD)

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Well Tracer if there's anything we've learned lately it's that when a man with a beard does something bad, it really is for the greater good to round up all the men with beards, for safety's sake. I'm sure your father's complaints only gave pause to our friends and comfort to our beardy enemies.

nabisco%%, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom will have the fear.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I think if someone has nothing to hide, he wouldn't try to disguise himself with a beard.

Martin Skidmore, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mr six fingers = hannibal lecter?

stasi power didn't derive from their ability to see clearly, process information accurately

mark s, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

But beards are natural. Wearing one is not a disguise!

I have heard the question posed: How could you respect a man who is not man enough to wear a beard?

toraneko, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I was just thinking the other day that for the first time in my life I could see the point of belonging to the intelligence services. I actually would quite like to defend my country in that way. Maybe I've been watching too much 24. I need my sleep though - I start making bizarre decisions when I'm sleep deprived.

N., Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

mr. six fingers = antonio alfonseca

J Blount, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tom is 834rd1355 => he is ph34r1355

RickyT, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Santa, for christmas I want a translator program that can change all my dialogue into ph34r-style writing, kind of like the one in Microserfs that changes everything into Prince song titles.

Dave M., Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There is one on the web somewhere. Mr Phay is a regular user iirc.

RickyT, Thursday, 18 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

nine months pass...
Whatever happened to this?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Operation TIPS was scuttled some time ago.

hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Or else it quietly went into effect, but under the Patriot Act no one was required to tell anyone that.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:02 (twenty-three years ago)

No, Dick Armey scuttled it.

hstencil, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:07 (twenty-three years ago)

It was a joke, son. A joke.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:08 (twenty-three years ago)


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