{i]The Train[/i]: ACTION FILM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1r4-w_QJFM
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
^^This is on TCM this weekend. I'll finally see it.
Search: Manchurian, Seven Days in May, Ronin, Andersonville (ok not seen it since it first aired but loved it as a kid)
Destroy: Moreau (maybe), Reindeer Games (definitely)
― encarta it (Gukbe), Friday, 17 February 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
Seconds is great. An old roommate who didn't care for it called it "just a Twilight zone kind of thing." I love both.
― sknybrg, Friday, 17 February 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
Dr.Morbius (John Randolph) is a middle-aged man whose life has lost purpose. He has achieved success in his career, but finds it unfulfilling. Dr. Morbius' death is staged to make it look as if he perished in a hotel fire; a corpse is left at the scene that can be identified as his. Through extensive plastic surgery and mental and physical conditioning, Morbius is transformed into Tony Wilson (Rock Hudson), a man who looks and acts much younger. He is provided with a new home, a new identity, new friends and a devoted manservant.
― buzza, Friday, 17 February 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
I'd throw a cautious "search" to Gran Prix, which is luckily more of a racing time capsule than soap opera (just).
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 February 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
also search birdman of alcatraz, the iceman cometh.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 17 February 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
Destroy: Moreau (maybe),
it took me a minute to figure out that you didn't mean Jeanne Moreau in The Train.
Because it was on a double feature bill with a re-release of Butch Cassidy, I think this was the first JF film I saw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2OKSpK8I8o
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 05:18 (twelve years ago) link
that movie is not very good.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 17 February 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
oh you know what movie is good? the french connection II.
haven't seen that in forever, just remember Hackman in cold turkey sweats talking about Mickey Mantle?
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone watched this? It's on the DVD and VHS versions. Watch Sinatra get less ornery the faster he slurps his drink.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjEWLmc1p0U
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 February 2012 11:55 (twelve years ago) link
Love Seconds, Seven Days in May, Manchurian Candidate. Like The Train, Ronin and French Connection II. Don't know what was going on with Reindeer Games - could have been directed by anyone.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Friday, 17 February 2012 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
Criterion Seconds review copy, yo
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 July 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
love it, loses some steam w/ the cali scenes tho iirc
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 28 July 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link
assorted musings on Seconds
http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-john-frankenheimers-seconds
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Here's another: Glenn Kenny on Rock Hudson's talents (using Seconds as springboard).
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:41 (ten years ago) link
yeah, it's one of the links in Fandor, cuz that's what the Fandor blog is.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link
oh i always get them confused dept: john frankenheimer/john schlesinger
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 08:10 (ten years ago) link
haha i used to get them mixed up too.
the two frankenheimer movies i've seen in theaters: dr. moreau and reindeer games. the first i was seeing with my friend and like halfway through he was begging me to let us leave. i stayed all the way through though. reindeer i saw cuz i loved ronin, which, lol
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah, those don't count.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
i should see seconds again
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
i remember so clearly seeing ronin in the theater at the old loews cinema (RIP) in downtown montreal. what a great time that was.
also have vivid memories of seeing rushmore there (and being so excited about it i didnt sleep well the night before) and titanic!
i miss real movie theaters :/
― socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
(sorry, carry on)
how does that article not mention Boris Karloff c'mon now
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
I was wondering why one reborn came out looking like Rock Hudson, and another Murray Hamilton, but in the last scene the surgeon says to Rock "You were my best work."
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
well we can't really see under the hood like the surgeon can wink wink
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
also there's a real-life richness to the fact that the three actors talking about starting anew with a different identity in the Company 'consultation' scenes -- John Randolph, Jeff Corey, Will (crazy gay hippie Grandpa Walton) Geer -- were all blacklistees.
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
love love love Seconds
― joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
The Blu-ray of Seconds is beautiful. The movie is OK to pretty good. Plus: James Wong Howe's cinematography, premises. Minuses: it dawdles.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 September 2014 14:05 (nine years ago) link
Didn't care for Seconds all that much. (First saw it 10 or 15 years ago.) The middle-age ennui in the midst of a nascent counter-culture was sort of interesting--I liked the scene where John Randolph is confronted by how unhappy he is--but as science-fiction it struck me as a distended and lesser Twilight Zone episode, with a couple of hysterical scenes that went on forever. Hudson's writhing in the last scene was scary.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 04:28 (eight years ago) link
From Wiki:
Seconds is also known for its connection to American songwriter Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys, who was strongly affected by the film during sessions for the concept album Smile. After arriving late to the theater, he appeared to be greeted with the onscreen dialogue, "Come in, Mr. Wilson," believing for some time that the film was directly based on his recent traumatic experiences and intellectual pursuits, going so far as to note that "even the beach was in it, a whole thing about the beach."[10][11] Wilson soon after ceased Smile recording sessions for the next several decades. The movie reportedly frightened him so much that it wouldn't be until 1982's E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial that he'd ever visit a movie theater again.[12]
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 March 2016 14:37 (eight years ago) link
The more I read about Brian Wilson the more I think someone should have put a pillow over his face about 1969.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 19 March 2016 14:47 (eight years ago) link
rongness about Seconds all over the place
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 19 March 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link
(xxpost) Interesting! More plausible, actually, than getting secret messages from the White Album.
