indefensible: john gruber

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can't wait for Marco's high-end speaker review detailing how awesome Phish sound on a $50k rig.

stet, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

lol he is so awful

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

would you guys rank them: gruber, then marco, then siracusa from worst to best? are there any writers who aren't part of their immediate circle that you would rank higher?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

I don't really consider Siracusa part of that armchair typographer crowd tbh.

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

from worst to best? the opposite tbh. siracusa, marco, grub. when gruber is on he's on imo.

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

haha armchair typographer

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

Siracusa >>>>>> (apart from shit Steve Jobs book review) >>> Grubes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marco >>>>> Trust & verify >>>>> Brooks

stet, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link

stet otm

0808ɹƃ (silby), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

when gruber is on he's on imo.

i agree with this, but he rarely is any more. he hasn't written two articles in a row that weren't embarrassingly bad or worse for like 6 years.

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

marco is basically valueless as a writer though, so year, stet otm.

caek, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

in this post he compares tumblr dude to steve jobs... twice http://www.marco.org/2013/05/20/one-person-product nice way to simultaneously pat yrself on the back for being involved w something so important and backhandedly call yr boss a sociopath - tumblr is a nice website and all but its not exactly an iphone

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link

i didn't get those same sinister messagings from that article, but i did from the one about phish.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link

Marco's writing is worthless, and so is The Magazine. The true believers in Tumblr are the same breed who jizzed on and on about MySpace until that platform got blown out of the water. I'm sure that soon, we'll be hearing about The Next Wordpress...oh wait, isn't that supposed to be SVBTLE or something?

Stet massively OTM.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link

http://www.marco.org/2013/05/30/coffee-storage

A reader asked via email:

How do you store your coffee?

I get this question a lot.

oh jesus

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the true horror comes when these guys link to something that has open comments, and then you see what their comments would be like if only they enabled them.

It's the one awesome think about their schticks that means we're spared page after page of "awesome post, you really hit the nail on the head with your writing as usual, Marco".

stet, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the true horror comes when these guys link to something that has open comments, and then you see what their comments would be like if only they enabled them.

ha otm

caek, Thursday, 30 May 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link

do you guys like jeanlouis gasees blog?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

i don't read it too often tbh

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

maybe i should

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

maybe that would BE a good thing

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

maybe i should write myself a NOTE for MONDAY to do so

markers, Friday, 31 May 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link

does he have RSS feed? If not, he doesn't exist

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Friday, 31 May 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link

He's made an app! http://www.macworld.com/article/2040883/meet-vesper-a-notes-app-with-an-all-star-development-team.html#tk.twt_jsnell

Making iOS software that doesn't sync is ... it's like making a phone where you can only call people in the same room. Or something.

stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

hmmmm just saw this

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

"Q Branch"
"Vesper"
"mediocrely"

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link

lol @ The Incomparable in screenshiot

steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link

Am I horrible in hoping some ill befalls this?

Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

No, because apps die a silent death and rarely get an obit.

There's nothing worse than people who think that we can design our way out of every user problem.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link

"yeah there are already a million apps out there who solve the note taking non-problem on apps, but there's not a UI good enough for our immaculate taste, so we had to design one ourselves. It's by us for us unless you all are willing to raise your standards."

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link

his obsession with james bond might be the dorkiest thing about him

diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

who's bought it?

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

who would?

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

the greatest thing about next week would be if Apple would grant a trial-basis for app downloads

most apps do not see engagement beyond 2 weeks. This would clean up the app store a lot.

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

i haven't bought it yet but i would and might

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

not that i'd necessarily use it regularly

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

should be a 99c app

diamonddave85, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link

should be a free evaluation and if it is a solution for me, I would buy it.

this idea that we have to spend a dollar to evaluate everything is stupid

now is not the time for motorboating (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

i would have grubes on my app team cause now people will buy it

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

lol definitely

wait until he links to it

markers, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

the one guy designs it i code it and grubes he links

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link

ppl let him beta test all kinds of helvetica-heavy shit that he links to

Operation Gypsy Dildo (silby), Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link

Gruber: Bond’s gadgets have always been at the intersection of utility and elegance. Serve a necessary purpose, reliably, and look good doing it. That’s as good a motto for a software company as any.

yes gruber, you are comparable to bond

fucking james bond

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

hoping it gets a feature that lets you wedgie gruber's underpants over his head

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link

I don't understand the hate for this dude but likewise don't understand how he can be the number one apple blogger.
What do you guys think about kottke.org? He seems like he's in a similar group of commenter dudes who also make fonts on the side.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

Gruber is sanctimonious. Kottke just likes linking to neat things and keeps the rest to himself, IME.

Millsner, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link

marco has posted about this, and now i am really not sure who i hate more

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link

http://www.marco.org/2013/06/06/vesper

in which he goes on and on about balls

the Quim of Bendigo (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

fucking srs

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

wow that is just an unbelievable blog post right there

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link

Loool at getting linked to by Marco as "resentful" for saying sync is critical when he, eh, says sync is critical. Balls.

stet, Thursday, 6 June 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link


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