Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
(Aimless innocently opens ILE New Answers, sees the names David Brooks, Thomas Friedman and Ross Douthat, starts sobbing like a frightened child)
Make it stop!
― Aimless, Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
backwards!
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
strong campaign by douthat down the stretch but he couldn't close the gap.
― balls, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.tnr.com/book/review/bad-religion-ross-douthat
― balls, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link
we could've been less sexist and thrown Maureen Dowd in the mix.
― a big fat fucking fat guy in a barrel what could be better? (Eisbaer), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah she's awful too
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
hah that book review authoritatively calls bullshit on douthat
"ROSS DOUTHAT’S ANALYSIS of religion in America is more sophisticated than the analysis of, say, Rick Santorum—but not by much. "
^^excellent lead sentence
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
"My problem with Douthat’s book is not that his opinions differ from my own. My problem is that he does not seem to have any idea what he is talking about."
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
he also got sonned in the nyt
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Sunday, 29 April 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
Charles Pierce:
I refuse to accept the term "curmudgeonly annoyance" from a teenage sex-panic victim with D'Artagnan starter-kit facial hair."
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ross-douthat-post-election-14752276
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not a big charles pierce fan
― goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
it's okay to be a mild Charles Pierce fan
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
i'm from minnesota...
― goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
oh so that's a football reference right
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
It's a nice response to an NYT idiot
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
ha no i mean "not a big fan" = "i want to play around in your blood"
― goole, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a huge Charles Pierce fan because he writes pieces like that.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
++
cf. Krugman’s response.
― Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 19 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
what's supposed to be wrong with charles pierce
― j., Monday, 19 November 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
I like Krugman's response a lot.
― the max in the high castle (kingfish), Monday, 19 November 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― iatee, Monday, 19 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://observer.com/2014/02/the-tyranny-and-lethargy-of-the-times-editorial-page/#ixzz2sSv69gIu
One current Times staffer told The Observer, “Tom Friedman is an embarrassment. I mean there are multiple blogs and Tumblrs and Twitter feeds that exist solely to make fun of his sort of blowhardy bullshit.” (Gawker has been particularly hard on Mr. Friedman, with Hamilton Nolan memorably skewering him in a column entitled “Tom Friedman Travels the World to Find Incredibly Uninteresting Platitudes,” as a “mustachioed soothsaying simpleton”; another column was titled “Tom Friedman Does Not Know What’s Happening Here,” and the @firetomfriedman Twitter account has more than 1,800 followers.)Another Times reporter brought up Mr. Friedman, unsolicited, toward the end of a conversation that was generally positive about the editorial page: “I never got a note from Andy or anything like that. But I will say, regarding Friedman, there’s the sense that he’s on cruise control now that he’s his own brand. And no one is saying, ‘Hey, did you see the latest Friedman column?’ in the way they’ll talk about ‘Hey, Gail [Collins] was really funny today.’”
Another Times reporter brought up Mr. Friedman, unsolicited, toward the end of a conversation that was generally positive about the editorial page: “I never got a note from Andy or anything like that. But I will say, regarding Friedman, there’s the sense that he’s on cruise control now that he’s his own brand. And no one is saying, ‘Hey, did you see the latest Friedman column?’ in the way they’ll talk about ‘Hey, Gail [Collins] was really funny today.’”
― Mordy , Friday, 7 February 2014 01:36 (ten years ago) link
times reporting staff otm. editorial is so so bad.
― Mordy , Friday, 7 February 2014 01:50 (ten years ago) link
whatever you may think of the NYT editorial page -- I read this article a few days ago -- the WaPo page deserves reporting to the fucking Hague.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 01:54 (ten years ago) link
Editorial page has been a piece of shit for my entire lifetime.
― Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:16 (ten years ago) link
Ever since the internet I've kind of scratched my head at why these particular individuals, of all people, get paid so much money to opine about stuff every week
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:17 (ten years ago) link
you don't get why someone might prefer to read paul krugman vs some random dude w/ a tumblr?
― balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:19 (ten years ago) link
that's not fair. ppl do like krugman. obv much more embarrassing is friedman + brooks + dowd etc
― Mordy , Friday, 7 February 2014 03:21 (ten years ago) link
Paul Krugman is the one exception. I don't get what's special about most of the rest of their regular columnists though, like special enough to warrant once a week for years on end.
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:21 (ten years ago) link
I love being able to avoid Krugman, too.
― Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link
Friedman is embarrassing, but Brooks and that insufferable prig Douthat still worse
― condo associations are people my friend (will), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:24 (ten years ago) link
friedman and brooks regularly churn out bestsellers, ppl do like them. dowd won a pulitzer and is still (and once was very) taken seriously by a demographic that's very attractive to advertisers. it's not a mystery how these ppl have jobs. it might be a disgrace but it's no mystery.
― balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:25 (ten years ago) link
and yet so easy to avoid them entirely. Makes me happy.
― Pale Smiley Face (dandydonweiner), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:28 (ten years ago) link
George H.W. Bush used to love reading Mo!
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:33 (ten years ago) link
xp but i wonder if they'd be bestseller writers without the vestigial name recognition of being times columnists
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:34 (ten years ago) link
douthat (esp at the time they hired him) is a 'reasonable conservative', the type the times has always thought good for their brand the way fox news used to have alan colmes. brooks is the quintessential 'reasonable conservative', to get any more reasonable you'd need aaron sorkin. he's useless as a window into current conservative thought or current conservative politics but he allows the times liberal readers to tell themselves they're exposing themselves to opposing viewpoints, to a range of opinions, that they're not like some fox news watcher. plus he indulges in the kind of dumb social pseudoscience and ted talk worthy ideas that malcolm gladwell and a good half dozen ilxors truck in. kristol was a bigger hack than either (truly a feat), but more useful. you could read him and get some idea of 'here's what these morons think', there's an element of this w/ douthat and evangelicals but he's not nearly as unmitigated a hack and hence not as useful, w/ brooks the only thing to be gleaned is 'here's what this moron thinks'.
― balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:35 (ten years ago) link
brooks and friedman were both bestselling authors before they landed on the times editorial page
― balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:37 (ten years ago) link
gail collins on why she hired brooks in 03 - “I was looking for the kind of conservative writer that wouldn’t make our readers shriek and throw the paper out the window,” says Collins. “He was perfect.”
― balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 03:41 (ten years ago) link
now only NPR's Robert Siegel can be in a room without gates covering the window.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:42 (ten years ago) link
kristol was a bigger hack than either (truly a feat), but more useful. you could read him and get some idea of 'here's what these morons think',
^ yup
― condo associations are people my friend (will), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:44 (ten years ago) link
a role played on cable news by "Morning Joe"
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 03:57 (ten years ago) link
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ABC_bill_kristol_this_week_jt_130818_16x9_608.jpg
rare to find two generations of finks but Irving and Bill were, god bless'em.
morning joe is 'reasonable conservative' plus beltway politico type crap right? i watch live with kelly and michael myself. sean hannity is the one to listen to if you want to know what these fuckers think today, rush limbaugh is the one to listen to if you want to know what these fuckers will think tomorrow, george noory is the one to listen to if you want to know what these fuckers will think twenty years from now.
― balls, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
Barack Obama is who you listen to when these morons get it.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 February 2014 04:12 (ten years ago) link
plus he indulges in the kind of dumb social pseudoscience and ted talk worthy ideas that malcolm gladwell and a good half dozen ilxors truck in.
― balls, Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:35 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
name names
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:27 (ten years ago) link
\o
― 龜, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:34 (ten years ago) link
Surely it's more than 6. At least 8, maybe 9
― 龜, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:36 (ten years ago) link
a bakers half dozen
― lag∞n, Friday, 7 February 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link