rolling china thread 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uNWzzt-n3s

i've been in hong kong the last week and yesterday we crossed the border at lo wu into shenzhen. it was so incredible how in one 10 minute train journey the atmosphere and the people change so much. we only got to spend a few hours so we wandered around being pestered by "sale's managers" from the nearby shopping center. kinda annoyed i didn't get to see more.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/c/ccs1ic?med=1;sort=ccs1ic_id;type=boolean;view=thumbnail;rgn1=ic_all;q1=ccs1ic

yeh it is literally, literally, night and day, the passage between hk and shenzhen

whenever I made that crossing it always felt like 'coming home' and 'civilization' idk weird feeling to have about a place you've lived in for only a few years

i never know how appropriate it is to ask these sorts of questions in the middle of threads or whatever and when i should just email but

yo dayo, are you still in hong kong?

no I came back to the states this past summer

but if you need any pointers lmk also there is at least one ilxor still in hk

one of the coolest ilxors ever btw

okay!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/world/asia/murong-xuecun-pushes-censorship-limits-in-china.html?_r=2

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/11/china-gigantic/

AWESOME

"If you look at China, they don't have food stamps. They don't have the modern welfare state, and China's growing. And so what I would do is look at the programs that LBJ gave us with the Great Society and they'd be gone," - Michele Bachmann

"If you look at China, they don't have food stamps. They don't have the modern welfare state, and China's building enormous patterns in remote mountain plateaux. And so what I would do is look at the programs that LBJ gave us with the Great Society and they'd be gone," - Michele Bachmann

pronounced "plat-ooks"

for once the folx at slashdot provide some cool/helpful stuff

http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2525304&cid=38054096

First comment suggests a relation between the desert project and a map of Washington, D.C....

http://gizmodo.com/5859081/why-is-china-building-these-gigantic-structures-in-the-middle-of-the-desert

And then all the other comments suggest it's a wind farm...

lol uh that is truther stuff right there xp

if you thought walking to school uphill both ways in the snow was bad

http://www.chinahush.com/2011/11/14/treacherous-road-to-school/

also huge LOLs

http://shanghaiist.com/2011/11/15/breaking_vladimir_putin_winner_of_t.php

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzIwNjM2NDc2.html

"If you look at China, they don't have food stamps. They don't have the modern welfare state, and China's building enormous patterns in remote mountain plateaux. And so what I would do is look at the programs that LBJ gave us with the Great Society and they'd be gone," - Michele Bachmann

― max, Monday, November 14, 2011 11:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

loool

I'm just gonna post the NYT take on the confucius peace prize because it's so lol

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/world/asia/chinas-confucius-prize-awarded-to-vladimir-putin.html

“Those wars were righteous wars,” Qiao Damo, the self-described co-founder and president of the Confucius Peace Prize committee, said in a telephone interview. “Mr. Putin fought for the unification of his country.”

“His iron hand and toughness revealed in this war impressed the Russians a lot, and he was regarded to be capable of bringing safety and stability to Russia,” read an English version of the committee’s statement. “He became the anti-terrorist No. 1 and the national hero.”

The award, co-sponsored this year by Moutai, a liquor company

yeah hey dylannn i'm here. happy to help out or meet up or whatever. let me know. im not that cool but im pretty cool. if you're here before december 4th (i think) this is definitely worth checking out.

http://shanghaiist.com/2011/11/17/video_of_tibetan_self-immolation_fr.php

haven't watched this yet, dunno if I'm going to

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8893337/Chinese-man-sets-himself-on-fire-in-Tiananmen-Square.html

1984, forrealz

oh hey, okay dude!! thanks for the offer. aware of yang zhichao as performance artist but hadn't heard of the notebooks project. would like to check it out. has yang zhichao staged a selfimmolation yet?

actually, i will say this right now, if anyone is ever in northern china, feel free to stop by and visit :))))

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/rBGpV6bjdhU/

http://shanghaiist.com/2011/11/18/google_maps_mystery_structures_actu.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdJVASZknBg

http://the-diplomat.com/china-power/2011/11/18/reporting-on-china/

Fox Butterworth, the New York Times’ first post-Mao China correspondent, tells the story of a young woman who opened up to him (off the record) about the sex life of Deng Xiaoping’s China and wound up in a prison camp for embarrassing the country.

