'The Limey'

saw this last night, loved it. no dedicated thread (tho lots of discussion in various soderbergh threads). Seems like the kind of movie ilx likes. Discuss.

the Guzman-Stamp partnership is my favorite in any Soderbergh film ("Blimey!" "If you can afford a house like this, you have a house like this"). Slightly overrated by the anti-Erin Brokovich crowd.

guzman steals every scene

Who you gonna butcher?

i liked this well enough, but there were a some stylistic elements that kinda pulled me out of the story -- specifically how the mostly expository conversations jump back & forth between different settings & times. it gave a meandering, unfocused feel that i think detracted from the plot-driven urgency in what's otherwise a hard-boiled revenge film noir.

Yes. And I didn't experience pangs of nostalgia when Soderbergh showed glimpses of Fonda and Stamp's glorious youths.

I liked Lesley Ann Warren's laconic performance.

also i think i might have preferred not to be reminded of how poorly joe dalessandro has aged

The DVD has one of the great commentary tracks of all time. Soderbergh and the writer, Lem Dobbs, sound like they're about to come to blows as Dobbs keeps accusing Soderbergh of ruining his script. He also neatly points out every shot and scene he didn't write.

I've never really decided about the ending

need to rewatch, possibly my fave Soderbergh. That Fonda speech deflating the enormity of the '60s is super.

It's wittily framed: Fonda checking out his teeth, brushing his expensive hair behind the ears.

only seen this movie once but i remember liking it. excellent usage of the byrds' "it happens each day" iirc

I haven't seen anything like Stamp's contortions and straightening up (like a Terminator). Also: the only man onscreen who's ever flatteringly worn black jeans.

and "The Seeker," way more than effin' American Beauty

xp

yeah! i think i saw both of those movies right at the same time and was wondering why that song was suddenly ubiquitous.
fonda is kind of amazing in the limey.

Forgot about the level of wit, esp Barry Newman's shotgun toter and Nicky Katt as the idiot hitman. "Nobody gives a shit about you, not even God."

when Soderbergh showed glimpses of Fonda and Stamp's glorious youths.

hmmm? no Fonda.

aka bits of ken loach's poor cow

yeah i love nicky katt in this

this is my favorite soderbergh movie, probably.

love this movie so much

yeah i love nicky katt in this

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was just wondering what happened to this dude.

this and out of sight tied for fave sods.

Easily my favorite Soderbergh. In general I don't like his stuff, but this is amazing.

I had no idea who Katt was til I saw early Linklaters in his cv.

was just wondering what happened to this dude.

this and out of sight tied for fave sods.

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he was in the dark knight as comic relief

which one?

Nicky Katt should play Chris Cornell in the Soundgarden biopic.

RIP Peter Fonda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G-BNvZvz8I

Tell ‘em I’m FUCKING COMING

I love that bit at Valentine's wherein Newman sends these heavies out to take care of Stamp on the deck. Instead of following those guys, we stay in the office, where moments later we see in the background through a window Stamp easily dispatching the guys over the railing and down to severe injuries and/or death.

OK, not quite as I remembered...still awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPgl1DyIn3U

sorry to see Stamp didnt come over for this... is he well?

https://www.filmlinc.org/daily/photos-steven-soderbergh-cast-crew-celebrate-20-years-of-the-limey/

My students watched in class as part of the genre part of my film class last October -- they enjoyed it!

I believe I saw this once (maybe twice), when it was first released, and 'tell them I'm FUCKING COMING!' is permabranded on my brain. Indelible.

I like how Stamp sometimes only uses half of the rhyming slang, so anyone who doesn't already know it has no clue what word might rhyme and he has to explain it a few times, filling in the missing word.

“Who you gonna butcher?”

Fascinating and hilarious;

https://vimeo.com/414248587

I like how Stamp sometimes only uses half of the rhyming slang, so anyone who doesn't already know it has no clue what word might rhyme and he has to explain it a few times, filling in the missing word.

That exactly how everyone does rhyming slang. That's how it works.

Yeah. Also though RAG was in the UK, guess not.

Thought not though

lmao at the bitch ass screenwriter

He is in the UK but RAG is one its less earthbound inhabitants.

Lol, okay.

I see the screenwriter’s point but side with Soderbergh on this.

True, I'm not on the street much. But I've generally heard people using the whole rhyme rather than just part of it. Apples and pears, jack and jill etc.

In this film it was butcher's hook = look but I can't remember the other one.

I thought the back and forth editing worked quite well.

A clip of Stamp saying "I'm fucking coming" is what got me watching this.

True, I'm not on the street much. But I've generally heard people using the whole rhyme rather than just part of it. Apples and pears, jack and jill etc.

You've actually heard someone use 'apples and pears'? That seems unlikely! But, yes, only part of the rhyme is generally used.

Nobody at all says “butchers hook”, they say “butchers” and it’s understood

Stamp simply says "butcher's". Also "tea leaves."

Right, like everyone does, as Tom said

So people just say apples for stairs and jack for hill?

No

"Tea leaves" seems to be the exception in that it actually rhymes, not sure if there is another part.

I doubt anyone says 'apples and pears', I've only ever heard that used as a joke version of cockernee rhyming slang. Not sure I've heard of 'jack and jill' for hill ever?

Nobody really uses those phrases any more, but a lot of the ones that are still in semi common usage are shortened. Nobody ever says “Barnet fair”, they say Barnet

(xxp) 'Tea' wouldn't really work, it's too short.

In Jane Busmann's Once In A Lifetime book about Acid House she makes mention of how the oldskool cockney rhyming slang and new drug-speak made for a nice mixture in the late 80s, especially when you'd overhear dealers and such. The one bit she quotes has stayed with me for 20 years
"I'll do biscuits for a cockle, and Archie Moore on the capsules.. "

Soderbergh was obv fond of this gag cause he reused it in oceans 11 when the terrible don cheadle “cockney” character would be like “cor blimey were in Barney now” (everyone stares) “...Barney Rubble” (everyone stares) “...trouble!!”

Has this thread mentioned Barry Newman's fixer character yet?

Oh yeah, Morbius quoted him upthread.

Also some discussion here: Talking Even More Smack In SF

My dad (born London 1928) used to say "up the apple and pears".

As a joke no doubt.

I mean, that's always the expression that is used as a sort of parodic example of rhyming slang. It probably hasn't been used in earnest since the Edwardian era.

I guess any Cockney rhyming slang he used would have been "in quotes" in Canada in the 1970s.

Well, yes.

Soderbergh was obv fond of this gag cause he reused it in oceans 11 when the terrible don cheadle “cockney” character would be like “cor blimey were in Barney now” (everyone stares) “...Barney Rubble” (everyone stares) “...trouble!!”

What do you expect from a septic?

Hard for us to know what is current usage, sorry

Peter Fonda is impressively demonic-looking in this, like his face is about to peel back and reveal a grinning skull at any moment. Kind of fits with how paper-thin almost everything in the movie is, as the screenwriter points out.

this movie is a vibe. it doesn't need to have a lot going on.

Otm. Good description of Peter Fonda’s death’s head look though.

This is on Amazon Prime until the end of December. Can’t watch it too many times.

Feel somewhat similar although haven’t actually watched it that many times. Maybe it will persist on Tubi TV.

I’ve watched it a ton, but not for a very long time. Looking forward to a revisit!

Outstanding film.