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"no, no, you don't understand, Monkey Jizz is just the name of the cryptocurrency I invested our life savings in!"

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:08 (two years ago) link

In New York we always go big, so I’m going to take my first THREE paychecks in Bitcoin when I become mayor. NYC is going to be the center of the cryptocurrency industry and other fast-growing, innovative industries! Just wait!

— Eric Adams (@ericadamsfornyc) November 4, 2021

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:14 (two years ago) link

i'm sure the NY city government payroll office will be more than happy to accommodate

davey, Thursday, 4 November 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/16/crypto-mining-oil-industry-waste-climate-crisis

n January of 2019, Chase Lochmiller and Cully Cavness, recently reunited prep school pals from Denver, drove out to the snow-covered plains of Wyoming to bring a piece of tech culture to the American heartland. Trembling in -20F (-29C) temperatures, they wired up a prototype of their brainchild: a machine that harnesses the “waste gas” from oil rigs to power mining for cryptocurrency.

Cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin, the most-popular decentralized digital currency, have a notoriously large carbon footprint (bitcoin mining alone consumes about half as much electricity in a year as all of the UK). So to leverage a cheap source of energy to run their bitcoin mining operations, Lochmiller and Cavness found themselves partnering with oil companies to repurpose a byproduct, primarily methane, that’s typically vented or burnt off in flares.

“We flipped the switch and saw all the bitcoin mining servers light up green, and you could see the flare physically shrink a little bit,” said Lochmiller, a self-described “city kid” who had never before set foot in an oilfield.

“It was kind of a Frankenstein moment, like ‘Oh my god, it’s alive!’”

Their creation is part of a niche wave of tech startups that are now eyeing the oil and gas industry to help power the cryptocurrency boom. Lochmiller and Cavness, who started a bitcoin mining company called Crusoe Energy, see their fix as a marriage between two problems capable of “solving” one another: the wasting of gas flaring that contributes to the climate crisis, and the need for cheaper energy as crypto increases in popularity.

Climate experts, however, warn it’s a “false solution” so long as oil and gas production is allowed to continue. The world’s leading authority on climate science concludes that only a dramatic reduction in greenhouse gas emissions will help avert a climate calamity; merely finding alternate uses for “waste gas” doesn’t confront the dire need to curb fossil fuel consumption. If anything, researchers warn, oil companies may feel incentivized to drill even more.

“At the end of the day, they’re still burning natural gas,” said Arvind Ravikumar, a methane researcher at the University of Texas at Austin, who deemed flare mitigation and companies proposing similar technologies a “scam”.

Lochmiller and Cavness, however, say their work helps the industry produce oil in as clean a way as possible, buying time, or “extending the runway” for the energy transition.

Their company has attracted high-profile investors, including Bain and Winklevoss Capital, raking in $125m for their second round of fundraising in April. They plan to roll out 100 bitcoin mining data centers by early 2022, up from the 65 units already in place.

Crusoe has trademarked its solution as “digital flare mitigation”. They install fleets of data centers that hum in shipping container-like structures next to remote oil rigs. Oil producers are then paid for the waste gas they otherwise wouldn’t use because it’s cheaper to burn than to pay to transport to market. In return, Crusoe can use the byproduct to power energy-intensive computing operations on-site.

The data centers burn through enormous amounts of energy because there’s no centralized “bank” that holds cryptocurrency. Instead, new coins are created by solving complex equations that require heavy computing power to authenticate. The currency is then tracked on a decentralized ledger, known as the blockchain, which is also resource-intensive to maintain.

The new technology comes amid a “great mining migration” that’s currently underway in the United States after China banned crypto mining in September. And with renewed global focus on cutting the highly-potent greenhouse gas, methane, which is the primary “waste gas” in flaring, the model is particularly in vogue.

Oil-friendly regulators, elected officials, industry groups and financial services giants have been taking note. Commissioner Jim Wright of the Texas Railroad Commission, the state agency charged with regulating oil and gas, told the Guardian that modular mitigation setups like Crusoe’s are “most appealing”. Texas senator Ted Cruz is also a fan.

Meanwhile, North Dakota lawmakers on both sides of the aisle passed a law this year making oil producers eligible for a tax credit if they employ onsite flare mitigation. Crusoe, which is based in Williston, North Dakota – the heart of the Bakken shale – worked closely with legislators to pass the bill.

According to Paasha Mahdavi, a political science professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara, who co-authored a 2020 paper on methane mitigation measures, new technologies that stop flaring at the source do seem like they would reduce emissions.

But in practice, he said, projects designed to capture otherwise flared or vented gas have resulted in an overall increase in gas production. After all, they create a new source of demand.

“It’s like if you had a leaky gasoline pipeline and, instead of fixing the problem, you plugged in a Humvee next to the leak and left the engine on in perpetuity with the A/C on full blast,” Mahdavi said.

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

haha, i have to stop reading. young people are the future! young people and technology will save us! let me check in on those young people

avness, the chief executive of Crusoe Energy who goes by “Electron Cowboy” on Twitter, grew up envisioning himself jumping on the family bandwagon. He would get an internship with Shell, and follow in the footsteps of his father and grandfather to carve out a career in the oil and gas industry.

