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I know this isn't a new thing, but I am finding the Internet increasingly unreadable. Drop-downs, pop-ups, scroll-overs, like every single page I go to to read something (except ILX) is so cluttered with moving parts that it is actively difficult to just navigate and read.

I know all the reasons for it, the desperate attempts to monetize clicks and content somehow someway, but it feels like it's approaching a breaking point. Though it is also possible I am just a middle-aged guy who doesn't like all the moving pieces, and the kids are just fine with it.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 00:54 (eight years ago) link

the kids don't use the web

eyecrud (silby), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 01:07 (eight years ago) link

not even Wikipedia for homework?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 02:01 (eight years ago) link

i can verify that students use the web quite avidly in order to locate the top google result for a variety of things

j., Tuesday, 12 April 2016 02:18 (eight years ago) link

lag∞n wrote something kind of relevant last year: https://medium.com/@on3ness/the-nightmare-online-espn-go-com-475d1d31b391#.b05mvg94s

basically the internet is terrible and no one should use it.

circles, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 06:29 (eight years ago) link

Try one of these amazing new sites on an older iphone. 20% the time they crash completely - especially gratifying if you were a few dozen scrolls down your facebook feed at the time - if not you have to wait about 30 seconds before they show you any text, often stuttering or freezing completely for another 30 seconds when you try to scroll.

How about those ads which however gingerly you tread around them manage to register a click, and take you out of the browser and into the app store? Should be a hanging offence.

Just can't get Eno, ugh (ledge), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 08:05 (eight years ago) link

lag∞n wrote something kind of relevant last year: https://medium.com/@on3ness/the-nightmare-online-espn-go-com-475d1d31b391#.b05mvg94s

Exactly!Especially otm about the sticky headers. I hate when like 30% of the screen follows along as you scroll down. And I'm sure he's right that responsive design is partly responsible, but actually responsive design gives you good readability at any scale -- it doesn't sacrifice desktop readability for better phone/tablet nav.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 12:33 (eight years ago) link

lol, i was looking at a film festival website with sticky header AND sticky footer yesterday, and the actual film schedule was basically unreadable.

i'm still sort of baffled by the logic of "facebook is eating our lunch, nobody goes to homepages anymore" -> "making our website unpleasant to use on a pc is our highest design priority"

circles, Monday, 18 April 2016 04:07 (eight years ago) link

does everyone running a site have numbers that say they drive big traffic their own way by notifying via email or are they all just going gaga over some identikit javascript widget that lets them greet people w/ email signup bleg boxes? those fuckin things are a plague.

j., Monday, 18 April 2016 05:28 (eight years ago) link

yes, sign me up!
no thanks, i love hitler

Forever LXI (rip van wanko), Monday, 18 April 2016 05:56 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

has there been a bunch of research that says that people really love to scroll? like i assume that including maximum scrolling must be good for revenue or people wouldn't be doing it, but i tend to just bail out if i'm not interested in the first few screenfulls of articles i see. the ringer is pretty much the worst offender in this regard, but it seems like most web 5.0 or whatever designs do this.

circles, Friday, 16 September 2016 16:50 (seven years ago) link

phones

ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Friday, 16 September 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

sadly otm

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 16 September 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

yeah, but even on phones i don't find endless scrolling especially pleasant. i guess it is sort of compulsive, like as long as you give users something to do, they'll keep doing it. a guy i work with apparently got to "the end" of his facebook feed recently, and i didn't think that was possible.

circles, Friday, 16 September 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

it's possible if you unfollow most people

before i deleted my fb profile i would go on it once a week and nobody had updates and it was just the same posts as the week before

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 16 September 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

some links:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-21/internet-service-disrupted-in-large-parts-of-eastern-u-s

The latest comes the day after Doug Madory, Dyn’s director of Internet Analysis, gave a presentation at an industry conference about research he had done on questionable practices at BackConnect Inc., a firm that offers web services, including helping clients manage DDoS attacks. According to Madory, BackConnect had regularly spoofed internet addresses through a technique known as a “BGP hijack,” an aggressive tactic that pushes the bounds of accepted cyber-security industry practices.

