He thought he was supposed to be proper British dude since he met the guy in the guise of being proper British people with his wife and the dude's wife! I think he's not good at navigating the different spheres.
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it was pretty obvious it was because Jaguar Guy's wife took it to Lane's wife. Be seen to do something, rather than necessarily do something.
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
"chewing gum on his pubis"
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
lane knows how to partyhttp://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzd5njWk3h1qkpccwo1_500.gif
― mizzell, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
best lane line - “I’ve heard men talk with dark permanence of those years.”
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
his astute britishisms kill me
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
Difference I think is that Lane partied with Don and at the playboy club on his own time, but I think he sees taking a client to a brothel as beyond the pale.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
slocki, do you mean to imply that lane kissed joan in part b/c his manliness had been challenged?
I don't think anyone needs a reason to want to kiss Joan.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
like i said upthread, they'd hinted at it (Lane wanny smoochy Joan) before - but what i think put him over the top was the adrenaline rush of getting into a fight (and winning).
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
so who was Lane with at the pub watching the World Cup? his wife who he's semi-separated from? (or not separated from?) I feel like I forgot a plot turn somewhere, I thought she moved back to London.
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
Dad beats Lane/tells him to get his affairs in order --> Lane brought his family over from England
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
at the pub Lane was with his wife and Mr. and Mrs. Jaguar
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Lane wanted to go to the park and thought hanging with other expats was dweeby, but then really got into the footy and tried to parlay it into a business deal.
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
dunno how much of Lane's behavior at the pub was genuine tbh
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i thought it was pretty clear that he was putting on the expected show
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
laughed a lot at this episode. made me remember why i like this show.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
Lane's Playboy exploits were while the wife was back in blighty.
― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
the show is flirting with total farce this season, though getting away with it so far. i know there have been silly moments before but lane fighting pete was into utter ridicule.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
damn i forgot about lane's dad pwning him
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's safe to say Lane is probably the partner most intimately acquainted with physical violence
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
well a couple of them actually fought in various wars
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
and then there's Don/Dick's childhood.
― Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
He was drunk and England had just won the World Cup, that was enough to shake him out of usual grouchy reservedness around his wife's friends.
Pretty much everything Laine did felt pitch-perfect for the character for me. Whatever he did with Don last season it was on their own time and didn't lose the agency a massive car account in the process.
(xpost - come on it's clearly Roger who's been in the most actual physical fights)
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
Roger talks a lot but I suspect it's all talk. (see: mugging)
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
dude is a playboy through and through
it's clear he got treated like shit, I don't recall any physical abuse tho.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
Duck vs. Don Draper was a fun fight
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
and Don is quite clearly not a fighter - drunk Duck whooped his ass.
xp
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
do u remember when don got blown up in korea
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
p sure that's an intimate acquaintance with violence!
yeah but w getting blown up tho
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
not punching a dude
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
;)
N. Korea punched him in the face iirc
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah I propose that avoiding getting hit by artillery and knocking a man on the ground with your fists are entirely different skills
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno if anybody else agrees but I was getting the impression they were doing some heavy foreshadowing with Pete heading toward some kind of breakdown: the Whitman references, being asked to bring his gun to the house (reminding us that he has it for the second or maybe third time this season), being belittled and humilated repeatedly ... I have a habit of reading too much into TV shows, but this seemed like the writers are setting up 'this guy will snap violently'. He seems incapable of enjoying what he does have, and is desperate for some kind of approval and acceptance which he sees others having but not him.
Is there anybody specific Cosgrove is meant to be? Or just as 'author who started out in advertising' a la Pynchon/DeLillo/Heller?
― Brakhage, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
it's clear he got treated like shit, I don't recall any physical abuse tho
he's mentioning that his father used to beat the crap out of him.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
pretty confident the writers aren't trying to draw any specific parallels with any of the characters (otoh I had no idea Pynchon, DeLillo, and Heller all started in advertising). I did wonder if his nom de plume was ever actually used but it doesn't look like it.
The Whitman/gun/frustrated Pete stuff def felt like foreshadowing to me but who knows.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
ah right - that came up in reference to Sally, or something, I think? forgot about that.
could be foreshadowing something for two seasons from now tbh
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
pynchon didn't work in advertising. he was a technical writer for boeing.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
think u mean yoyodyne
― raw feel vegan (silby), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
can we stop misspelling Lane's name now plz
― mh, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, seeing a lot of "laine" and even some "layne"
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall)
That and Joan tenderly brushing the hair from his face. Totally believable. I have platonic female friends who I occasionally have the urge to kiss.
A very funny episode. I would be all up for MM becoming a knockabout comedy with a deathmatch between two of the cast at the climax of each episode. They could do a spin-off Tekken-style Mad Men beat em up.
Also, in the previous ep I was kind of hoping that Don's fever dream would turn out to be real, and the rest of the season would revolve around him covering up a murder.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
me too (re: don's dream)
― yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
yes me too.
― jed_, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
WOW. incredible episode!
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
"england won the world cup!""cup of what?"
i love how lane just cannot maneuver around jaguar guy's conversation. "i was in the war, it was awful." "i'm so sorry.." "no, those were the best years of my life, really." i think the jaguar guy was just fucking with them.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link