indefensible: john gruber

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also the weird cult that built up around jason kalikanis

― 乒乓, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he's not worth paying attention to and should be ignored

― markers, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link

there's tons of garbage out there when it comes to tech writing, but when you follow the stuff for long enough it becomes increasingly easier to know whose shit is worth following and whose isn't

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link

Time for a return of F'ed Company's dead pool

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link

like, i can tell you that the only time you need to pay attention to jim dalrymple is when he does one of his "yep" or "nope" posts

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link

because he'll end up being right 100% of the time

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea, i mean wth, literally w t h

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

i guess this points to a larger phenomenon of how much shelf life some of these guys, like kalikanis, scoble, people who should have stopped being relevant 10 years ago, in the fast moving world of tech

― 乒乓, Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:39 AM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah in that sense gruber's longevity (10 years?) as basically the top pundit in the game is pretty remarkable

i mean i get the feeling he's not playing to his strengths any more, but still, his impact is much more than just vestigal enormous readership

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link

also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea

what

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link

markers, there's annoying tech sceptics and then there's this hideous scoble guy

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link

some social degenerate in his cubicle thinking "maybe the reason people dont hang out with me is because they never know where i am, i know, ill make an app that broadcasts my location 24/7, then the ppl will come" -> 4 square -> millions of dollars in VC funding

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link

yes that's exactly what happened

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link

also the navelgazing circlejerk of silicon valley is what led to people thinking that foursquare was a good idea

foursquare helps me so

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link

foursquare isn't really that interesting to me

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link

what is the utility of foursquare, why does that service exist, who is the mayor of ILX

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link

true josh.valleywag (i.e. basically just sam biddle, right?) has really gone in at the deep end, but the stench had got so bit strong over the past year or two, and no one was saying anything (except the register, which is still the best, aside from its lack of boots on the ground in CA)

― caek, Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:27 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya i agree and i mostly like what valleywag is doing but maybe just ease off the gas a little --josh

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link

services similar to foursqure will def be really huge at some point, tho it prob wont be actual foursquare

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link

i guess at some point it will become socially acceptable to go somewhere because u see a bunch of people u know 'checking in' there, its fucking creepy right now tho

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

bro theres a reason u didnt get the invite

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

what is the utility of foursquare, why does that service exist, who is the mayor of ILX

recommendations of (and specials offered by) places that are like the ones you go to and that your friends go to, data collection, ned raggett

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link

google appears to be pumping up its foursquareness btw

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

idk abt checking in but just like the intersection of location and internet of things is gonna be a big deal

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link

exactly, sometimes you have to see beyond the products to think more about capabilities of the shit that's out there. i've never used foursquare and have no interest in it and wouldn't care if it disappeared tomorrow.

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link

hey guys i saw you all on foursquare checking in here. hey wheres the drinks at. hey where are you all going. hey wait up

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link

乒乓 you know you get to choose what you check into and when, rite

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link

i dont get why foursquare has to be 'social'

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

rip paypal?

http://www.google.com/wallet/send-money/

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link

wish i had foursquare when i lived above a restaurant cause then i so wouldve been the mayor of that shit forever

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

it goes 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably your thing' xp to 乒乓

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

paypal counters by now accepting bitcoins

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:52 (ten years ago) link

it goes 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably your thing' xp to 乒乓

― umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

thats pretty obnoxious i have much better taste than my friends

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link

you can set it so it says 'your friend checks in here a lot so it's probably not your thing'

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link

aaaaaaaahhhh now i understand *installs foursquare on my iPhone 5*

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link

this is sort of random, but for example fucking livejournal was and is super easy to make fun of, but for the second half of my senior year of high school and my first year in college, it was actually a super profound service, because it let my friends and i write shit about our lives that only we'd see (via "friends only" posts), and it sort of enabled us to connect in a weird intimate way as a little group. that doesn't happen on facebook. that doesn't happen on tumblr. or at least not for me, not now. but for the time we were all on there it was something really neat, in retrospect.

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

not that foursquare enables anything useful, but maybe it does for someone.

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

it's not something i'm interested in using, personally

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

livejournal was cool i had a livejournal, in fact still do

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

lj was completely virtual tho, and anonymous (if u chose it), its the intersection of the virtual world and the real world that is gonna bring up some creepy and perhaps unexpectedly creepy situations and scenarios, a la foursquare

乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

facebook in its early days enabled some crazy shit

markers, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

how do i get linkedin to stop sending me emails?

caek, Thursday, 16 May 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

im gonna tape my phone to a drone and check in all over town

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 May 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link

not that foursquare enables anything useful, but maybe it does for someone.

― markers, Thursday, May 16, 2013 1:57 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I did the autojournal thing, so i use foursquare disconnected from all social media mainly to note in my journal when i go somewhere interesting.

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 16 May 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link

like, i can tell you that the only time you need to pay attention to jim dalrymple is when he does one of his "yep" or "nope" posts

I've never quite been able to put it into words, but I've so nearly posted so many times about how much I hate this guy. He's every bit as bad as grubes.

Those one word yeps come off as so fucking haughty. Like "I will deign to address your rumour, but you shall get naught but one word from me, for I am so very important and my word shall be the final one on the subject." Ugh.

(even more annoying b/c like markers said he's normally right, which builds even more of a weird cult of personality around this dude who is basically a lonely beard just thinking baout angus young)

sktsh, Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:08 (ten years ago) link

I am starting to merge all these jokers in my head into one guy w/suspenders frustrated with his suboptimal coffee experience.

The Verge is far and away the best of a terrible lot, but even then the writing isn't a patch on even Wired in its heyday.

stet, Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:13 (ten years ago) link

i just totally did something at a place and forgot to check in on foursquare

umair coque (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 16 May 2013 10:25 (ten years ago) link

eugh

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 16 May 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link

http://brooksreview.net/2013/05/fucking-dogs/

markers, Saturday, 18 May 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link

tbh I also don't like dogs, but I don't blog about it on a blog people have to pay for

resulting paste of mashed cheez poops (silby), Saturday, 18 May 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link

Gruber and his ilk's smug self-satisfaction and complete lack of self-awareness make me more guilty about using Apple products than basically anything else.

Also, I hope Ben Brooks gets mobbed by dogs everyday for the rest of his life.

avant-sarsgaard (litel), Saturday, 18 May 2013 08:46 (ten years ago) link

excited to see gruber cover the tax stuff with the diligence he covered foxconn

caek, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link


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