Where is good these days? Going in 3-4 weeks and we want to go somewhere that's absolutely top quality, the equivalent of St John or Dinner or one of the really great places in London. But it's all a bit bewildering and the guides are full of obvious tourist trap picks or dubious statements.
Where do people recommend? Not enormously expensive would be nice but we don't mind pushing the boat out for something incredible.
― Matt DC, Monday, 20 June 2011 11:26 (six years ago) Permalink
chez l'ami jean was pretty amazing when we went, would definitely recommend
― just sayin, Monday, 20 June 2011 11:28 (six years ago) Permalink
and it wasnt crazy expensive - it looks kind of like a standard bistro, but then when the food comes it out its just next level. we had the a la carte but then once we saw how good everything was we immediately regretted not getting the tasting menu
― just sayin, Monday, 20 June 2011 11:29 (six years ago) Permalink
This is exactly the sort of thing I want to hear. We're there two nights, so probably going for one reasonably cheap one and something more extravagant.
― Matt DC, Monday, 20 June 2011 11:31 (six years ago) Permalink
yeah check it out - im sure theres some pics of it on numerous food blogs, i think its become a bit of a destination place
― just sayin, Monday, 20 June 2011 11:32 (six years ago) Permalink
A wine bar, not a restaurant, but very good - http://www.yelp.com/biz/les-caves-de-prague-paris
― in an arrangement that mimics idiocy (Michael White), Monday, 20 June 2011 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink
bars and restaurants anyone? clubs? staying in the marais area this weekend, sat till monday night.
somewhere good to go out at night would be cool, not necessarily rave based, but a decent lively late night bar.
going to les crocs as mentioned here on sat night: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/7bc76266-a0ea-11df-badd-00144feabdc0.html
― When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:21 (five years ago) Permalink
i'm going @ end of march and would love some recs as well--midpriced interesting places for dinner and cool bars especially.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:28 (five years ago) Permalink
Le Dome du Marais is excellent, was there a few weeks ago. Also Chateaubriand is not too far. Frenchie was great too.
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink
Le Taxi Jaune is a decent small midpriced restaurant, family run iirc.
― ledge, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:00 (five years ago) Permalink
I went to a wonderful place called Vivant in Paris -- I don't remember the neighborhood but it was GREAT.
― La Lechera, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink
will still rep for l'ami jean as i did up above
― just sayin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:26 (five years ago) Permalink
what's pantin like? rough?
going to P4K festival in nov and contemplating staying somewhere more central and travelling out. is the metro 24hr?
― killer camel beej (cozen), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 17:00 (five years ago) Permalink
Chez L'Ami Jean was amazing, so glad I took the advice of this thread...
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 17:01 (five years ago) Permalink
:) glad to hear you enjoyed it!
― just sayin, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink
Gonna spend two night in Paris soon...any updates?
― kate78, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 21:57 (four years ago) Permalink
Updates needed, merci
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 November 2014 15:01 (three years ago) Permalink
where are you gonna be? & what are you looking for?
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 3 November 2014 16:25 (three years ago) Permalink
Forget exact location of hotel right now, but in Paris next week for 4 days. I am usually a cheap ethnic food type (wife is more willing to go more pricey contemporary gourmet), but could vary that upward for at least a meal or 2 of more "French" cuisine. Looking for a good Senegalese or Moroccan place.
Someone was touting me Japanese restuarant Guilo Guilo, but am not sure if I want that.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 November 2014 18:37 (three years ago) Permalink
All food is "ethnic" food, I know.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 3 November 2014 19:18 (three years ago) Permalink
am going to be in Paris a fair bit between now and Christmas so will be bookmarking this thread and will also try and bring some recommendations.
went to le gavroche on rue St Marc on a recommendation when I was there last - not a high end restaurant like its London namesake but an exceptionally good small restaurant that does fairly traditional bistro food with an excellent selection of wines. (I had herring and Sancerre, then an excellent steak frites with, um, a very nice red. and then some more of the red)
will try and get some non-french recommendations too, c.
