no he just figured it out through MATH
― socki (s1ocki), Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:09 (nine years ago) link
soo much math
― lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
imho pieces like this are where gruber usually shines where theres all design usability technical cultural business etc aspects, but this one cldve def been like 1/3 as long as it was
― lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
tl;dr on marco's twitter beef with the wirecutter?
― joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:47 (nine years ago) link
HEADPHONE BEEF
― lag∞n, Friday, 29 August 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
Investigating, Marco apparently inadvertently started something with The Wirecutter people by making a now-edited post calling their process into question, which I think eventually escalated to Marco basically calling them plebs, the Wirecutter people calling him an amateur and then an asshole, and Brian Lam being accused of "race-baiting" by randoms.
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 29 August 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link
lol
― joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Friday, 29 August 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
he wrote a mea culpa saying he had been an asshole but kinda blaming it on social media and saying he was gonna try to log off more and smell the flowers and when i searched twitter to try to figure out the genesis of the beef i found millions of tweets complimenting him on his profundity
― lag∞n, Saturday, 30 August 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link
pffffffffffffffffffffff
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 31 August 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link
a lot of these guys are really bad writers
like this guy has stopped being a developer to become a writer?!
http://mattgemmell.com/confessions-of-an-ex-developer/
if he were american he'd probably be the kind of guy who'd have a copy of strunk and white on this desk (via gruber). but in spite of (because of) that, i feel like i'm having a stroke when i try to parse his writing.
― caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link
My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.
*leans in* say more...
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
he used to insist on calling himself matt legend gemmell
― sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link
My answer is always the same: not really. The actual truth of the matter, as ever, is more nuanced.My mind still works in a systemic, algorithmic way
My mind still works in a systemic, algorithmic way
no it doesn't
― caek, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:03 (nine years ago) link
http://www.patreon.com/mattgemmell
he's making $268 american dollars per month!
― mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
aw
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
MATT GEMMELL IS CREATING WORDS WITH MEANING
oh man he's creating his own words now, how artisanal
― mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
I find myself fashioning sentences, and occasionally paragraphs with some meaning, but would never go so far as to create words.
― mh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link
creating words is groapcian exercise imho
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
his favourite band is Dire Straits
― stet, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
i hope you know that because you found his four hour spotify mix 'coding with the legend' like i did
― sktsh, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
dire straits is good
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/why-i-stopped-758
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-flavored-markdown
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/markdown/status/507341395137658880
― markers, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
lol grube mad
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
LOOOOL
― joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
i wouldn't expect anything less from him
grubington
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
His entire "ownership" of what is basically a rough text formatting convention and one perl script has been the pissiest show of fake power for years. iirc people tried to submit a few bug fixes to his perl script and he refused to even update that, let alone do anything markdown-related other than say he was the creator (lol) for a decade.
The fact he's trying to claim ownership or exclusivity over the ability to make _underscores_ turn into italics or w/e is so.... nothing.
― mh, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
its kinda like how he writes all day abt usability and his site is not mobile ready
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/gruber/status/507570887068237824 lool
(OK, I'm hardly one to talk on the benign neglect line but y'know)
― stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:51 (nine years ago) link
Yeah but you just know this is also some bullshit principle. iOS Safari is such a magical experience that you don't even need the baby web. See also: apple.com
― stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
ha yeah i love to pinch just to read still not big enough text its good
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
markdown is very good but grube believes himself an artist when hes really a craftsman
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
he is such a ding dong
― mh, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
what jackass
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
ive got a heaping cup of claim chowder to server this jackass i swear
server this jackass
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link
damn straight
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
Yeah the official Markdown is a Perl script implemented with regexes and tons of undefined edge cases, so thanks for the idea Grubes but the Pandoc guy is the true Markdown king now.
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
also no thanks for the idea. fuck markup. the mac did this better in 1984. ⌘-B >>>>>> "* *"
― stet, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link
Is that a rejected JW user name
― 龜, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:22 (nine years ago) link
^_^
― ⌘-B (mh), Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
The @horse_markdown parody Twitter account
― fields of salmon, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link
man I don't ordinarily play this card but of Jeff Atwood and John Gruber, one of those people is actually a professional software developer
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link
http://blog.codinghorror.com/standard-markdown-is-now-common-markdown
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
grubers a baby
Marco Arment @marcoarment
Whether Gruber filed a trademark with the USPTO or not has no relevance on whether it’s a dick move to commandeer the name.
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 September 2014 00:10 (nine years ago) link
it is a commendable dick move imo
― ⌘-B (mh), Friday, 5 September 2014 00:21 (nine years ago) link
John Gruber was also very upset, and I think rightfully so, that the word Markdown was not capitalized throughout the spec.
― socki (s1ocki), Friday, 5 September 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link