Madory’s research was conducted with Brian Krebs, a well-known writer on computer-security issues, who also published an article based on the research last month. Within hours, his website was hit by a “extremely large and unusual” DDoS attack, he wrote.

the bloomberg article mentions that the ddos attack is believed to have been conducted by a botnet of internet-connected appliances, here's an article about iot attacks:
http://blog.level3.com/security/grinch-stole-iot/
As with the gafgyt malware family, Mirai targets IoT devices. The majority of these bots are DVRs (>80percent) with the rest being routers and other miscellaneous devices, such as IP cameras and Linux servers.

1staethyr, Friday, 21 October 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

the internet of things is gonna getcha

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 22 October 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link

les choses sont contre nous

1staethyr, Saturday, 22 October 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

here comes dat boi bruce schneier

https://www.schneier.com/images/bruce-blog3.jpg

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Saturday, 22 October 2016 04:32 (seven years ago) link

what you don't see in that photo is his ponytail

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Saturday, 22 October 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link

lol @ wikileaks claiming their supporters did yesterday's thing

El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 October 2016 12:53 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/20/technology/forgers-use-fake-web-users-to-steal-real-ad-revenue.html

couldn't have happened to a etc etc

j., Wednesday, 21 December 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link

oh no those poor advertisers

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 01:16 (seven years ago) link

lol @ naming your company White Ops

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link

like, how about no

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link

i love the idea of programming bots to watch ads, as if society wasn't absurd enough, every day we reach a new low.

animals looking at us like we are insane cos we fucking are. is this really life?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

medium is shocked to learn that ad-driven media on the internet doesn't serve people, gives up

https://blog.medium.com/renewing-mediums-focus-98f374a960be#.ezzjciatm

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

i'm getting the vibe that blogs are BACK BACK BACK! even though some have already proclaimed the Death Of The Feed

is it because FB is not delivering the traffic it once did?

contextless destination pages somewhere in the soup of your website do not lend themselves to addictive repeat visits the way blogs do imo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 9 January 2017 13:44 (seven years ago) link

never died, baby

j., Wednesday, 11 January 2017 03:28 (seven years ago) link

I've actually seriously been considering.. downloading an RSS reader

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 08:02 (seven years ago) link

But now a 12-person team of Redditors (led by Brandon Wink and Ron Vaisman) is taking the idea behind r/MemeEconomy and making a working, interactive meme stock market. They’re calling the trading tool NASDANQ, a cheeky financial system for an alternate universe adjacent to our own where meme is king.

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/10/14223264/meme-economy-reddit-stock-market

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 12:21 (seven years ago) link

All my money right now is tied up in crying_Jordan.jpg

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link

feel like its already peaked tho, i'd sell

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://txt.fyi/

El Tomboto, Thursday, 23 February 2017 23:07 (seven years ago) link

I can get behind that.

softie (silby), Thursday, 23 February 2017 23:45 (seven years ago) link

yeah, that's dope.

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Friday, 24 February 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link

what, if anything, happens when you click "publish"?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 24 February 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

Unicorns.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 February 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

isn't there already something like this for long tweets?

rip van wanko, Friday, 24 February 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link

Pope Francis
‏@Pontifex
Do not underestimate the value of example, for it is more powerful than a thousand words, a thousand “likes”, retweets or YouTube videos.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 February 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

how long until they split facebook into two sites (one for conservatives and one for liberals)?

the late great, Friday, 24 February 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link

About 5 minutes before it becomes Skynet and launches the nukes

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 25 February 2017 00:20 (seven years ago) link

pastebin-like levels of horror there before long

stet, Monday, 27 February 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

finally the perfect medium to test the theoretical effectiveness of my pickup lines

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 October 2017 09:45 (six years ago) link

?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=launch&utm_content=US_edu_npol_neng_m_v2

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Sunday, 29 October 2017 11:20 (six years ago) link

THE WEB BEGAN DYING IN 2014, HERE'S HOW

https://staltz.com/img/referral-to-top-publishers.png

https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html

cherry blossom, Monday, 30 October 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link


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