― Fizzles, Monday, 3 November 2014 20:22 (three years ago) Permalink
jergins and i will be in paris december 15-17! if fizzles and/or others fancy some pints let us know on this thread!
― lxy, Monday, 3 November 2014 23:36 (three years ago) Permalink
le basilic was just about everything i hoped it would be. walking around the north end and stumbling on that place was a godsend.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 04:36 (three years ago) Permalink
bestrot paul bert (surprisingly on rue paul bert) is really excellent and pretty reasonable. id recommend pomze on boulevard hausmann p highly as well. also le petit prince in the 5th right by the sorbonne - it seems like it would be kinda corny but the food was excellent and they have the best creme brulee ive ever had
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 04:50 (three years ago) Permalink
my fav Moroccan place in the city is Founti Agadir, at Censier-Daubenton in the 5th. was there a couple weeks ago. if that doesn't work then the Paris Mosque is a fun place to eat too.
for Ethiopian I always have a good time at Godjo, near the Panthéon.
close to Godjo, lunch at Louis Vins is a great deal. cash only.
those are all in the part of the city that I know best. and none are bank breakers.
obv L'As de Falafel is a cheap classic in the Marais. get it to go and eat in the Place des Vosges. pick up something sweet at Sacha Finkelstein while you're on the Rue des Rosiers.
oh and north of the Marais, Chez Nénesse is good. I've never gone for Thursday lunch but it's said that they have the best frites in Paris that day.
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:12 (three years ago) Permalink
Pitzman is a good alternative to L'As de Falafel in the Marais - does a lot of good Kosher food, too.
― Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:28 (three years ago) Permalink
there used to be a lot of terrific kosher North African restaurants in Belleville but they've been chased out by gentrification. I miss those places.
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:34 (three years ago) Permalink
I'm a huge fan of Sunday oysters at Le Baron Rouge, just a few steps into the 12th, next to a great flea market.
― resting rich face (suzy), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 10:58 (three years ago) Permalink
highly recommend bistroy les papilles which is linked upthread
and also yeah you have to go to l'as du felafel even if it's v. obvious
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 11:54 (three years ago) Permalink
In Bellevile La Cantine is good for cheap, delicious but unflashy meals (entree and plate for 12 euro)Renee and Gabin is a great Kosher Tunisian also in Belleville
Restaurant Bouillon Chartier on the Rue du Faubourg Montmartre is reasonably priced classic French food. Lovely, huge space. Old school. Gets crowded andthere's often a wait to get in so early dining is prob your best bet if you want to avoid the queue.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 12:06 (three years ago) Permalink
I think René et Gabin is closed?
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 13:36 (three years ago) Permalink
Can't figure it out from google yet.
Thanks all for the great ideas.
Does anyone know Le Porokhane (3, Rue Moret) or Chez Aida (48, Rue Polonceau -Metro Barbes or Chateau Rouge)? they are both Senegalese
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 15:13 (three years ago) Permalink
No, I don't know either. I've been to Moussa l'Africain, near the Cité des Sciences up in the 19th, which is sort of a pan-sub-Saharan African restaurant. I thought it was great (the lemon crème brûlée and banana tarte tatin were fabulous) but I see that it gets kinda panned by reviews, so I dunno.
Kamukera is a good Afro-Antillaise place on the rue du Chevaleret, close to the BNF. I've eaten there several times, you can get some standard Cameroonian dishes but also some West Indian stuff. cheap too!
also in that area: I dearly love Auberge Etchegorry, a Basque restaurant near Les Gobelins. oh man I want to head up there since it's getting on dinner time! start with the rillettes; their spin on cassoulet is epic; but it's the gateau basque that I really love.
& I've eaten next to it, at La Touraine, more times than I can count, but I wouldn't go out of my way for it. mostly I go there for offal. good times, but nothing extravagant.
