indefensible: john gruber

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thats an autocorrect fail, he meant to say "i'm a nut,"

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:14 (ten years ago) link

jon "the nut" grubers krazy apple computer blog!!

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:16 (ten years ago) link

i nutted on this memo, or as we call it, "grubering"

mh, Thursday, 16 January 2014 02:19 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/6jSeRpH.jpg

markers, Thursday, 16 January 2014 03:04 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...

check out the site

markers, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

"site" rhymes with paul bucheit

markers, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

who is holding a gun itt

markers, Friday, 14 February 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

this story simply could not have been told w/o a lot of dots http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/02/24/thousand-nos-yes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 05:12 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Some Classic Claim Chowdhry ★
So much to choose from, but here’s a good one from 2009:

Investors should not think the upcoming version of iPhone 3 is going to be as successful as iPhone 2.0 because it will have solid competition from Palm Pre, developed by ex-Apple designer Jon Rubinstein.

Palm Pre has a superior operating system than iPhone. It runs on a better network — Sprint CDMA — versus iPhone which runs on GSM.

I mean, obviously, the original assertion was comical, but dragging up things in 2014 that someone said on the internet in 2009 is a deeply, deeply vindictive and fearful tactic often rooted in deep personal insecurity. If this guy was a co-worker I'd steer around him.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 20 March 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link

he's really mad about that new apple book huh

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link

seek out the 9to5 mac post about jobs throwing a pencil at eddy cue

markers, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 02:04 (ten years ago) link

how about u seek it out and link it here

socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 03:07 (ten years ago) link

throw a pencil at eddy cue yrself, carpe diem

lag∞n, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 17:26 (ten years ago) link

http://twitter.com/pschiller/status/447769180977504256

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:32 (ten years ago) link

Damn, sick comeback!!

, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link

in general it seems like the book isn't worth it. wish she'd distilled the new info into a solid article or something though.

check out yesterday's wsj piece about the original iphone. i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:41 (ten years ago) link

click the link at the end of this article http://www.loopinsight.com/2014/03/25/apple-engineer-recalls-the-iphones-birth/

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:42 (ten years ago) link

markers, you're sounding disturbingly like one of those dudes who posts to fan sites for anime or w/e who think somebody else is a moron for not remembering which episode of Sailor Moon involved some incident

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:47 (ten years ago) link

i love you man, but this is a bad look

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:47 (ten years ago) link

how do you get that?

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link

i'll see if i can find a link for slock so he odesn't need to take any time away from youtube

― markers, Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:41 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh shit :0

, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link

i think that was meant to be more about his laziness than anything else?

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link

and the tone was just returning the volley. anyway if i'm being an apple defender here ok but i'm not even sure i am really but who knows

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:49 (ten years ago) link

i don't think apple is fucked

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:50 (ten years ago) link

assuming that we would know the significance of that post in relation to apple history
that we would know what 9to5 mac is, probably a blog or something?
that we want to go to some other site to read about what is probably a passing anecdote

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:52 (ten years ago) link

well the first thing was just in the news, it's not old. i'm surprised you're not aware of the second, at least due to mark gurman's scoops, but i guess i could be super down the rabbit hole here. lastly, you guys do spend a lot of time talking about fedoras and other useless shit, so i'm sorry you wouldn't want to spend two seconds on this

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link

and yes, this also qualifies as useless shit.

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link

anyway, we're friends, lets not fight

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:55 (ten years ago) link

I have read a lot of random apple stuff in my day but I have no idea who mark gurman is, as far as data points go

I'd say that crafting a cool post tying that anecdote in would be neat!

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:56 (ten years ago) link

he broke the healthbook stuff the other week and has a lot of other apple scoops. sorry, i guess i really *am* down in a rabbit hole here, even in respect to you guys. i should probably spend less time following the minutae on twitter and elsewhere, but for now and the past couple years i really have, at the expense of other interests too

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

i read gil amelio's memoir last year ffs

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 01:58 (ten years ago) link

all im saying markers is "go look up a blog post" is a bad look, why not just post a link to it if you really think its that interesting

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 13:25 (ten years ago) link

i'm not sure it is, but here you go: http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/19/eddy-cue-throws-a-pen-at-haunted-empires-yukari-kanes-accuracy-says-story-isnt-true/

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:00 (ten years ago) link

forgive my mortal transgression of not linking.

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link

now i wish you hadnt

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link

next time i won't

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

it's good to be back

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 17:03 (ten years ago) link

I skipped that link the first time tbh because I assumed it was about eddy cue and the pencil. But it was not and was interesting

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:21 (ten years ago) link

gonna put that picture itt

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:23 (ten years ago) link

got distracted for a moment, but

http://i.imgur.com/JCCTJyi.jpg

from macrumors

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link

shit look at that thing

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link

Wait, what's that? Were they working ON IPHONE in G3 days?

stet, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

no i think it started in 2005. they were trying to mimic the speed of what the phone hardware would be maybe? something like that? it says in the wsj somewhere

markers, Thursday, 27 March 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link

for some reason that reminds me of Jobs using OpenStep on a Thinkpad when he returned to Apple because he thought their laptops were garbage

maybe a fierce G4 (G5?) hater was on the iPhone team

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Thursday, 27 March 2014 20:27 (ten years ago) link

I still shed a tear for all those children who were laid off from their jobs in the Motorola factory in 2006. You couldn't meet a stauncher group of PowerPC/OS 9 nationalists.

fields of salmon, Thursday, 27 March 2014 21:21 (ten years ago) link

good link coming in

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:34 (ten years ago) link

watch it

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (ten years ago) link

at least a little

markers, Friday, 4 April 2014 02:51 (ten years ago) link

so basically they needed an app cloud service. they don't mention any built-in synching merge tools, so presumably they made their own or used some other off-the-shelf library. from the code shown, it seems like there's minimal platform-specific code going on (it looked like javascript from what I watched) so it remains pretty portable.

IMO they're getting a promo deal backed by the video, and if their app gets large enough that they need to reevaluate their needs they could jump to any other cloud platform in a heartbeat

idk if this is apple dropping the ball on iCloud sync (which they have) as much as people not wanting to be locked in, in case they want multiple platforms for their app.

have a nice blood/orange bitters cocktail (mh), Friday, 4 April 2014 03:05 (ten years ago) link


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