― clemenza, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link
Morbz otm Seconds is incredible
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 March 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
Watched Seven Days in May prob for first time in 20 years, and my mind was blown by that opening brawl between hawk and dove picketers ON THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE, no CG or cheating, done acc to Frankenheimer commentary w/ guys from DC-area motorcycle clubs bcz there were no stuntmen based there!
JFK was instrumental in gaining access for the filmmakers (WH sidewalk in July '63, release postponed to Feb '64 after Dallas) due to some combo of his admiration for the bestseller 7DiM and the film of Manchurian Candidate:
http://blogs.weta.org/boundarystones/2014/05/13/movie-jfk-wanted-made-didnt-live-see
As for the film, President Fredric March is an idealistic liberal/peacemonger totem in a way that maybe wouldn't fly today... (great performance though, and Kirk Douglas in fine low-key mode, Lancaster as vain and brassy as he has to be).
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 April 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
I should see that, thx for the reminder
― Οὖτις, Monday, 24 April 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link
also there are video monitors and technology in scenes meant to suggest that the film is set in the 1970s, so i suppose it's fair to call it science/speculative fiction.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 April 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
one of JF's TV plays was "The Turn of the Screw" with Ingrid Bergman! Can only find it here:
https://archive.org/details/SCV51
There's an article on his TV work in the current Film Comment.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 November 2017 23:11 (six years ago) link
I wrote about Ronin in August when the Blu-Ray restoration came out. And I just watched The Train this weekend.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 26 November 2017 12:25 (six years ago) link
on The Train
http://www.culturecourt.com/F/Nazi/Train.htm
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 August 2019 03:34 (four years ago) link
sounds great! Never heard of this one
― Οὖτις, Friday, 2 August 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
it's hard to see; not available digitally afaik
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 August 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
Available on DVD and blu-ray:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZtshrn1IWk
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 2 August 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link
Twilight Time had an edition of The Train for a while; I bought one.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 2 August 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link
/F/Nazi/Train sounds like a terrible subreddit
― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Friday, 2 August 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
it ran on TCM a few weeks ago
― Brad C., Friday, 2 August 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
That Blu doesn't appear to have been released in Region 1.
There's a book of essays (2011) on JF's work titled A Little Solitaire, and the Train essay points out how often it is strangely reminiscent of Keaton's The General.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 4 August 2019 01:47 (four years ago) link
I saw this movie when I was 12 on a double bill with Butch Cassidy. Chuck Connors' villain is called The Claw.
Realized I haven't seen a ton of John Frankenheimer, but I *have* seen his supremely batty 99 and 44/100% Dead, featuring inspired men's fashion, hairdos and weaponry pic.twitter.com/Gwyre23yVB— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) August 13, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link
I just found out yesterday that Frankenheimer directed the '70s eco-horror punchline Prophecy, famous for its inside-out bear monster. Still not gonna watch it.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 15 August 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
never heard of this TV production
2 Jan 60 Rehearsal. Fifth Column. We have begun without Max Schell. The director Frankenheimer is a typical American - a Jew, a genius type. He swears all the time, he curses and he's always afraid. pic.twitter.com/8YAylaOuCg— Richard Burton (@BurtonDiaries) January 2, 2020
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link
I watched THE TRAIN (1964) for the second time today, maybe having not seen it fully before. It's tremendous. So much to appreciate: the sense of old France; the intricate teamwork of the Resistance, more interesting than a lone hero; the focus on the machinery of railways themselves; the sense of retardation (slowing down the train journey) as narrative action and aim, from the initial marshalling yard on. Even the underlying themes of art's value, national heritage, etc, add interest.
It's sad if more people don't love this film.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 2 February 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link
I'd throw a cautious "search" to Gran(d) Prix, which is luckily more of a racing time capsule than soap opera (just).
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, February 17, 2012
Not a car racing fan at all but found the track sequences generally nesmerizing (James Garner did all his own driving, Yves Montand and Antonio Sabato some). The wives and girlfriends scenes do indeed run from OK (Francoise Hardy!) to awful.
So it all depends how you weight the racing half. I do, heavily. Won 3 tech Oscars.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
― the pinefox, Sunday, February 2, 2020 3:36 PM
I've loved it ever since I caught the last moments on cable TV nearly 20 years ago and immediately rushed to find out what film it was. Luckily it rewards re-viewings in spades.
― Millsner, Saturday, 22 August 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link