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 16:45 (three years ago) Permalink
no René et Gabin was open last week when I was there!
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:00 (three years ago) Permalink
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:34 (three years ago) Permalink
in a dresseur brasserie in grim Porte de Versailles right now. Liverpool v RM on tho which is creating an enjoyable atmosphere. ordered lamb and gratin dauphinois.
lxy - v possibly be around for pints. will post here.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:53 (three years ago) Permalink
that's dreadful rather than dresseur as it happens.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:54 (three years ago) Permalink
obv L'As de Falafel is a cheap classic in the Marais
this was my husband's favourite place to eat when he lived in paris years and years ago - it just so happened that the apartment we stayed at when we went back this year was practically around the corner, and it was the first place we ate at. i don't really like falafel but even i thought it was really good.
― just1n3, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 21:43 (three years ago) Permalink
i don't really have any good recs though bc we ended up going to a lot of random places that were terrible.
― just1n3, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 21:44 (three years ago) Permalink
(sic) and I were there last year and really enjoyed the eats we got at Le Marché des Enfants Rouges. It's a semi-open market with lotsa food vendors. He stood in line to get us Moroccan food while I went off to procure a bottle of wine. The family that owned the stall then escorted us to a table and poured the wine.
― kate78, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 00:31 (three years ago) Permalink
hi fizzles. let us know if you want to meet up! we will be in paris monday-tuesday-wednesday.
― lxy, Sunday, 14 December 2014 17:11 (three years ago) Permalink
bollocks - wd've been good but I haven't been keeping up with ilx recently and missed this. got drunk with french office colleagues on Monday at a murky bar in the 15th a. just under the peripherique and had a dismal Vietnamese on Tuesday.
hope you had a good time!
― Fizzles, Saturday, 20 December 2014 15:21 (three years ago) Permalink
one more night in paris tomorrow (friday jan 2) if you're around still/again
― lxy, Thursday, 1 January 2015 09:43 (three years ago) Permalink
anyone got any recent tips for places to eat, or just things to do? going for the weekend - mainly going to just relax pre-christmas but any recommendations for things to see or unusual sites of interest would be good. i've been to the big main things over the years.
i'm staying near pigalle metro.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 1 December 2016 11:50 (one year ago) Permalink
Next time I go to Paris I'm going to visit the Church of Notre Dame de Raincy - 20s modernist concrete, looks incredible.
Our household is on a bit of a Bauhaus kick at the moment and would definitely be heading for the show at the Musee d'Arts Decoratifs which looks vg.
― Tim, Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:09 (one year ago) Permalink
From Bauhaus to steak house
― Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink
― Tim, Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:19 (one year ago) Permalink
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 1 December 2016 15:26 (one year ago) Permalink
South Pigalle is a popular neighborhood right now. Have you been to the Musée Gustave Moreau? If you like À Rebours then this is relevant to your interests. It's in south Pigalle.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:01 (one year ago) Permalink
ah I've never read that - I probably should!
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 1 December 2016 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink
yeah I've never eaten over there. Batignolles / Porte de Clichy is "happening" now but that's probably further than you'd like to walk.
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 06:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Yeah. I get in pretty late and want something close to my crash pad. I think I'll walk to Chez L'Ami Jean, it's only like 20 mins!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 08:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink
I will be in Paris for a couple of nights later in the month; we've lots of things planned by way of looking at galleries / architecture but we're trying not to be too precise about what we do when (it'll accord to what we feel like). Any recommendations for places to eat in any of the following categories? Generally speaking, with an eye to the exchange rate, places which aren't terribly expensive much preferred1) for lunch in the 16th, roughly near Jasmin (though we're happy to walk within reason)2) dinner anywhere we wouldn't have to book (ie we can decide to go there at the last minute if it makes sense, given we'll be mobile)3) breakfast within sensible walking distance of Grands Boulevards metro
Happy to hear about anywhere any of you might particularly love though.
