if you think the non-reporting journalism/nepotism/credulity fest/circle jerk that orbits around y combinator, hacker news and techcrunch should not be treated with basically utter contempt then i don't know what to tell you man
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
i assume dy is talking about that, not technology in general
hm
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah i doubt he's after the whole thing but still
i used to listen to this week in tech i know what im talking about
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link
don't get us wrong markers. i for one love your enthusiasm for this stuff, and i enjoy yr links!
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link
people shitting on tech just gets . . . something to me. i'm legitimately interest in this shit and spend plenty of time following it and i get that it's not cool or whatever but
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link
silicon valley is def often pretty gross and frivolous (and occasionally brilliant obvs) but i feel like the appropriate response is more casual distain rather than the gonzo outrage of valleywag which is kinda really buying into the whole thing too much
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
markers its cool but its also a lot of navel gazing
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
don't get us wrong markers. i for one love your enthusiasm for this stuff, and i enjoy yr links!― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:22 PM
― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:22 PM
hey thank you
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
it's not that it's not cool. i think the top tier stuff is legitimately very interesting, and sometimes even "cool". it's the hangers on, 90% of the journalists who cover this beat, and the armchair developer/typographer bloggers who are the problem.
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
i love technology and the internet and whatnot and think its legitimately important, but i dont think that at all contradicts the obvious observation that like techcrunch is a v stupid publication
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
true josh.valleywag (i.e. basically just sam biddle, right?) has really gone in at the deep end, but the stench had got so bit strong over the past year or two, and no one was saying anything (except the register, which is still the best, aside from its lack of boots on the ground in CA)
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
lol who is "josh". joe.
a friend of mine goes to stanford and was talking abt how she cant go work at the coffee shop w out overhearing people pitch their terrible startup ideas
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
i told her she needs to get a tumblr
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link
i dont think that at all contradicts the obvious observation that like techcrunch is a v stupid publication
i used to read it a lot more than i do now
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link
but, like, there's good stuff out there too. look at the verge. those people do wonderful shit. there's good reporting too, like some of jessica lessin's apple shit for the wsj. john siracusa's hypercritical posts abt apple. some of bloomberg businessweek's features.
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
i mostly just have in mind treating anything mg siegler does as 'news' tbh
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
also the weird cult that built up around jason kalikanis
he's not worth paying attention to and should be ignored
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
anyway......... destroy silicon valley
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
ya i like the verge, the weird thing is a lot of tech news is business reporting abt these companies and theyre generally ont that interesting as businesses, like ohh booble babble raised a b round of venture capital, cwapoole was acquired by cakemix in an acuhire, who could possibly give a shit, writing abt the actual product and technology is obvs a lot harder and often ends in embarrassing situations where clowns like scoble predict google glasses are gonna change the world
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:35 (ten years ago) link
the pinboard guy noted in a tweet that that shower photo will likely be the most important thing scoble ever does ;_;
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
it is so fn gross, like im not even joking it disgusts me
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/JVUuZZW.png
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
lol 'credited'
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link
― 乒乓, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― markers, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link
there's tons of garbage out there when it comes to tech writing, but when you follow the stuff for long enough it becomes increasingly easier to know whose shit is worth following and whose isn't
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
Time for a return of F'ed Company's dead pool
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
like, i can tell you that the only time you need to pay attention to jim dalrymple is when he does one of his "yep" or "nope" posts
because he'll end up being right 100% of the time
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea, i mean wth, literally w t h
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech― 乒乓, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:39 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― 乒乓, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:39 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah in that sense gruber's longevity (10 years?) as basically the top pundit in the game is pretty remarkable
i mean i get the feeling he's not playing to his strengths any more, but still, his impact is much more than just vestigal enormous readership
― caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea
what
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
markers, there's annoying tech sceptics and then there's this hideous scoble guy
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
some social degenerate in his cubicle thinking "maybe the reason people dont hang out with me is because they never know where i am, i know, ill make an app that broadcasts my location 24/7, then the ppl will come" -> 4 square -> millions of dollars in VC funding
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
yes that's exactly what happened
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
foursquare helps me so
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
foursquare isn't really that interesting to me
what is the utility of foursquare, why does that service exist, who is the mayor of ILX
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:27 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ya i agree and i mostly like what valleywag is doing but maybe just ease off the gas a little --josh
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
services similar to foursqure will def be really huge at some point, tho it prob wont be actual foursquare
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
i guess at some point it will become socially acceptable to go somewhere because u see a bunch of people u know 'checking in' there, its fucking creepy right now tho
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
bro theres a reason u didnt get the invite
recommendations of (and specials offered by) places that are like the ones you go to and that your friends go to, data collection, ned raggett
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
google appears to be pumping up its foursquareness btw
― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
idk abt checking in but just like the intersection of location and internet of things is gonna be a big deal
― lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
exactly, sometimes you have to see beyond the products to think more about capabilities of the shit that's out there. i've never used foursquare and have no interest in it and wouldn't care if it disappeared tomorrow.
― markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link
hey guys i saw you all on foursquare checking in here. hey wheres the drinks at. hey where are you all going. hey wait up
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link