that's the kind of shit that not many TV shows would think to pull off BTW. i think most shows would go for a slow-mo flashback. more sophisticated shows might have a brief flash frame or something.
xpost
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
"You're Not Happy"
Dow Chemical
don wasn't pitching dow a proposed campaign. he was pitching SCDP in opposition to the presumed taken-for-granted indifference of dow's current ad agency. if it works in the show's fictional universe, then it was a good line. if not, then not.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
another note: this show has been absolutely merciless to Jaguar. I'm sure they feel "no such thing as bad press" about the exposure but lol the starter/suicide gag was just brutal... not only was the car used as a symbol of his oppressive frustration, but it couldn't even deliver the promise of death's release due to its built-in inadequacy
I understand what Don was doing, it was not an ad campaign for Dow. It was nominally an ad for SCDP, I suppose.
xp
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
kind of wish glenn had shut up in the elevator though, that was a bit, how do you say?... on the nose.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
All the on the noseness this season coming from teenagers saying sage things to grown men for no apparent reason
― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
Glen is 14. Subtlety is not his strength yet.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
magic pixie dream glen
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
um manic
I just remembered that Don's brother also hanged himself after Don tried to wash his hands of him.
Sepinwall pointed out the similarities of Don's physical reaction:http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.hitfix.com/assets/1400/mad-men-don-hanging.jpg
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
pretty weird that on sky in the uk they had a jaguar ad on the first break.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
ha, glen comes across to me as just a normal maybe slightly dumb socially awkward outcast teenager, any sagacity in anything he said would be purely incidental.
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
Glen seems normal now. The "creepy" tag is just a holdover from when he was charming Betty back in Ossining.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
Give it a week, let's see if he's creepin on Megan..
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
Does anyone really think the selling point of Don Draper was ever "he has the best ideas"?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
he's randy-an
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
well he was, dunno if he really is now
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
he still bones on the reg, just with one person in a fit of rage
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Wouldn't the Randian thing be, Don's the job creator, Peggy, et al, are just feeding off the juices of his awesome job creation opportunities (ie. Dow).
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't they both survive the bombardment, and then Dick lit a cigarette that caused an explosion that killed the Real Don Draper? Or did I just imagine that?(...)i think you're thinking of a cartoon.
(...)
i think you're thinking of a cartoon.
Hah, I've never made the connection before but the whole storyline kind of owes a debt to
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6GTp0GT5w6gBJS-aN5eQieXeD95ZpaR89qTKiMAhckNBaBfWJ
― sktsh, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
o ya. series finale starring dick whitman AS armin tamzarian.
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
this randian discussion is really a red herring.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
RED
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
shit, blew my cover.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
glen is weiner's son, right? he is good and effective in the part but I can't tell if his stilted line reading is meant to be part of the character or just, you know, really bad acting.
― akm, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
also lol moustache
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 04:18 (eleven years ago) link
wonder if that's makeup or if MW told his child he had to cultivate a puberty 'stache for a month
― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
haa oh god
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/don-draper-libertarianisms-favorite-ad-man/2012/06/06/gJQAplXoIV_blog.html
right wing think tankers play dress up
― goole, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
The free-marketeers at the dinner saw themselves as the natural compatriots of Don Draper—the “debonair, hard-driving, sometimes ruthless” ad man, in the words of Loren Smith, the federal judge who MC-ed the program in a “Guys and Dolls”-style fedora and gray pinstriped suit. But it’s not clear whether Draper himself would have agreed.
― goole, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
they've kind of missed the point i think
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
The advertisements of Draper’s 1960s “were offering the good life, products that allowed us to be healthier, wealthier,”
you know, like Lucky Strike cigarettes and napalm
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
tbf the shittiness of the jaguar did prolong lane's life for a short period.
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
(i re-watched this episode, the first time around i was feeling a vague nausea throughout cuz i thought lane was for it, this time it was even worse cuz i KNEW he was. also jared harris was brilliant.)
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
Harris needs an Emmy for this one, or Signal 30:
― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
No way, that Emmy is Giancarlo Esposito's.
― Björk lied (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
oscillating between twenty different emotions trying to find the one that will WORK in the firing scene was amazing.
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
that piece goole posted to is off the charts O_o
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
kind of on a reagan-likes-springsteen wavelength isn't it
― goole, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
it just reeks of entitlement... like people are beholden to buying products NO MATTER WHAT.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
A college professor of mine had a 1968 XKE, and told me about how he once defiantly stormed out of a faculty meeting only for his Jag to hilariously not start. As soon as Lane connected the hose I thought, yep, not gonna start.
Plus, didn't Roger have some line about how they never start in the previous episode?
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
that's been the whole pitch! like a beautiful woman (and just as unreliable).
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
haha, yeah. "It comes with a toolkit the size of a typewriter!"
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
don teaching glen to drive - in addition to being adorable, obv - reminded me of when we first met glen, at sally's bday party. he showed up with a newly widowed helen bishop, who then got hit on by some neighborhood guy creepily offering his services as an occasional faux-father figure for glen.
sally's woman troubles -> her needing a mother figure, ie betty, sort of parallels glen getting picked on in boarding school and feeling existential anguish -> but it's all okay when don teaches him to drive and has some good father-son time.
― phantompenguin, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
that was Cooper. "They're lemons! They never start."
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
I never knew about old Jaguars and the reputation for not starting until I watched an episode of Top Gear a few months ago where they paid tribute to the original XKE.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
didn't someone straight-up call it a "shitty car" in this last episode?
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
High-Five to Amy Sherman-Palladino
― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
Considering race in the show ("'Roots' for White People"):
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2012/06/6007279/very-white-poetry-mad-men
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 June 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
meh
― "Holy crap," I mutter, as he gently taps my area (silby), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
my biggest take-away from that article is that every NY film blogger hangs out together.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 8 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
go 'round to Uhlich's for Mad Men, then hit up the Grassroots Tavern afterwards