What do you think was going on in Don's mind when he watched Megan's reel?
I don't know, I thought the reel was actually good, and that Don realized so.
That was what I thought too, Don is watching her and smiling but my wife felt there was a point where you could see a sad look cross her face and Don notices it and stops smiling. And at that point decides he has to do this for her.
I didn't catch that myself (and haven't re-watched) but it seems plausible.
― dmr, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's similar to how I read it - Don being sentimental, for the most part
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
well, he's giving her a fair shot – he's investing time (albeit minutely) in her aspirations. irrespective of an emotional component, he' s taking her seriously.
― indian rope trick (remy bean), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
i don't know what to make of that scene. she's quite a beauty tho. her reel was great!
my impression was more melancholy, it looked like don knew something was basically wrong
― goole, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
At one point, he testified, Sandusky chased him in a car while he was on foot, demanding that the boy spend more time with him.
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
lol wrong thread
― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
don would know that's basically wrong
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
I missed that scene
― dmr, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Favorite scene in the whole series.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
there was a point where you could see a sad look cross her face and Don notices it and stops smiling
I picked up on that, but didn't realize at the time exactly why Don had stopped smiling.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
megan had success at advertising, was then celebrated by coworkers, but didn't care for it. then megan's dad tells her that her idea of success, or what she is/should be striving for, is all wrong. and then finally megan hangs out with a bunch of struggling actresses, and then herself becomes so desperate to succeed that she settles on a path that seems to defeat the original point of striking back out into acting in the first place.
basically, megan's never known what she wants. but at least earlier in the season her intentions seemed noble.
― phantompenguin, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
Jaguar VPs on the season: http://gawker.com/5915534/how-it-feels-to-watch-mad-men-total-your-car-company
― I DIED, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
Wallowing in filth and all varieties of social brutality and tragic failure and you polish it off with a musical reference to the Woody Allen Casino Royale and end the entire fucked up season with You Only Live Twice. I could not ask for a better show. Doctor Who better roll up looking fucking sharp.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
becomes so desperate to succeed that she settles on a path that seems to defeat the original point of striking back out into acting in the first place
maybe that's one reason don's feelings are hurt ... if her problem isn't with advertising per se then she wasn't "quitting advertising" it was "quitting working with Don"
but then she asks him for help so her career is just as wrapped up in his influent so I dunno
― dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
influence
― dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
was a little surprised how she f'd over her friend without so much as a second thought.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 05:35 (eleven years ago) link
After watching the ep again I see the ending differently. Don tells Peggy at the movies that when you help someone they succeed and move on. I thought Don was disappointed with Megan and falling out of love with her, but now I see him afraid of losing her to her career.
― *tera, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 05:59 (eleven years ago) link
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yeah no kidding. tho i guess you did see all the second thoughts.
― goole, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
Her friend's accent was weird, was it also French Canadian?
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
a bit of googling tells me that actress is Swedish. Just looking around various comments sections, seems like loads of people thought her and the girl who came on to Don in the bar were the same person o_0
― Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
I initially thought that.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
I did too.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
it'd be a pretty massive coincidence guys
― Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
that didn't even occur to me
it did seem sort of weird to me that Megan jumped over her friend for the part, it made me think I'd misunderstood their initial conversation or something. We've never seen Megan deliberately take advantage of anyone before.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
it's a meg eat meg world
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
meg or be megged
the girl kinda looked like the other girl. not a big deal.
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
all the commenters are like "yeah, she was out for REVENGE". I just think it's funny
― Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
kinda wonder if this last episode is supposed to be evidence of a kind of Don-destroys/corrupts-Megan arc - he's been complicit in making her as petty, deluded, and unhappy as all the other people around him
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
whereas before she was an innocent flower of optimism etc
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
Her parents bear as much responsibility for that as Don does, imo.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
she was really mean to her mother, so i sort of thought her mother's response was fair enough, and also very funny.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Kinda disappointed nobody jumped on shakey's C&P error up there utility-data style!
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
Why are you guys making Megan out to be a victim at Don's and her Mother's hands?
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
well her mother treats her like shit. Don doesn't victimize her, he just gives her everything she wants (which is not necessarily good for her)
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
Her parents know her, and I feel like her mother treats her squarely though maybe a little harsh, but who's parents aren't this way? Her Mom speaks in truth bombs!
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
my mom doesn't say horrible things like "at least my life is more than my children" TO HER CHILDREN, while they're crying on a bed
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
I've got to blame Megan's parents for effing her up. First her dad with all the "What are you doing in advertising?" like the episode before she quits her job, then her mom with "Some people have the temperament, blah blah" before she sells out her artsy dreams. Don seems to be the most reasonable, obviously emotionally invested but at the same time trying to support whatever she wants to do. Maybe he's the most adult out of all of them. At least at this point.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
which basically just signals "your emotional needs annoy me"
xp
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
You really have to give her dad a lot of credit for drilling commie anti-corporate idealism into her head, pretty much directly leading to her quitting her job.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
remember that in the middle of megan's tantrum she basically just called her mother a failure. I think her character is very well written -- with a knack for lashing out in really mean-spirited ways.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
Interesting interview with Weiner.
― I found him in a Bon Ton ad (Nicole), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
ha he says "on the nose" in there
― goole, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
great interview. his comments on Don watching Megan's reel are illuminating
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
that is a good interview. also interesting that he sees Ginsberg as representing "nihilism, random violence, the rise of subversion in the marketplace".
― dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
uh I think he just meant the latter re: Ginsberg
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
his comments on Don watching Megan's reel are illuminating
I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but I didn't notice any mention of this...?
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
weiner talks about it in the slate interview linked at the top of the article
― rayuela, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
Don is not a modern person. I don't think he ever had a perception of the fact that this woman — even though he loved her for her youth and independence, and loves her for that, and that's what we see when we see him watching that film is how much he loves her — he never perceived that she would separate herself from him.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, thx.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link