― Tim, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 15:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink
the XVIème is like a foreign country to me, out of my price range!
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 16:40 (eleven months ago) Permalink
I went to L'Ami Jean. It was fantastic! Very home-style stuff. Dessert was particularly amazing. Also it was Very Expensive. Mains for like 40-60 euros. Wayyyyy out of my price range. But it was great :) Shabby tables, diner style service, but very attentive, the staff all incredibly salty - "Can I have another carafe of water?" "No" *wink*
Last night we went to Le Sot L'y Laisse which was just astonishing. A Japanese chef doing French food, basically. It was out of this world. We had a long comical moment with the staff where we couldn't decide which wine to get - there were 5 of us - and she kept bringing out different bottles, putting a taste in each of our glasses, we'd try it, she'd push us to try another.. I think we tried 5 different bottles! Everything was bold and fresh and good. No heavy rich sauces. There was pigeon and veal and sole. I really recommend it. In common with Chez L'Ami Jean the interior and decoration were perfunctory, slapped together, as if it had been inherited from whatever the previous place had been. Didn't matter. It felt like a privilege to get to sit and eat there (and it was).
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 January 2017 19:58 (eleven months ago) Permalink
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:00 (eleven months ago) Permalink
― just sayin, Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink
was there also a prix fixe menu at l'ami jean? i think thats what we got
― just sayin, Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:16 (eleven months ago) Permalink
might depend on where you're staying, tim, but i ate at a place called ambassade auvergne one of my evenings, it was v traditional but enjoyable, i had aligot and sausage, nice atmosphere, amazing chocolate mousse. another evening i went to a place in montmartre called mascotte montmartre, gigantic bowl of mussels with frites. i guess as a solo traveller and someone who hadn't been in paris for a while i was sort of looking for the classics done well, both of these places fitted that bill.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 29 January 2017 20:19 (eleven months ago) Permalink
in my neck of the woods there's a place called En Vrac which sells fabulous wines "en vrac", that's to say you fill up your own bottles (like growlers for beer in the States). the wine is excellent & inexpensive since you do the bottling; they also have a lovely selection of already-bottled wines, mostly natural, as well as some spirits en vrac as well. You can eat there too and have wine by the glass.
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 29 January 2017 21:14 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Thanks all of you. Now I want to go to all of the places you mention. Euler, en Vrac sounds fab (I really like the sound of these caves with limited but good menus; do you think I'd struggle there with very limited French? (I mean, I can roughly mke myself understood but I'm still well short of decent conversational French, shamefully.)
― Tim, Monday, 30 January 2017 14:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink
To be fair it's pretty hard to learn a language!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 January 2017 15:12 (eleven months ago) Permalink
At En Vrac they talked to my brother in great English.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 January 2017 15:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink
We didn't make it to En Vrac this time, hope we do in the future.
We did go to Le Sot L'Y Laisse, which we enjoyed as much as Tracer did: the food was spectacular throughout without being flashy (a bit of judiciously-applied foam was the closest it got to being techniquey), and the room was a pleasure to be in: the staff were so ridiculously nice and everyone in the tiny place seemed to be having a good time. Us included. It's not often I go to a restaurant and think that it isn't really like any other restaurant I've been to (at least, I rarely think that in a positive way) but this place seemed really unique.
Other places we enjoyed this weekend: Au Passage, which is the familiar (for London) concept of small plates, which (in London) can involve a lot of mediocrity inbetween a few really good things; not so here, where everything was delicious and the staff seemed very happy to accommodate my terrible French and slip comfortably into English as soon as they needed to. We were very pleased with the place.