now I'm intrigued

my dad tried to explain to me that mao wasn't a sex-crazed peasant, that he was just 'curious'

he lived up to the old kmt line about 共产共妻

actually, i know he had a few wives but never really heard much about mao's sex life.

heard mao had the pick of the litter of all the nubile young female peasants in the countryside, there have been books that go into this in more detail but you can never be sure how apocryphal the tales are or if they are really true

What has lent Mr. Gingrich’s written and spoken work, or, as he calls it, his “teaching,” the casual semblance of being based on some plain-spoken substance, some rough-hewn horse sense, is that most of what he says has reached us in outline form, with topic points capitalized (the capitalization has been restrained in the more conventionally edited To Renew America) and systematically, if inappositely, numbered. There were “Seven key aspects” and “Nine vision-level principles” of “Personal Strength” (Pillar Two of American Civilization), there were “Five core principles” of “Quality as Defined by Deming” (Pillar Five), there were “Three Big Concepts” of “Entrepreneurial Free Enterprise” (Pillar Three). There were also, still under Pillar Three, “Five Enemies of Entrepreneurial Free Enterprise” (“Bureaucracy,” “Credentialing,” “Taxation,” “Litigation,” and “Regulation”), which would have been identical to Pillar Four’s “Seven welfare state cripplers of progress” had the latter not folded in “Centralization,” “Anti-progress Cultural Attitude,” and “Ignorance.”

In Window of Opportunity, Mr. Gingrich advised us that “the great force changing our world is a synergism of essentially six parts,” and offered “five simple steps to a bold future.” On the health-care question, Mr. Gingrich posited “eight areas of necessary change.” On the issue of arms control, he saw “seven imperatives that will help the free world survive in the age of nuclear weapons.” Down a few paragraphs the seven imperatives gave way to “two initiatives,” then to “three broad strategic options for the next generation,” and finally, within the scan of the eye, to “six realistic goals which would increase our children’s chances of living in a world without nuclear war.”

haha when I was reading that I was thinking the exact same thing

newt gingrich really is a remarkable man

i did always love how clearly mao outlined stuff

newt gingrich's 'ten taxonomic precepts of sedition' will be required reading for ccp plants worldwide in 2k12

http://beat.baidu.com/?p=3515

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/jiaoqu/ddddddddddddddddddddd.jpg

we will start the 2012 thread on chinese new year's. the ayes have it.

very surprised at hu's blatant declaration that the US and china are in a culture war

wonder when china pop culture will 'get it.' like, for example, look at their cartoons - they just don't understand anthropomorphism. their shit looks so creepy. like beady-eyes, no expressions, dudes, japanese & american cartoons have big beady eyes for a reason

err *big expressive eyes

id like to see a chinese equivalent of rush limabugh style mock-chinese, preferably on youtube

feel like china's efficiency in mocking wite ppl langauges will have big implications for the kulturkampf

http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2012/01/04/the-republicans-on-china-who-knows-what%E2%80%99s-up-and-who-doesn%E2%80%99t-2/

interesting take on hu's remarks

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/01/beijings-culture-war-isnt-about-the-us-its-about-chinas-future/250900/

reminded that so far the most strident efforts have been made against china's own culture-producers like 非诚勿扰

it's always been embarrassing to have to rep for chinese literature because there isn't a lot of it that i feel right repping for and everything that appears in english translation is hindered by being shittily translated (99% of it by howard goldblatt).

so i dunno. to see chinese literature today devote an issue to him... with a fucking self-interview... and everything in the magazine is basically howard goldblatt school of translation stuff. really overliteral and all the chinese idioms are matched with english idioms (which would work if english writing involved a lot of pithy phrases and shit).

anyways.

i was sort of stoked to see them finally drop a second issue because i was supposed to have an excerpt of northern girls by sheng keyi in it. but there was supposedly some "controversy" because it had dirty words in it (book revolves around a girl with huge breasts who fucks her way to shenzhen). but no.