indefensible: john gruber

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I remember being young and thinking that it'd be cool to be in a position where people would send me unreleased products to review. Then I got old and realized that beta testing other people's shit is horrible.

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

I love Tweetbot and iOs for the simplicity and beautifulness of the triple-tap gesture.

I wonder if Gruber is beta testing the version with quadruple-taps.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

lol

I have two twitter apps on iPhone and I've been swapping between them with no clear fave. tweetbot 2.0 is kinda nice, though

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

i caved and got tweetbot when it went on sale and i like it so much more than any other one i've used, it's just like... enjoyable

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

i just wish the interface was more elegant

stet, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

twittelator neue is pretty but is still a lil buggy and feature incomplete

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

not empathetic enough

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

"twittelator neue"

markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

lol

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

can't believe you guys aren't using twilvetica!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

nm it's not out yet

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of fonts: http://www.marco.org/2012/01/13/helvetica-kettle

markers, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

shows disturbing signs of self awareness

lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

How did I miss Gruber posting this on his blog?

Oh, he didn't.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

Hear that noise? That’s Violet Blue backpedalling…

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

oh jesus

The overreacting/woman-protection racket going on from Gruber's corner, masquerading as being in-touch with feminist concerns or being somehow more sympathetic, is gross. Someone found the name of a woman at the company and he ran with it, which is... what, all women are the same and you found the name of the one woman who worked for them, no way are there two of them?

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

There are, after all, too many millions of different models of woman. The development team should take a leaf out of Apple's book and slim down the product line offering to perhaps only two or three designs, each to fulfill the varying functions as needed by the user. This approach could soon see a rapid change in the market, with the adoption rate of women (in my suggested wifi, 8gb and 16gb variations) bringing women to the forefront of the post-PC world.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

on the contrary, that woman is a beacon, a yardstick for all other women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.70decibels.com/thepenaddict/

markers, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

defensible in concept, jus guys bein nerdy baout pens

tinker tailor soldier sb (silby), Friday, 10 February 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link

Almost before you could stop throwing up in your mouth at the idea of Michael Arrington accusing a Times journalist of being less than noble, Arrington’s partner at CrunchFund, MG Siegler, weighed in with his own attack in which he basically said Bilton is a nice guy who was either too lazy or too busy to do a good job. From this Siegler leaps off into a long diatribe about how most tech reporting is utter bullshit written by idiots who are all in a hurry to chase page views.

So: Path comes under fire, and straight away, the paid hit men – Arrington and his sidekick, Matty the Angry Chihuahua — spring into action to smear Bilton and try to discredit him.

I’ll give them this much. They’re good at what they do. Siegler especially is a nasty little ankle-biter who has developed some level of expertise in launching ad hominem attacks. He did one on me a while back. Then he did one on Josh Topolsky at The Verge.

Now it’s Nick Bilton’s turn.

http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2012/02/13/hit-men-click-whores-and-paid-apologists-welcome-to-the-silicon-cesspool/

Great response here from the man who's not afraid to type the word 'bullshit':

Looks like someone woke up from his nap of the last three years and is hungry. Sadly, I don’t have much food for him. I’ll keep this as brief as possible — and I promise this will be the last thing I ever say about Dan Lyons, as he’s clearly done.

Feel free not to read. Or read Michael Arrington’s post on the matter. He takes a higher road than I’m about to. I’m just sick of Lyons’ bullshit.

http://parislemon.com/post/17587323277/bat-shit-crazy

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link

i have lost all ability to discern sarcasm in this thread. That wasn't a great response to me, just point-avoiding ad homs from a corrupt would-be hack.

stet, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:21 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely sarcasm.

Big fan of http://mgsieglermeme.tumblr.com, though.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeah anyone who defends siegler or arrington on this should be banned from ilx and thrown into the ocean

max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

But she’s not a very good writer in the pure sense of the word. Both she and Lyons rely on cutesy gimmicks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:55 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/nXhCV.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

m.g. siegler offering a beacon, a yardstick of good tech writing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link

#1 pet peeve: people who read 'on writing well' or some other chestnut and the only thing they take away is that all. of their sentences. must. be. very. short. that's. what good. writing. is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:57 (twelve years ago) link

Some WSJ claim chowder.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/zEOaD.png

Times when it's OK to alter your site template: Christmas, Valentine's Day, the death of a multinational CEO.

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

must have ignored her in favor of the ipad 2 for the last time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

how long did it take him to pick what shade of red to use?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/14/fla

"This is the biggest challenge facing Apple today."

has he actually written anything longer than glib link commentary? guess he's been busy with long form claim chowder : (

caek, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah anyone who defends siegler or arrington on this anything should be banned from ilx and thrown into the ocean

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Times when it's OK to alter your site template: Christmas, Valentine's Day, the death of a multinational CEO.

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

I, Too, Love Amy Jane

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

fuckin guy lovin his fuckin wife...

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if she checks the site everyday or maybe he had to send her a link

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

if she's anything like dh she's an rss/instapaper kinda lady. inbox zero. no time to type in urls

radiant silverfish (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

has he actually written anything longer than glib link commentary? guess he's been busy with long form claim chowder : (

Saving it all up to complain about NeXT not being given its due, it looks like!

carson dial, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

His wife's twitter account is many times more entertaining than his own.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link

You can get fired up that way, and see my criticism here as condemning Isaacson’s book as total shit, zero stars. That would be a mistake. Steve Jobs is not literature, but it is a good book, but alas with several holes and egregious errors.
Lacking various beacons and yardsticks also.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 08:01 (twelve years ago) link

um, that piece is probably the best thing he's written in a year or two.

caek, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:27 (twelve years ago) link

Except his whole premise of "Steve Jobs thought software is more important than hardware" is completely a total shit, zero stars Jobsian-style binary view.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

and "Apple is an experience company" made me boak, versus something like "Apple is a product company" which is the truth

stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

like, made me think of Apple iBalloon Rides With Your Fiancee

stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

Apple uses experiences to sell products, as any Mad Men watcher could tell you.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link

that's a diff thing from being an experience company, tho

stet, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

"apple is an experience company" is his turgid writing style, yes.

but i am a good-faith zinger, and that was a good piece.

caek, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:31 (twelve years ago) link


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