We also walked into a place called Racines for a late lunch after our train arrived too late for us to wander about, largely because it was super-close to our hotel and I had half a memory of reading a good review. This too was delicious, I had some lamb dish which seemed more or less perfect, J was just as pleased with her sole PLUS the wine we drank, after having asked for a glass of house white, was probably the best thing we drank all weekend. That's in a weekend which involved tremendous cocktails in Pas de Loup and The Red House amongst others.
I'm pretty sure the Parisian food and drink trade is much, much more tolerant of bad French than it was 20 years ago.
(The concrete church in La Raincy which I mentioned upthread is an absolute marvel, by the way, and justified the trip on its own, but that's off-topic I guess.)
I'm pleased to say this was overall the best weekend in Paris I've had, even in the cold and the wet. Well done Paris.
― Tim, Monday, 13 February 2017 16:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2017 19:44 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Hi all, I'll be in Paris for a few days in mid-late May with my wife. Does anyone have any good recommendations for a nice romantic dinner? Where I can still get a reservation for a Thurs-Mon in a month's time? Willing to travel a bit, but I'll be staying in the Marais if that helps :)
Any suggestions would be very welcome! For a reference point, I tried to get a table at 'Frenchie' but sadly couldn't get anything on the days I'll be there (it looks great and the reviews are pretty stellar, so I'll throw that out there as a rec for the thread). Also doesn't have to be French cuisine either.
― Federico Boswarlos, Monday, 24 April 2017 00:28 (eight months ago) Permalink
Finding a reservation for a nice dinner someplace is no problem. For an "event" restaurant, though, I have no idea. My favorite restaurant in the Marais is Chez Nenesse but it's only an event in terms of having the best frites in Paris, if you make it for Thursday lunch. Otherwise it's a local stalwart, where everyone seems to know everyone.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 24 April 2017 15:10 (eight months ago) Permalink
Cool, thanks for the rec. Best frites sounds good! I'll add it to the list.
I was able to get a reservation at Verjus which sounds nice http://verjusparis.com/ but would gladly take any other recommendations in addition to the ones upthread.
― Federico Boswarlos, Monday, 24 April 2017 18:47 (eight months ago) Permalink
not a restaurant, but i recommend cocktails in the bar at hotel maison souqet in pigalle. some of the best cocktails i've had - i was a guest so you may need to book, but it is extremely nice.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 00:45 (eight months ago) Permalink
not romantic, but really fun and delicious and a good deal:
― remy bean, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 02:23 (eight months ago) Permalink
got a few recommendations from a couple of winemakers. haven't been to any of them yet, but will be in Paris in January probably, so will aim to check one or possibly two out:
Les Arlots, r. du Fauberg Poissonière (came v highly recommended)Bistrot Paul Bert, and the nearby cousin, specialising in fish, L'Ecailler du Bistrot, both on r Paul BertLe Clown Bar, r Amelot
― Fizzles, Monday, 18 December 2017 21:12 (four weeks ago) Permalink
Those are all ones I’ve heard of but haven’t tried. Maybe I’ll try les Arlots over the vacances, that one sounds particularly nice and I live pretty close by.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 18 December 2017 21:23 (four weeks ago) Permalink
L'Avant Comptoir (wine bar) is a little too popular but I always have fun every time I go. They opened a seafood centric version right next door (quieter, but they have some seating). I also really like Le Verre Vole for a super casual lunch (great selections of natural wines). There is also La Cave Paul Bert, but the vibe is a little too off for me. Les Campagnie des Vins Surnaturel (there is also one in NYC) has a lot more seating and also has an excellent wine list, some small foods, boho furniture.
― Yerac, Monday, 18 December 2017 21:34 (four weeks ago) Permalink
Also, I feel like the Thai food is better in Paris than NYC. That could just be me though. For a bucket list splurge, I do think L'Arpege is worth it (the lunch cost especially).
