indefensible: john gruber

shit look at that thing

Wait, what's that? Were they working ON IPHONE in G3 days?

no i think it started in 2005. they were trying to mimic the speed of what the phone hardware would be maybe? something like that? it says in the wsj somewhere

for some reason that reminds me of Jobs using OpenStep on a Thinkpad when he returned to Apple because he thought their laptops were garbage

maybe a fierce G4 (G5?) hater was on the iPhone team

I still shed a tear for all those children who were laid off from their jobs in the Motorola factory in 2006. You couldn't meet a stauncher group of PowerPC/OS 9 nationalists.

good link coming in

http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Windows-Azure/Learn-how-Vesper-built-offline-sync-using-Azure-Mobile-Services-

watch it

at least a little

so basically they needed an app cloud service. they don't mention any built-in synching merge tools, so presumably they made their own or used some other off-the-shelf library. from the code shown, it seems like there's minimal platform-specific code going on (it looked like javascript from what I watched) so it remains pretty portable.

IMO they're getting a promo deal backed by the video, and if their app gets large enough that they need to reevaluate their needs they could jump to any other cloud platform in a heartbeat

idk if this is apple dropping the ball on iCloud sync (which they have) as much as people not wanting to be locked in, in case they want multiple platforms for their app.

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

he's the one who knew stuff about azure for some reason i think.

ugh, if you click that link make sure you manually add the "-" to the end of the url or you won't get the video

at least i didn't

there are limited app cloud options, really

i'm not sure why they chose this really. br3nt s1mmons does leave in seattle.

And is a worthy partner for Gruber. Christ, his dev blog is so painful to read I had to unsubscribe. Endless "do my homework for me", obvious mining of dead-ends, NIH all over the place, unsubstantiated resistance to the right solutions and manic over-engineering. Explains a lot about why NNW performance was so awful, and definitely explains the horrific state of its nib files.

lol

you've brought actual developers with axes to grind in on this now, markers

damn true

as I said to someone recently, no one hates software developers more than other developers. and if you don't, then you're probably part of the problem.

the funny thing about talking about software dev and vesper is that i actually wrote a notes app for the ti 83 plus back in the day

you can store ten strings on it. i stored all the notes as a series of numbers in a matrix instead of storing them in the strings.

you convert each number back to a character, and each character back into a number, to go from what's stored to what's displayed. something like that.

p.s. ticalc.org existed long before the app store did

your notes application was probably better implemented than vesper

too bad you can't make a living off writing shit in ti basic

https://twitter.com/pschiller/favorites

lol

is it just me or has grubby been a lot more friendly towards micro$hit since his azure coming out video

microsoft is pretty clearly doing better work as of late imo

good comp sci for sure

that's always been true

would work at microsoft before google 100%

would never work at apple

Microsoft's got heart, just having fun out there.

http://bit.ly/1kJ5hqf

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i would be friends with steve ballmer

At that point, Mr. Ballmer picked up a chair and threw it across the room hitting a table in his office. Mr. Ballmer then said: “Fucking Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy. I’m going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I’m going to fucking kill Google.” ….

http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/09/ballmer_throws_a_chair_at_fing_google.php

i hope that really happened

fing_google

what the hell that link isn't even working.

i am renaming myself to that hoos

Every picture of Steve Ballmer looks like it was taken a few seconds after or before he threw a chair across the room.

http://instagram.com/p/nJuoFMw5Ew/

-happy 18th Birthday, marco's son
-thanks mr gruber. you know I love cake!
*grubes dramatically launches instagram*
-I hope you also love this delicious can of VINTAGE CLAIM CHOWDER!!

lol

lol

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/05/16/heathrow-samsung-translation

haha good one

pass the ginsy winsies

Someday, you’re going to want to be able to say, “I’ve been using Vesper since back when it was only for iPhone.”

lol at UPDATE

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2014/06/16/buckyball

lol