But then Cavness landed at Middlebury College, a prestigious liberal arts school in Vermont with a reputation as the alma mater of global climate campaign, 350.org founders, and home of the university fossil fuel divestment movement.

“Climate was the whole conversation,” Cavness said, noting that he felt pressure to downplay his oil and gas roots.

After going down the climate rabbit hole at Middlebury, and spending a year after graduation studying the “morality of energy”, Cavness’ job was troubling his conscience. He’d been losing sleep thinking about the unfathomable amount of gas the industry was wasting. According to the International Energy Agency (IEA) in 2020, 142bn cubic metres of gas was flared – the energy equivalent of providing electricity to 49m homes.

When Cavness reunited with Lochmiller in 2018 during an 18-hour hiking trip in the Rocky Mountains, they hatched a plan: Lochmiller, an MIT graduate based in San Francisco, had recently left a position as a partner at a cryptocurrency investment firm, while Cavness was with a separate firm that invested in oil and gas. Together, they would combine their worlds of bitcoin and big oil.

FUCK dude. FUCK.

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

the influence of bill mckibben and a million other earnest idealistic environmentalists managed to bend this rich kid and his rich friend toward...CRYPTO OIL TECH

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

imagine driving a car and pushing it as hard as it will go, as fast as it can go, starting at the top of a hill and careening down the smooth blacktop, toward Cavness and his dipshit rich crypto friend, and then when you close you just roll down the window and *SLAP* their faces *SO FUCKING HARD* as your drive past

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

WHAMMO! Fuck, kid! fuck!

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

the trolley problem, but make it fun

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 December 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

hey kid, way to convert billions of cubit meters of gas into a couple digits in a distributed database, really admirable achievement

davey, Saturday, 18 December 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link

or cubic, either way, wow, amazing

davey, Saturday, 18 December 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link

lol

calstars, Saturday, 18 December 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This is fucking wild. Norton "Antivirus" now sneakily installs cryptomining software on your computer, and then SKIMS A COMMISSION. https://t.co/6s2otyCd78

— Cory Doctorow (@doctorow) January 4, 2022

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link

Good old deregulation. Don't hamper the good rich people from doing what comes naturally in a plainly responsible way.

Mark G, Thursday, 6 January 2022 10:06 (two years ago) link

Makes me so happy whenever I see the price of this bullshit fall

calstars, Thursday, 6 January 2022 14:30 (two years ago) link

Makes them happy too, buy the dip

Karl Malone, Thursday, 6 January 2022 15:28 (two years ago) link

Money printer no go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, only go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 6 January 2022 15:38 (two years ago) link

gulag winters go brrrrrrrr

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link

Meanwhile:

Almost a fifth of Bitcoin's hashrate (essentially mining and verifying transactions) is/was in Kazakhstan, where there are now power and internet outages, fuel shortages, and street protests. pic.twitter.com/i7eFdzIzZr

— JacobSilverman.shill (@SilvermanJacob) January 6, 2022

... (Eazy), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link

“Bitcoin fell below $43,000 on Thursday, “
Yeahhhhhhhhh… fsck this sh1t

calstars, Saturday, 8 January 2022 23:43 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkldiyDNmvs

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/02/08/bitfinex-hack-bitcoin-arrests/

White comedy rapper arrested with $3.6bn in stolen Bitcoin was always going to happen at some point, I guess.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 17:29 (two years ago) link

"Comedy" rapper.

nickn, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link

you come for the queen (Rebecca Black) you best not miss

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 February 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link

Most music careers are elaborate money laundering operations

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link

too bad, she reminds me of Wet Leg

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 17:40 (two years ago) link

You went to post
And you got the S B

Bixby in a Samsung I know it's Siri-esque (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 02:17 (two years ago) link

Stealing bitcoin shouldn't be illegal.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 03:08 (two years ago) link

^ yeah, main beneficiaries of this bust are going to be... even bigger crooks lol

Allegra do Povo (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 09:35 (two years ago) link

the real "boss bitch" move would be to write the only copy of the private key on a piece of paper and threaten to eat it during the trial

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link

her trial would be a great place to begin the gamification of the legal system

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

how bout that apecoin!

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link

Yeah, I'm into crypto. Cryptobranchus alleganiensis! More commonly known as the hellbender, this aquatic giant salamander can be found in parts of the eastern and central United States. Some may measure up to 30 inches long! Photo by Ryan Hagerty/USFWS. pic.twitter.com/YtroqhMBvG

— U.S. Fish and Wildlife (@USFWS) March 21, 2022

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:04 (two years ago) link

Have fun staying poor

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 23 March 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

tfw the funniest tweets are like borderline gibberish and yet so sweet within: "unicorn nodes defi project rug pulls hours after launch"

Unicorn Nodes defi project rug pulls hours after launch

April 14, 2022https://t.co/HkAN5amdTG pic.twitter.com/Zq5GLU2aq8

— web3 is going just great (@web3isgreat) April 15, 2022

mark s, Friday, 15 April 2022 12:28 (two years ago) link

Unicorn nodes and rug pulls, a children’s tale

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 15 April 2022 15:33 (two years ago) link