― Yerac, Monday, 18 December 2017 21:49 (four weeks ago) Permalink
I was there a month ago and Pottoka was really, really great.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:02 (four weeks ago) Permalink
Where do you go for Thai in Paris? I’ve never had it here though I nearly decided to go to a place on the canal for lunch today (made yaki udon at home instead cuz I got lazy). On Thursday I’ll be in the 13th most of the day so I was thinking of a Thai place down there too.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:28 (four weeks ago) Permalink
There are a several really good ones around where all the bars are in Place D'Italie. I also think Mme Shawn is fine (plus they have tofu if someone needs a veg friendly place).
― Yerac, Monday, 18 December 2017 22:35 (four weeks ago) Permalink
yeah the 13th is probably where I gotta go. I teach there one evening a week but I’m rarely there for lunch
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:38 (four weeks ago) Permalink
Oh wait, I am thinking of the wrong stop. Place D'Italie is too big, this one is smaller and had the spigots of natural water that you can fill your water jugs.
― Yerac, Monday, 18 December 2017 22:39 (four weeks ago) Permalink
Maybe I am thinking of Corvisart nearby, but the general area is right. Also, Mme Shawn has a couple of locations.
― Yerac, Monday, 18 December 2017 22:43 (four weeks ago) Permalink
going for two nights this week, staying in marais near place des vosges.
any food or other recs welcome - i have some familiarity with places i like but places that are good for dining solo would be nice too - i am not too squeamish about the atmosphere, a counter or bar is nice but not mandatory. Le Sot L'y Laisse sounds great - how is that if i'm solo?
any good cocktail bars?
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 30 December 2017 20:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Maybe try Sherry Butt? I’ve never been (I’m rarely in the Marais, just for falafel) but I’ve heard it’s good. I should try l’Ambroisie sometime
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink
le sot l'y laisse would be fine solo. you could even bring a book probably. it's in kind of a quiet area, not sure about cocktail bars around there. i will have a marais suggestion just as soon as my wife comes downstairs.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink
I enjoyed cocktails at both Little Red Door and Experimental Cocktail Club, the latter in/near the Marais. IANParisian, just a tourist, so y'know pls ignore.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Saturday, 30 December 2017 22:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink
the lovely Emma B says Chez Janou in the Marais. though it can get busy.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 30 December 2017 23:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink
ah that one came up in some of my searching. what i find difficult about paris, a bit like new york but moreso, is that you read a review of a place that says it's good, then check the website and the menu is sort of general french bistro, and then the google reviews are all 4.1 or 4.2.
this doesn't happen in london cos the average standard is so variable - and in nyc i can kind of gauge places more based on the english language and how much more branded and distinct they are. in paris i find myself comparing one bistro to another, it's p hard to read the clues. as a result i end up going classic and avoiding more modern places, not that i don't think they'd be good, more that it's hard to tell what's just some joker fucking around and what's actually interesting, i guess i don't fully get the food aesthetic of paris as a city. there seems to be some chasm between classic and wildly expensive michelin in which there's a wide range of other experimental cooking the quality or nature of which i'm unsure about.
these look good - ty.
any really glaringly essential sights/museums i should actually see or things i should do? i am p bad at doing these, i often just go for long walks when on holiday. think i might go to the picasso museum but other than that i have some work to do in the day.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Saturday, 30 December 2017 23:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Used to like hanging out in the Marais but haven’t been there in decades so have nothing to add to whatever I may have posted further upthread /zingpost
― Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink
ah i'll have a look - sorry
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Oberkampf was a favorite neighborhood on my recent visit; ate at one of Pierre Sang's places there, didn't wow me as much as Pottoka but that was an unexpectedly high bar. The Sang was definitely a great atmosphere, you sit practically in the kitchen where two chefs put out like 6 courses while Madonna blasts on the stereo.
Also ate at L'Ami Jean, lunch at Guy Savoy, er I have to remember the others. L'Ami Jean was good but not my favorite (see above). Guy Savoy is like whatever I was on vacation and wanted to splurge on the cheap, i.e. 130 euro lunch menu. Which quickly escalated because drinks, of course.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Okay, used to love to hang out at Au Petit Fer à Cheval, named after its horseshoe-shaped bar, at 30 Rue Vielle du Temple. Looks like the proprietor Xavi now owns four restaurants in the area. Remember being pleasantly surprised to see his walk-on part in The Dreamlife of Angels, seems he has some other film credits as well as actor and writer.
― Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 December 2017 00:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink
I thought the cocktails at Pas de Loup were excellent, we went early when it was quietist and they were charming, we could have stayed all night. But we went to the Red House and drank more, also very good cocktails in a pubbier atmos. Then we walked to Le Sot L’y A Laisse ( thanks to Tracer) and fell a bit in love with the place.
― Tim, Sunday, 31 December 2017 07:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Food recs in Paris are weird in part because Parisiens tend to eat quite locally, not straying much from their quartier or from where they work. And the Marais now is mostly a touristic quartier, so the recs will be more out of sorts.
― droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 31 December 2017 10:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink
There you go
― Dr. Winston ‘Merritone’ Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink
i went to chez janou last night. it was great! i was there quite early but it was extremely busy, tourists eat early i suppose, my excuse was i travelled through lunch. initially it looked as tho i wouldn't get in but then the barman (possibly owner) said i'd be okay if i was happy to eat at the bar, which obv was what i wanted. ended up meeting a few people who were sitting beside me - the atmos generally was great, the barman was ridiculously rude to some people but once you braved his initial greeting it was all pretty genial. he was pouring free glasses of wine and stuff for us by the end. really great communal atmos and the food was nice, fairly classic stuff. thanks for the tip, tracer and emma b.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Is it rude to ask you if you specifically went to Paris to get some writing done? (read your trimming down a story tweets)
Asking because France has been extremely kind to me in this respect: I go away at least once a year on my own, to have a couple of good writing days, coupled with good food and an inspiring feeling. Paris is hard to beat when it comes to my specific needs that way, though it can be hard to ignore all the diversions. Was just wondering if your trip was of the same make more or less.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 18:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink
sort of a combo of things. my assignments for college are due on monday, it's nice to get away somewhere after xmas, and i didn't want to spend a week in my apartment trying to write, can be kind of cabin fever. also just nice to visit paris, food and wine etc. the change of scene was p good actually - kind of forced me to work in compact segments of time.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Yeah, that's the best. Cabin fever very much something bothering me when trying to write. I've plenty of time for blaming my home but in fairness it's me. Bonne chance, man.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 21:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink
ah that's great you had a good time at janou ronan. i haven't been there in years. i do remember a certain impressive surliness to the waitstaff, and the lovely emma b telling me that if you're rude back to them "the waiters sort of enjoy it" which i still have my reservations about. in any case it's quite rare to get a free drink in france so well done!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 23:21 (two weeks ago) Permalink
there was some free absinthe also - it was quite a friendly atmosphere until an extremely weird american joined in. when i said i was in paris for two days he said "that's awesome - well done you for choosing to give that gift to yourself"
last night i went to bistrot paul bert, it was full of other tourists, predictably enough, but the food was very good. really good steak tartare with salad and fries, steak, salad and chips all exemplary.
today with some time to kill near gare du nord i ended up trying this place: https://www.alexanderlobrano.com/restaurant-reviews/les-arlots-paris-a-stunningly-good-new-bistro-a-b/
it was fantastic - prob the best meal i had this time around. the menu was a lot more simple for lunch than in that article, i had an egg salad to start and onglet with potato gratin. the wine was mostly natural and the entire atmos and service was great. definitely worth a try for those of you using the eurostar.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:42 (one week ago) Permalink
ah that was the top recommendation i got from the winemakers I was talking to as well (les arlots have just started stocking their wine). will definitely try it when i'm out there next, hopefully at the end of the month.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 6 January 2018 16:01 (one week ago) Permalink