Hellbender is a good word

| (Latham Green), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 12:04 (two years ago) link

down about $4000 in the last 24 hours, cool currency you got there

frogbs, Monday, 9 May 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

I have .00001 or something left in Coinbase from the darknet market days and it bounces between $80 and $120 in value when I think to check in. I always feel like I should hold on to it at this point and hope BTC are worth a billion bucks one day rather than cash out for two tickets to a baseball game and four beers.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 9 May 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/06/03/crypto-skeptics-growing/

first, if "crypto skeptics" and "crypto catastrophists", terms that this article uses thousands of times, are the primary terms of address for people fighting against crypto, then it's already over. once again, the fools will have won.

secondly,

Even the most dire crypto catastrophists say it is unlikely, at least at the moment, that a crash would bring much contagion to the broader economy. The S&P 500 has a market cap of $40 trillion, dwarfing crypto’s $1 trillion. But they say that doesn’t mean Americans shouldn’t be on guard for such spillover.

“The biggest fear is if it does get into the mainstream economy via retirement funds, it could start bringing other things in the system down with it, like with Fidelity,” said Gerard, noting that company’s plan likely to go into effect later this year that would allow participants to allocate as much as 20 percent of their 401(k) to crypto. “That’s why we have to stop it now.”

if fucking crypto causes a recession i will rip my fucking eyeballs out for good

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

401Ks, for all the money they have made people, also had the effect of getting hundreds of millions of people deeply embedded into american capitalism, depending on the continuing, never-ending exponential success for corporations, across our lifetimes and as far into the future as we can plan on.

jfc if you start getting a bunch of fools dumping their retirement accounts into fuuuuckin crypto? it's just all too plausible, you can see them do it already. and the only people who could possibly do something about this are all 134 years old

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/ny-passes-us-first-moratorium-on-reviving-fossil-fuel-plants-to-mine-crypto/

good to see some progress made on trying to contain the giant, completely unnecessary environmental disaster that cryptofucks decided to unleash on humanity, at the exact worse time, for no reason other than something about petrodollars and freedom.

unfortunately, it's only at a state level, and you know you can count on GOP-led statehouses across the country to look the other way on anything that has to do with climate change

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 June 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

proof of stake is definitely just around the corner, though, and it will be easy to implement that now that all the parasitic 2nd and 3rd order mining operations, from the equipment to the installation to the land to the assets to the loans to whatever, are knee deep in the rising shitjuice

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 4 June 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

June was a horrible month for me, and this has the been the worst year of my life. sorry for all the terrible posting, everywhere, on everything, and being intolerable in general.

some good news maybe. i very much hope that i have been wrong on proof of stake and that it will actually happen and make a difference. some news on that:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/the-merge-the-biggest-change-in-ethereum-history-explained/

In a few weeks, Ethereum is slated to undergo the most significant change in its seven-year history. Until now, the Ethereum blockchain has been secured using a method called "proof-of-work," which consumes more electricity than the entire nation of Belgium. Next month's switch to a new method called "proof-of-stake" is expected to cut Ethereum's energy consumption by a factor of 1,000.

supposedly to happen in mid-September.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 19 August 2022 21:36 (one year ago) link

Always interested in hearing about all the great improvements that will be happening Real Soon Now. No doubt the rollout into their distributed system will be flawless.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 19 August 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

I guess this is the only ILE cryptocurrency thread?

o. nate, Thursday, 10 November 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

there's another, but i got a poxy fule error when I try to link it?

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 10 November 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

it's on the front page but uses a cent and dollar sign for the C and S

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 10 November 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

I guess it's just as well no one around here cares. It's hard to avoid talk of FTX and SBF over on the bird site.

o. nate, Thursday, 10 November 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link

Yeah I was trying to find a good place to post about FTX - I guess this will do?
The FTX collapse is absolutely insane and astounding (although it's sad that lots of people got duped.)
Crypto skeptic Molly White's (creator of "Web3 Is Going Just Great") writeups are excellent - here's part 3 of her FTX coverage: https://newsletter.mollywhite.net/p/the-ftx-collapse-the-latest-revelations

Some highlights from it:
* The spreadsheet included an entry for “Hidden, poorly internally labled (sic) ‘fiat@’ account: -8 billion”. Apparently SBF wishes for us to believe that he somehow just misplaced an account representing eight billion dollars in liabilities. SBF also included an attempt at remorse in the balance sheet (as one does): “There were many things I wish I could do differently than I did…”

(I'm reminded of the Robin Williams joke about putting $50,000 on your tax form for "snacks".)

* The clean-up guy (who oversaw Enron's bankruptcy) John J. Ray III said: "Never in my career have I seen such a complete failure of corporate controls and such a complete absence of trustworthy financial information as occurred here. From compromised systems integrity and faulty regulatory oversight abroad, to the concentration of control in the hands of a very small group of inexperienced, unsophisticated and potentially compromised individuals, this situation is unprecedented."

* The Debtors do not have an accounting department and outsource this function.

ernestp, Saturday, 19 November 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link


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